RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??

2013-11-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Yea, M was also teaching laya yoga all along the way.  People just did not 
appreciate it.  It was where he was going again in the end with his Ved and 
Physiology teachings.  He was getting to the heart of a matter in that.  Laya's 
very powerful stuff as finishing the whole subtle nervous system of 
spirituality.  It is where so much of the mature meditating TM community has 
gone on to in experience.  Was always there in seed form..  for instance, 
http://minet.org/www.trancenet.net/secrets/night.shtml 
http://minet.org/www.trancenet.net/secrets/night.shtml
 
 
 I feel real sorry for the quitters along the way.
 -Buck in the Dome
 
 
 Of course that is Buck talking. Alice A. Bailey however says it more nicely, 
 
 
 “The teachings are intended to be practical; they will emphasize the training 
and discipline of the disciple, and, scattered throughout will be found those 
hints and esoteric suggestion which, when followed, will lead the aspirant on 
to experiment and to experience of truth. Those who are not true aspirants will 
fail to recognize the hints and thus will be preserved from danger and 
premature 
 experience.” 
 
 
 Maharishi as a sat guru was in fact careful to be simple in dealing with 
people generally and bringing this all to a larger world. What he did is 
remarkable. 
 -Buck 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:

 Richard don't need no stinking jyotishi to tell him.  He resonates it.  
 -Buck 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Richard, it makes sense to me that Saraswati is your ishta devata but I am 
curious about how you know that. If it's not too private. Did a jyotishi tell 
you or did you have an experience? BTW, wonderful knowledge in this post, thank 
you. Saraswati was obviously by your side when you wrote it (-:
 

 
 
 On Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:07 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
wrote:
 
   
 It's a reference to the 'Night Technique', once taught by MMY, otherwise known 
as 'Laya Yoga' or 'Kundalini Yoga' which is a synthesis of Hatha Yoga, Bhakti 
Yoga, and Raja Yoga, first mentioned apparently by Swami Sivananda Saraswati 
back in 1935 in his book 'Kundalini Yoga'. 
 
 Swami Sivananda Radha wrote that Kundalini yoga is the yoga of awareness, it 
aims to cultivate the creative spiritual potential of a human to uphold 
values, speak truth, and focus on the compassion and consciousness needed to 
serve and heal others. 
 
 So, Laya Yoga is similar to MMYs Night Technique, apparently no longer taught, 
but which was one of the main components of MMYs series of 'advanced 
techniques'. Dream yoga is very popular in Tibetan Buddhism (see my recent post 
to this forum concerning lucid dreaming).
 
 The purport of the passage is:
 
 By resting your bija at the navel chakra or at the heart chakra, the subtle 
currents from your istadevata will permeate your entire being. For example, my 
istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning. So, by resting the bija 
portion of her name, that is, 'sring', at the navel chakra, my intelligence 
will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when I awake in 
the morning I will feel refreshed and full of knowledge. It's that simple!
 
 Most TMers only repeat the bija portion of their mantra when they are 
meditating. However, according to Swami Sivananda Radha, a bija mantra may be 
repeated during the first portions of sleep. For example, when I practice MMYs 
secret Night Technique I often fall asleep with the bija portion of my mantra 
in mind as I fall into asleep. When practicing the Night Technique Satyanand 
advised me to be aware of the area just above my abdomen, (heart chakra) and to 
put your attention there and let it rest. 
 
 My take on this technique is to be aware of my bija mantra at the heart chakra 
while in a sitting position and to gently fall into sleep as I assume the 
corpse pose at the end of the day. So, all you have to do is be aware of the 
chakra of the heart, start the bija just like any other thought, then just 
babysit your bija for a few minutes, right on at your heart area. You just set 
it, and then forget it. This technique was confirmed to me by Vaj in a posting 
to FFL in 2005. It sure beats counting sheep in order to fall asleep!
 
 Notes: 
 
 Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being 
sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra 
(naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1st and 2nd 
chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to 
activate the golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal 
glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, this technique was denigrated 
by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were the nicknames of 
the Istadevatas. Go figure.
 
 Works cited:
 
 'Kundalini Yoga for the West'
 by Swami Sivananda Radha
 (1979; 2nd ed. 1996) 
 pp. 13, 15
 
 'Kundalini Yoga'
 

RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??

2013-11-25 Thread punditster
Well, I guess we could look it up:

Note to newbies: Willytex, aka pundit, punditster, punditmoderator, etc., 
spouts a great deal of absolute nonsense.  Nothing he says about TM (or about 
much of anything else, but especially* TM) is to be taken seriously. Just for 
example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods 
have perfectly good names of their own.

Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming?
Author: Judy Stein
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
http://tinyurl.com/9gxse
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, 
or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever 
nicknames means in this context).
 

 I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly 
how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw.
 

 (snip)
  Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being 
  sparked during yogic breathing 
  when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point 
  it initially drops down to the 
  1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers 
  of the brain to activate the 
  golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and 
  penetrate the 7 chakras. 
  However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post 
  denying that MMY bijas were 
  the nicknames of  the Istadevatas. Go figure.
 


 





RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??

2013-11-25 Thread authfriend
Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, 
or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever 
nicknames means in this context).
 

 I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly 
how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw.
 

 (snip)
  Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being 
  sparked during yogic breathing 
  when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point 
  it initially drops down to the 
  1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers 
  of the brain to activate the 
  golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and 
  penetrate the 7 chakras. 
  However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post 
  denying that MMY bijas were 
  the nicknames of  the Istadevatas. Go figure. 
 

Richard wrote:
 
 Well, I guess we could look it up:

Note to newbies: Willytex, aka pundit, punditster, punditmoderator, etc., 
spouts a great deal of absolute nonsense.  Nothing he says about TM (or about 
much of anything else, but especially* TM) is to be taken seriously. Just for 
example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods 
have perfectly good names of their own.

Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming?
Author: Judy Stein
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
http://tinyurl.com/9gxse
  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, 
or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever 
nicknames means in this context).
 

 I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly 
how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw.
 

 (snip)
  Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being 
  sparked during yogic breathing 
  when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point 
  it initially drops down to the 
  1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers 
  of the brain to activate the 
  golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and 
  penetrate the 7 chakras. 
  However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post 
  denying that MMY bijas were 
  the nicknames of  the Istadevatas. Go figure.