[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've had similar experiences as what you're describing, but > that seemed to be shakti and therefore relative. Excellent distinction. I find that those who have not been around a lot of shakti are often flashed out by it, and a tad overwhelmed. There's a big difference between shakti-induced consciousness and real higher states of consciousness IMO. > In what I was describing there was no overtly energetic > component or shakti, just a shift and tensions in awareness > relaxed like dew disappearing in the presence of the sun. > It's only when you shifted in your awareness that you > realized. Excellent again. One only notices the lack of tension when it's gone, not the "leaving" or any sense of "process." > In some cases one can comprehend an entire teaching in this > way with no intervening "process"--the knowledge was always > already present in the natural (non-dual) state which is > our true condition: the "tension" of the unresolved question > is simply gone. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On May 18, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 18, 2006, at 2:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > "markmeredith2002" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I guess it's possible people can get fried being > > > close to certain > > > > > "highly evolved" people, but my experience in > > > recent yrs is that > > > > > being around high shakti produces the opposite > > > of fried, crazy, > > > > > rigid, immature and unevolved. > > > > > > > > Exactly the opposite. Greater clarity and > > > flexibility. > > > > > > And spontaneous resolution of many patterns. It's > > > not unusual to go > > > into a state of Unity when in their presence. It's > > > called "entering > > > the mandala of the teacher" and is unmistakable. > > > > > > Long standing questions can simply resolve on their > > > own. No matter > > > how you search your mind the "tension" that was the > > > question will > > > have dissolved and you will have the answer as part > > > of your natural > > > state. > > > > I've had both experiences around SSRS. Years ago when > > I first experienced him giving personal darshan my > > body had a difficult time being around him as would > > radiate this powerful darshan that would make me get > > terrible headaches. Now it's smooth as silk even when > > he's radiating like a supernova. Just some > > purification of some subtle bodies needed! > > > I've had similar experiences as what you're describing, but that > seemed to be shakti and therefore relative. In what I was describing > there was no overtly energetic component or shakti, just a shift and > tensions in awareness relaxed like dew disappearing in the presence > of the sun. It's only when you shifted in your awareness that you > realized. In some cases one can comprehend an entire teaching in this > way with no intervening "process"--the knowledge was always already > present in the natural (non-dual) state which is our true condition: > the "tension" of the unresolved question is simply gone. > I think you posted an SSRS video clip on your website not long ago, and he was talking about a river which flows for thousands of years, without getting tired, and the sun which keeps on shining for years and years, without getting tired. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook
On May 18, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Peter wrote: > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On May 18, 2006, at 2:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "markmeredith2002" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I guess it's possible people can get fried being > > close to certain > > > > "highly evolved" people, but my experience in > > recent yrs is that > > > > being around high shakti produces the opposite > > of fried, crazy, > > > > rigid, immature and unevolved. > > > > > > Exactly the opposite. Greater clarity and > > flexibility. > > > > And spontaneous resolution of many patterns. It's > > not unusual to go > > into a state of Unity when in their presence. It's > > called "entering > > the mandala of the teacher" and is unmistakable. > > > > Long standing questions can simply resolve on their > > own. No matter > > how you search your mind the "tension" that was the > > question will > > have dissolved and you will have the answer as part > > of your natural > > state. > > I've had both experiences around SSRS. Years ago when > I first experienced him giving personal darshan my > body had a difficult time being around him as would > radiate this powerful darshan that would make me get > terrible headaches. Now it's smooth as silk even when > he's radiating like a supernova. Just some > purification of some subtle bodies needed! I've had similar experiences as what you're describing, but that seemed to be shakti and therefore relative. In what I was describing there was no overtly energetic component or shakti, just a shift and tensions in awareness relaxed like dew disappearing in the presence of the sun. It's only when you shifted in your awareness that you realized. In some cases one can comprehend an entire teaching in this way with no intervening "process"--the knowledge was always already present in the natural (non-dual) state which is our true condition: the "tension" of the unresolved question is simply gone. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook
--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 18, 2006, at 2:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "markmeredith2002" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I guess it's possible people can get fried being > close to certain > > > "highly evolved" people, but my experience in > recent yrs is that > > > being around high shakti produces the opposite > of fried, crazy, > > > rigid, immature and unevolved. > > > > Exactly the opposite. Greater clarity and > flexibility. > > And spontaneous resolution of many patterns. It's > not unusual to go > into a state of Unity when in their presence. It's > called "entering > the mandala of the teacher" and is unmistakable. > > Long standing questions can simply resolve on their > own. No matter > how you search your mind the "tension" that was the > question will > have dissolved and you will have the answer as part > of your natural > state. I've had both experiences around SSRS. Years ago when I first experienced him giving personal darshan my body had a difficult time being around him as would radiate this powerful darshan that would make me get terrible headaches. Now it's smooth as silk even when he's radiating like a supernova. Just some purification of some subtle bodies needed! > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly > when new email arrives > http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook
