Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife [1 Attachment]

2014-08-05 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/5/2014 12:15 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


LOL - Hilarious! Especially that this photo-shopped flying guru was 
Barry's Master and Teacher for so many years! What a hoot! Yeah, 
Cult-Buster Barry at the ready!




Apparently Barry altered this photo to make it look like Lenz was 
levitating over water. Which brings up the question - why is it the 
guilty True Believers like Barry, always scream the loudest?




Hey, MJ, what say you about your favorite TM basher on here, and the 
ridiculous fraud that he followed and revered, as an incarnation of 
Vishnu, no less, for years and years?? Are you sure it bolsters your 
street cred? You may want to think about your slavish and thoughtless 
support of this former cult addict.


My theory is that Barry is still under mind-control or in a 
trance-induction state and he has been programmed to act as a /false 
flag planter/ in order to keep the conversation going so he can post 
more propaganda about his cult leader, Lenz. While most of he TMers on 
FFL have been practicing plain TM for years and minding their own 
business, the TB is busy trying to infiltrate newsgroup with other 
informants because he realizes that nobody cares anymore about his 
failed spiritual trip. Maybe he just feels better when he has someone to 
talk to - about his old dead teacher. Barry  was supposed to be Lenz's 
successor, but he sucked so bad at teaching spirituality, that the other 
Rama guys went over to the /Adi Da Samraj /cult. Go figure.


Adi Da Samraj
/The Adi Da Samraj - Enlightend Master/





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On 8/4/2014 6:57 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... 
mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Lawson, it's really difficult to believe you're as unintelligent
as you come across sometimes. *ONLY* a cultist could *possibly*
believe that Tony Nader is King of something, anything.

The billion bucks was definitely tracked as income and assets of
the TMO. However, the same people who did the tracking admit that
no one knows where the money is now. It was redirected from other
countries to Maharishi's relatives, a black hole into which it has
disappeared, probably never to be seen again. If that's your idea
of a kingdom, I wish you well with it.

When it comes to silly, very little on planet Earth could possibly
top the silliness of someone who actually believes that Tony Nader
is a King who could pass along his kingdom to his progeny.


Zen Master Rama levitating over water

/Zen Master Rama levitating over water/


You're simply not sane if you believe that, Lawson.


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You guys are fond of quoting newspaper articles claiming teh TM 
organization is worth billions.


That's a pretty hefty kingdom, if it really is worth that much, and 
whoever controls the crown, controls whatever the asserts are wroth.



As an aside, anyone ever wonder at how silly people have to be to 
entertain so many contradictory ways of looking at things?



L




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Lawson, you're a hoot. You really do believe that there could possibly 
be succession issues with regard to a kingdom that doesn't exist. 
How sweet and brainwashed of you.


I always wondered for who's benefit the King was for, turns out it's 
Lawson. Go figure.


Arise Sir English!

I often wonder how well the TMO would do if it just sold meditation 
rather than a pre-packaged kingdom with all bases covered from teabags 
to divination and invincible homes. Maybe they wouldn't alienate 
absolutely all but the most feverishly needy. Maybe it would be a big 
success or maybe it would sink without trace in a crowded market 
place. I don't suppose we'll ever know...


For that matter, it's pretty brainwashed and unrealistic of you to 
believe that the TMO could *last long enough* to need someone to 
replace Tony Nader...



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Um

King is generally a hereditary position and in fact, I recall that 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife [1 Attachment]

2014-08-04 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/4/2014 6:57 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Lawson, it's really difficult to believe you're as unintelligent as 
you come across sometimes. *ONLY* a cultist could *possibly* believe 
that Tony Nader is King of something, anything.


The billion bucks was definitely tracked as income and assets of the 
TMO. However, the same people who did the tracking admit that no one 
knows where the money is now. It was redirected from other countries 
to Maharishi's relatives, a black hole into which it has disappeared, 
probably never to be seen again. If that's your idea of a kingdom, I 
wish you well with it.


When it comes to silly, very little on planet Earth could possibly top 
the silliness of someone who actually believes that Tony Nader is a 
King who could pass along his kingdom to his progeny.


Zen Master Rama levitating over water

/Zen Master Rama levitating over water/



You're simply not sane if you believe that, Lawson.


*From:* lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] 
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*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 1:27 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife

You guys are fond of quoting newspaper articles claiming teh TM 
organization is worth billions.


That's a pretty hefty kingdom, if it really is worth that much, and 
whoever controls the crown, controls whatever the asserts are wroth.



As an aside, anyone ever wonder at how silly people have to be to 
entertain so many contradictory ways of looking at things?



L




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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

Lawson, you're a hoot. You really do believe that there could possibly 
be succession issues with regard to a kingdom that doesn't exist. 
How sweet and brainwashed of you.


I always wondered for who's benefit the King was for, turns out it's 
Lawson. Go figure.


Arise Sir English!

I often wonder how well the TMO would do if it just sold meditation 
rather than a pre-packaged kingdom with all bases covered from teabags 
to divination and invincible homes. Maybe they wouldn't alienate 
absolutely all but the most feverishly needy. Maybe it would be a big 
success or maybe it would sink without trace in a crowded market 
place. I don't suppose we'll ever know...


For that matter, it's pretty brainwashed and unrealistic of you to 
believe that the TMO could *last long enough* to need someone to 
replace Tony Nader...



*From:* LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 3:49 AMre
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife

Um

King is generally a hereditary position and in fact, I recall that 
Maharishi emphasized that when he talked about Tony abu Nader.


In fact, for a very long time,. I was wondering how the heck King Tony 
was going to have kids if he was totally celibate.


And it turns out he wasn't.

Problem solved.


Though, of course, his daughters might not qualify to be king in the 
male-dominated TM organization, and might not want to be ruler of the 
Global Country of World Peace even if one or the other DID qualify.


I rather suspect that Maharishi had some alternate way of selecting 
King Tony's successor if he only had girls and/or none of his 
offspring were deemed suitable heirs to the throne.


Maharishi, more than anyone else, would have some sense about how 
unclear succession issues can bring about huge fragmentation in an 
organization such as the TMO, and given how meticulously he planned 
everything else, I would be greatly surprised if he hadn't planned for 
that eventuality as well.



L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

Just to follow up, in case there there the possibility of a follow-up 
implicit in this question, I have never met either Tony Nader nor his 
wife. Both were long after my time in the TMO. I know nothing about 
either of them than stuff that's been discussed here or on a Usenet 
forum called alt.meditation.transcendental or (in the case of Da King) 
official TM forums and press releases. If you stumbled on my name as a 
budding critic of the royal couple, I admit that if you searched the 
Net you might find parodies or criticisms I've written in the past 
about them.


But I really did that because it was such a SETUP, man. I mean, the 
*literal* king of TM, presented for decades as celibate and the very 
personification on Earth of bramacharya, turning out to have had a 
wife and kids for all these years? That's pretty classic, and if I 
poked fun, I hope you can understand that I really had no choice. The 
SETUP was just too compelling. :-)


That said, I don't really have any strong feelings about the Naders, 
Mr. and Mrs. For all I know he