There is no guarantee that anybody gains freedom, or enlightenment, from
anything they do. However, a purification of consciousness needs to take place,
to at least entertain the possibility. It is not a matter of enlightenment
having been here all along. Rather, it is culturing the ability, wit
emptybill:
> Recently the term "enlightenment" became a silly
> Neo-Hindu neologism (i.e. post-Vvekananda) and
> Neo-Buddhist synonym for Japanese Zen "kensho"
> or "satori", particularly by euro-american
> buddhist writers.
>
OH C'MON!!! REALLY?! Stop this nonsense trying to
mislead the TM
Yes. There is no experience to compare, so that's not going to help. There are
no words to describe, so that's not it, there's...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 wrote:
> >
> > It is the Goal of Li
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 wrote:
>
> It is the Goal of Life.
>
>
> "necessary"
That was a vaguely rhetorical question I asked, but in terms of pursuing a
goal, moksha has a rather peculiar resolution compared to other kinds of goal
seeki
It is the Goal of Life.
"necessary"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
wrote:
>
> I found this series of exchanges very informative. I wonder how many here
> ever wonder whether moksha, satori, awakening, 'enlightenment', was ever
> re
I found this series of exchanges very informative. I wonder how many here ever
wonder whether moksha, satori, awakening, 'enlightenment', was ever really
necessary in the first place. All roads were always Rome from the beginning.
Why do we make such a big deal out of it? The payoff is tautologi
Yes, "all paths lead to Rome". The *establishment* of Silence in activity, is
really the key symptom for starting any inquiry about the endpoint of various
forms of meditation.
Whatever it is we seek to become intimate with, be it a deity, or life itself,
that object doesn't care how we achiev
Different groups claim "sahaja" for themselves. It is hard to tell which group
is doing what when the term "sahaja yoga" or "sahaja meditation" is used.
http://www.amaye.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/med-connectivity-EEG-tomog.pdf
Reduced functional connectivity between cortical sources in â£ve
Not everyone hops right off the bat. And while hopping may seem special to
people who aren't hopping, and may seem special to some who are, I've never
found it to be anything more than fun, with a side-helping of hopeful
expectation about spiritual growth.
People DID notice radical changes in m
I don't know about expensive. Last I heard, the Advanced Techniques cost the
same as the basic TM technique, and I haven't heard of any discount offered for
financial hardship.
Most people have the wrong idea about Advanced Techniques anyway, I think. They
are said to actually slow down the pro
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>
> Well my problem was that having been a TM teacher and I think you were
> too, I *never* heard the term "TM Style Enlightenment". That's
> something Lawson made up and we know Lawson was *not* a TM teacher. And
> I think he made it up
Well, thing is, is "TM-style enlightenment" the same as enlightenment defined
by some other tradition, or not?
There are plenty of physiological states that can lead to teh same general
description. The fact that two different states can be described the same way
make them the same in some myst
Re "Advanced Techniques are not required to learn the TM-Sidhi
Programme": trying to remember where I read about the insistence on
advanced techniques first . . .
I've heard about people - including TM teachers - who took the TM-Sidhi
programme - but weren't actually able to hop. It must really mak
On 07/18/2013 03:33 PM, emptybill wrote:
> Hey Bari2 -
>
> moksha/mukti, from the root muc means "to set free or release from
> bondage" and thus the English word "liberation" is accurate.
> As you pointed out, the translation of moksha as "enlightenment"
> is inaccurate. (See note below)*
Most ot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita" wrote:
>
> I thought you had to do a couple of (expensive) advanced techniques
> before they'd let you into the hopping room to learn sidhas. Am I wrong
> about that?
1) Advanced Techniques are not required to learn the TM Sidhi Programme.
2) I
I thought you had to do a couple of (expensive) advanced techniques
before they'd let you into the hopping room to learn sidhas. Am I wrong
about that? [And the SCI basic course also.]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
>
> Hi, No, I was not a TM teacher. When I reache
Hi, No, I was not a TM teacher. When I reached the point of going on TTC I was
disenchanted with the org, so it didn't happen. I worked for the TMO three
different times for about three years, total - did the sids also, but no
advanced techniques, or any of the stuff from the last 30 years.
Yea
Hey Bari2 -
moksha/mukti, from the root muc means "to set free or release from
bondage" and thus the English word "liberation" is accurate.
As you pointed out, the translation of moksha as "enlightenment"
is inaccurate. (See note below)*
Bari2:
In fact I would submit there are TM'ers who are in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>
> Well my problem was that having been a TM teacher and I
> think you were too, I *never* heard the term "TM Style
> Enlightenment". That's something Lawson made up and we
> know Lawson was *not* a TM teacher. And I think he made
> it up to
Well my problem was that having been a TM teacher and I think you were
too, I *never* heard the term "TM Style Enlightenment". That's
something Lawson made up and we know Lawson was *not* a TM teacher. And
I think he made it up to support his argument. Lawson, please don't do
that. You're s
if you are the example we can discount the TM is a reliable way to clean up the
mind
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Ok, but it is incorrect to refer to those two different expressions of the
physiology, as two different types of enlightenment.
Once liberation is achieved, it is exactly the same, no matter what the means.
The eternal freedom achieved through the practice of TM, is identical to that
achieved
I meant "enlightenment" as defined by the physiological changes brought about
by the long-term practice of TM as opposed to "enlightenment" defined by the
physiological changes brought about by the long-term practice of other
techniques, such as mindfulness.
There's several fundamental differen
I think spare means TM-style enlightenment, because Maharishi was the first to
symptomize the increasing maturity of the nervous system, leading to greater
and greater freedom. He attempted to demystify it.
So yeah, liberation is liberation, though it helps to keep the relative stages
in mind,
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