On May 18, 2006, at 2:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain > > "highly evolved" people, but my experience in recent yrs is that > > being around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, > > rigid, immature and unevolved. > > Exactly the opposite. Greater clarity and flexibility. And spontaneous resolution of many patterns. It's not unusual to go into a state of Unity when in their presence. It's called "entering the mandala of the teacher" and is unmistakable. Long standing questions can simply resolve on their own. No matter how you search your mind the "tension" that was the question will have dissolved and you will have the answer as part of your natural state. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain > "highly evolved" people, but my experience in recent yrs is that > being around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, > rigid, immature and unevolved. Exactly the opposite. Greater clarity and flexibility. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook
on 5/18/06 10:56 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > [...] >> I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain >> "highly evolved" people, but my experience in recent yrs is that being >> around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, rigid, >> immature and unevolved. >> > > So ARE the people surrounding MMY fried, crazy, rigid, immature and unevolved? Yes, no, and everywhere in between. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" wrote: > [...] > > I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain > > "highly evolved" people, but my experience in recent yrs is that being > > around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, rigid, > > immature and unevolved. > > > > So ARE the people surrounding MMY fried, crazy, rigid, immature and unevolved? > Good question. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain > "highly evolved" people, but my experience in recent yrs is that being > around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, rigid, > immature and unevolved. > So ARE the people surrounding MMY fried, crazy, rigid, immature and unevolved? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > on 5/15/06 12:14 PM, stadspark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I am new here... > > > > > > > > > > Howmany governors and/or sidhas are actually on here? > > > > > > > > Hard to say. There are many avid lurkers. Also, there are many > > who > > > sign up > > > > and then forget about it and never read the stuff. > > > > > > > > > > Howmany live in Faifield? > > > > > > > > Quite a few, but most active posters are out of town. > > > > > > > > > > Do people feel comfortable discussing some of the minet.org > > > documnents...? > > > > > > > > Sure, but few here have a TM-Ex orientation. Most of us don't see > > > the world > > > > in black and white, and just want to know the truth about things, > > > which is > > > > always mixed. At least that's my attitude. > > > > > > > Hi -- am an occasional lurker (except for one post) and find Rick's > > > answer to sum up my position pretty well. Am, or was, a governor, > > > having since explored many other "paths". Thankful for my > > experience > > > with TM, and thankful for many others since. Feel free to discuss > > > anything about TM, etc., just don't take the time to add my input > > here. > > > > > > I enjoy the open discussion about various viewpoints and topics > > > although often get lost in the FFL posts as there are a few people > > > here who seem to know each other well and have a long history with > > > each other, and so the references are often hard to understand if > > you > > > don't have that history. > > > > > > There has been an ongoing process of keeping what is useful to me > > from > > > MMY & TM & TMO and letting go of what is not and in the past few > > mos. > > > FFL has played some sort of role in that. Although there is much I > > > cannot embrace about the TMO (which seems to have something akin > > to a > > > fundamentalist religion attitude of this is the best, right, only > > way > > > and if you deviate from that you are doomed) > > > > Yep, the TMO's corporate culture could stand some improvement. > > > > Fortunately or otherwise, the members of that organization are held > > almost magnetically to Maharishi, through their desire to gain what > > he has; his 'Maharishi-ness'. > > > > The contrast there, between the Self realization of Maharishi and > > the Self realization of the members of the TMO is great enough that > > they find themselves rigidly adhering to whatever he says. His > > personality, Indian culture, reflection of his Master, and dharma in > > the warrior caste play a part as well. > > > > But the main thing is the gulf that separates their consciousness > > from his. Much like we control the actions of a child when it is > > very little, and less so when it begins to understand the ways of > > the world. Similarly, they are rigidly controlled now, and hence > > rigidly control themselves and those around them. Once they grow up > > some, if the TMO still exists, this should lessen. There are > > probably pockets of greater spiritual maturity within the TMO, but > > that is pure speculation on my part. > > > > Maharishi, through Guru Dev, is a very, very powerful man, whose > > goal is to bring enlightenment to the world. Not an easy task, > > though he has enlarged his consciousness through the guidance and > > grace of Guru Dev to be able to do so. Those around him are so > > deeply fried as a result, they also need the rigidity of action and > > absolute adherence to rules to avoid going crazy. > > > > I hope that they are enjoying themselves along the way! > > I used to believe the above narrative but now think it's just a > rationalization to keep the dream alive. I've never been much good at writing while dreaming. Too many non sequiturs -- > the people close to MMY have been close to him for over 30 yrs now and > doing his techniques for longer, but their consciousness is still so > unevolved and immature? Its a contrast thing compared to the consciousness he is manifesting, so Yes, correct. And these 50-something adults still require > rigidity to avoid going crazy? Apparently. Since when do truly powerful leaders > surround themselves solely with immature yes-men? I don't understand the question. His mission is unique, no basis for comparison. Magnetic attraction? > > I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain > "highly evolved" people, but my experience in recent yrs is that being > around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, rigid, > immature and unevolved. Clear channel to Shiva. What more can I say?
