Re: [FairfieldLife] TV series review: The Knick

2014-10-22 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Just in case folks here went looking for "The Knick" on HBO it's on 
Cinemax instead in the US.  Cinemax is also known as Skinemax. :-D


On 10/21/2014 12:16 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


On 10/21/2014 11:46 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I watched the first episode of Steven Soderberg's new TV series "The 
Knick" a few weeks ago, realized immediately its depth, and Put It 
The Fuck Away Until I Had Time To Binge Watch The Whole Series At 
Once. I have only in the last few days been able to binge watch the 
whole series. I think it's one of the best things on television.


Soderberg did a kind of sideways shuffle into television with this 
series, coming as it does on the heels of his public announcement 
that he was done with making films, forever. Well, TV must not count 
as film, because he appears to have been Pretty Fuckin' Busy making 
this series. He wrote most of the scripts, directed all 10 episodes, 
and IMO basically created a weird kind of masterpiece that I suspect 
in the future will be favorably compared to "Deadwood" as being one 
of the best TV series ever created.


OK, for you in countries in which you'll have to pay HBO prices to 
see this and who resent that, it's kinda worth it. Say it costs you 
ten bucks. Just being able to watch Soderberg's cinematography when 
recreating 1900s New York would be worth ten bucks.


Oh it is far more than $10 or even $20.  You have to have a cable or 
satellite subscription and you can just ask for HBO only.  So you not 
only have to have the broadcast channels but usually one tier of the 
cable networks (FX, AMC, etc).  So you can easily be paying $80 a 
month in programming before they will let you have HBO. If you are 
lucky or try to quit your provider they MAY offer HBO (or Showtime or 
Starz) for free for several months.  Of course this is just a little 
fee finagling.  Believe me, HBO still gets their bucks.  And then 
there are the additional fees these comapanies charge like rentals for 
the DVR, etc.


The thing is the WRONG PEOPLE run the telecoms.  It's like they came 
straight off a carnival midway.  And we wonder why people pirate shows?


One solution is to find a friend or relative who has HBO and ask for 
their HBO GO app password.  Lots of people do this and HBO knows this 
and currently doesn't care.  In fact they are going to offer HBO next 
year via online service without the need for a cable or satellite 
subscription.  I don't expect it will be that reasonably priced (has 
been hinted at $16 a month).


There's some good stuff of TV and of course a lot of terrible stuff 
(which has always been the case).  Some of us cable cutters don't 
really like to get strung along by series and have taken to mainly 
watching movies which require far less time investment.  It's all 
"bread and circuses" anyway.








Re: [FairfieldLife] TV series review: The Knick

2014-10-21 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 10/21/2014 11:46 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I watched the first episode of Steven Soderberg's new TV series "The 
Knick" a few weeks ago, realized immediately its depth, and Put It The 
Fuck Away Until I Had Time To Binge Watch The Whole Series At Once. I 
have only in the last few days been able to binge watch the whole 
series. I think it's one of the best things on television.


Soderberg did a kind of sideways shuffle into television with this 
series, coming as it does on the heels of his public announcement that 
he was done with making films, forever. Well, TV must not count as 
film, because he appears to have been Pretty Fuckin' Busy making this 
series. He wrote most of the scripts, directed all 10 episodes, and 
IMO basically created a weird kind of masterpiece that I suspect in 
the future will be favorably compared to "Deadwood" as being one of 
the best TV series ever created.


OK, for you in countries in which you'll have to pay HBO prices to see 
this and who resent that, it's kinda worth it. Say it costs you ten 
bucks. Just being able to watch Soderberg's cinematography when 
recreating 1900s New York would be worth ten bucks.


Oh it is far more than $10 or even $20.  You have to have a cable or 
satellite subscription and you can just ask for HBO only.  So you not 
only have to have the broadcast channels but usually one tier of the 
cable networks (FX, AMC, etc).  So you can easily be paying $80 a month 
in programming before they will let you have HBO.  If you are lucky or 
try to quit your provider they MAY offer HBO (or Showtime or Starz) for 
free for several months.  Of course this is just a little fee finagling. 
Believe me, HBO still gets their bucks.  And then there are the 
additional fees these comapanies charge like rentals for the DVR, etc.


The thing is the WRONG PEOPLE run the telecoms.  It's like they came 
straight off a carnival midway.  And we wonder why people pirate shows?


One solution is to find a friend or relative who has HBO and ask for 
their HBO GO app password.  Lots of people do this and HBO knows this 
and currently doesn't care.  In fact they are going to offer HBO next 
year via online service without the need for a cable or satellite 
subscription.  I don't expect it will be that reasonably priced (has 
been hinted at $16 a month).


There's some good stuff of TV and of course a lot of terrible stuff 
(which has always been the case).  Some of us cable cutters don't really 
like to get strung along by series and have taken to mainly watching 
movies which require far less time investment.  It's all "bread and 
circuses" anyway.





[FairfieldLife] TV series review: The Knick

2014-10-21 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I watched the first episode of Steven Soderberg's new TV series "The Knick" a 
few weeks ago, realized immediately its depth, and Put It The Fuck Away Until I 
Had Time To Binge Watch The Whole Series At Once. I have only in the last few 
days been able to binge watch the whole series. I think it's one of the best 
things on television. 

Soderberg did a kind of sideways shuffle into television with this series, 
coming as it does on the heels of his public announcement that he was done with 
making films, forever. Well, TV must not count as film, because he appears to 
have been Pretty Fuckin' Busy making this series. He wrote most of the scripts, 
directed all 10 episodes, and IMO basically created a weird kind of masterpiece 
that I suspect in the future will be favorably compared to "Deadwood" as being 
one of the best TV series ever created. 

OK, for you in countries in which you'll have to pay HBO prices to see this and 
who resent that, it's kinda worth it. Say it costs you ten bucks. Just being 
able to watch Soderberg's cinematography when recreating 1900s New York would 
be worth ten bucks. 

Besides, if you are familiar with his work, you've got Clive Owen. There are 
few more commanding faces of the modern screen. From "King Arthur" to "Sin 
City" to "Inside Man" to "Children Of Men" to "Hemingway and Gellhorn," Clive 
has never been less than interesting. He's interesting here, too, as Dr. John 
W. Thackery, head of surgery at a great New York hospital. It's just that it's 
the Knickerbocker hospital, and at the turn of the century, so the medicine 
being practiced is not exactly what we would today consider "state of the art."

But is WAS so considered back then. And therein lies the magic of this series. 
Thackery is a visionary, a seeker of perfection within the realm of medicine, 
driven to create new surgical methods with which to better save lives. He's 
also a total cocaine and opium junkie, fuels he needs to keep up the furious 
pace of his live-fast-die-young-leave-a-lot-of-scientific-papers-behind-you 
lifestyle. 

The "medicine of the times" is all up onscreen, and at times it makes you want 
to avert your eyes. But you can't, because of the magic of Soderberg's 
cinematography. 

The plot dynamic of this series is very much character-based. Thackery, 
ego-driven, cocaine-driven, but brilliant, is forced to hire an equally 
talented surgeon pushed on him by the hospital's primary donors. He's black. 
This does not sit well with Dr. Thackery, or with anyone else in the hospital. 
This black doctor, played wonderfully by André Holland, walks into such a 
poisonous environment *anyway* and pulls it off. 

Don't look for flawless heroes in "The Knick," any more than you would have 
looked for them in "Deadwood." But if you're interested in getting to know some 
real CHARACTERS, this could be what you're looking for as your next 
binge-watch. Expect to see this series all over the nominations for Golden 
Globe and Emmy awards. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08V4RHGuGqE