RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor
what was infamous about Wally "Courvoisier"? From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:32 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor Pretty much snowed there eight months out of the year. Saw the Northern Lights several times. It had just turned into a men's facility, when I arrived in early 1978, with the "ladies" moved to South Fallsburg. The toilets were always broken, and there were rats that could kick your ass, in the kitchen. And several huge raccoons near the dumpsters. I was on staff in the kitchen, until I cut my finger pretty badly trying to catch a rack of glasses that slipped off the dishwashing conveyor. Worked for the A of E Press, running the Stahl T-66 folder, folding and cutting the Age of Enlightenment magazine, then driving the completed palettes of pages to a place in Rochester, NY, to get stapled, trimmed, labeled, and mailed. Drove a box truck into NYC a few times on Movement business - The Bowery, and The Bronx. A slight contrast to the quiet of the Manor. Rick Archer was one of the governing troika, while I was at El Manor, along with Tim somebody, and the infamous Wally "Courvoisier". I was twenty four years old and had a good time - good staff camaraderie. Five dollars a week spending money - woo-hoo. It was rustic enough that none of "the management" could get too intense about anything. The whole place was ready to literally cave in, anyway, and Maharishi wouldn't visit. There were a couple of Cadillac limos in the garage, waiting for him, though, should he ever show. I did manage to cage driving duty, in one, to take some big wig to La Guardia, where we were meeting some minor dignitary from the Bimini Islands or somewhere, who had decided to start TM. The limo handled really well - enough power, and heavy as a tank, so no sliding on corners. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Ahhh, Livingston Manor - I did my first sidhis bloc there, Messrs Big Bopper Bevan and John Cowhig were officiating as TM Sidhi Administrators. Bevan was not fat then, in fact looked like a surfer, narrow waist, broad shoulders. It was January, cold as hell, they had just had a major snow and ice storm that knocked out their electricity, destroyed one of their well pumps, lots of the pipes in the place froze, staff had to put 50 gallon drums of water in the halls and we each had plastic buckets to dip into the drums to haul water to flush our toilets. Food was quite good as I recall - they even had a Southern boy on cooking staff who one day served up grits for breakfast. All the Yankees had no idea what they were or what to do with them. Only complaint I had about it was he used white grits instead of yaller grits. The guy who was running the place, I can't remember his name but I saw his picture on some TM stuff recently - I think he's a raja or works somehow for the Global Country of World Peace. Anyway he got really tick off at us - we had to wait for our first sutras for longer than we were supposed to due to technical incompetence on Bevan and John's part. When we finally got them, they were of course through video/audio tape. After one of the girls on the course was bitching about us not actually seeing marshy and said so in "public" - in the dining hall and folks heard - so we got chewed out big time for not honoring our agreement to not say nothing about our instruction. That was also the place I saw the "Be a Superman, Be a Sidha-man!" poster that I would love to have one of now. Good times. From: "doctordumbass@..." To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:23 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor About three years, total. In rural settings; Livingston Manor, NY and twice near Waverly, MO. I enjoyed it for awhile. My last stint, though, was to evaluate whether or not I would go on to TTC. Thankfully, I made the right choice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > >I am sure I have cognitive overload or dissonance or something from all the >years I did TM, I missed you working for the Movement - when and where did >work for them? And did you enjoy it? > > > > > > > > From: "doctordumbass@..." >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:47 PM >Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor > > > > >And you too, MJ, are a fine fella. I never actually saw, or met, Maharishi, >and stopped working for his org in 1982. I did watch a LOT of tapes and read >his Gita translation several times. Probably wen
RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor
Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor
Ahhh, Livingston Manor - I did my first sidhis bloc there, Messrs Big Bopper Bevan and John Cowhig were officiating as TM Sidhi Administrators. Bevan was not fat then, in fact looked like a surfer, narrow waist, broad shoulders. It was January, cold as hell, they had just had a major snow and ice storm that knocked out their electricity, destroyed one of their well pumps, lots of the pipes in the place froze, staff had to put 50 gallon drums of water in the halls and we each had plastic buckets to dip into the drums to haul water to flush our toilets. Food was quite good as I recall - they even had a Southern boy on cooking staff who one day served up grits for breakfast. All the Yankees had no idea what they were or what to do with them. Only complaint I had about it was he used white grits instead of yaller grits. The guy who was running the place, I can't remember his name but I saw his picture on some TM stuff recently - I think he's a raja or works somehow for the Global Country of World Peace. Anyway he got really tick off at us - we had to wait for our first sutras for longer than we were supposed to due to technical incompetence on Bevan and John's part. When we finally got them, they were of course through video/audio tape. After one of the girls on the course was bitching about us not actually seeing marshy and said so in "public" - in the dining hall and folks heard - so we got chewed out big time for not honoring our agreement to not say nothing about our instruction. That was also the place I saw the "Be a Superman, Be a Sidha-man!" poster that I would love to have one of now. Good times. From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:23 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor About three years, total. In rural settings; Livingston Manor, NY and twice near Waverly, MO. I enjoyed it for awhile. My last stint, though, was to evaluate whether or not I would go on to TTC. Thankfully, I made the right choice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I am sure I have cognitive overload or dissonance or something from all the years I did TM, I missed you working for the Movement - when and where did work for them? And did you enjoy it? From: "doctordumbass@..." To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor And you too, MJ, are a fine fella. I never actually saw, or met, Maharishi, and stopped working for his org in 1982. I did watch a LOT of tapes and read his Gita translation several times. Probably went on twenty Residence Courses. Practiced the TMSP from 1980 to 1993-ish. Did TM from 1975, on. Other than that, it has just been plain hard work, discrimination, and focus. My rosy colored glasses fell off at some point along the way, and I don't wear contacts, either.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > >I suggest you read the interview and then make comments - as much as I like >Doc, he is still wearing rosy colored glasses where maree-chee and company are >concerned. But he's a fine feller anyway. > > > > > > > > From: "awoelflebater@..." >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:42 AM >Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor > > > > > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: >> >> >>Jesus, you people! Let's shoot the messenger - Kapor realized what was being >>offered was not what was advertised. He put all his hopes and dreams into >>Marshy and his bogus teachings and went on straighten himself out and become >>a mover and shaker in computer and internet technology. I take my hat off to >>him. No reason to revile him and his experience just because he tells it like >>it is. >> >> >>I don't revile anyone for leaving the Movement or who became disillusioned or >>even bitter about their experience there. I was just making a general >>statement about naive expectations when it comes to those who expect the >>world for very little effort. I didn't even read the interview, I was >>addressing what the Doc was saying. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: "awoelflebater@..." >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:36 PM >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>--- In FairfieldLife