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > on 5/15/06 12:14 PM, stadspark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I am new here... > > > > > > > > Howmany governors and/or sidhas are actually on here? > > > > > > Hard to say. There are many avid lurkers. Also, there are many > who > > sign up > > > and then forget about it and never read the stuff. > > > > > > > > Howmany live in Faifield? > > > > > > Quite a few, but most active posters are out of town. > > > > > > > > Do people feel comfortable discussing some of the minet.org > > documnents...? > > > > > > Sure, but few here have a TM-Ex orientation. Most of us don't see > > the world > > > in black and white, and just want to know the truth about things, > > which is > > > always mixed. At least that's my attitude. > > > > > Hi -- am an occasional lurker (except for one post) and find Rick's > > answer to sum up my position pretty well. Am, or was, a governor, > > having since explored many other "paths". Thankful for my > experience > > with TM, and thankful for many others since. Feel free to discuss > > anything about TM, etc., just don't take the time to add my input > here. > > > > I enjoy the open discussion about various viewpoints and topics > > although often get lost in the FFL posts as there are a few people > > here who seem to know each other well and have a long history with > > each other, and so the references are often hard to understand if > you > > don't have that history. > > > > There has been an ongoing process of keeping what is useful to me > from > > MMY & TM & TMO and letting go of what is not and in the past few > mos. > > FFL has played some sort of role in that. Although there is much I > > cannot embrace about the TMO (which seems to have something akin > to a > > fundamentalist religion attitude of this is the best, right, only > way > > and if you deviate from that you are doomed) > > Yep, the TMO's corporate culture could stand some improvement. > > Fortunately or otherwise, the members of that organization are held > almost magnetically to Maharishi, through their desire to gain what > he has; his 'Maharishi-ness'. > > The contrast there, between the Self realization of Maharishi and > the Self realization of the members of the TMO is great enough that > they find themselves rigidly adhering to whatever he says. His > personality, Indian culture, reflection of his Master, and dharma in > the warrior caste play a part as well. > > But the main thing is the gulf that separates their consciousness > from his. Much like we control the actions of a child when it is > very little, and less so when it begins to understand the ways of > the world. Similarly, they are rigidly controlled now, and hence > rigidly control themselves and those around them. Once they grow up > some, if the TMO still exists, this should lessen. There are > probably pockets of greater spiritual maturity within the TMO, but > that is pure speculation on my part. > > Maharishi, through Guru Dev, is a very, very powerful man, whose > goal is to bring enlightenment to the world. Not an easy task, > though he has enlarged his consciousness through the guidance and > grace of Guru Dev to be able to do so. Those around him are so > deeply fried as a result, they also need the rigidity of action and > absolute adherence to rules to avoid going crazy. > > I hope that they are enjoying themselves along the way! I used to believe the above narrative but now think it's just a rationalization to keep the dream alive. Too many non sequiturs -- the people close to MMY have been close to him for over 30 yrs now and doing his techniques for longer, but their consciousness is still so unevolved and immature? And these 50-something adults still require rigidity to avoid going crazy? Since when do truly powerful leaders surround themselves solely with immature yes-men? I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain "highly evolved" people, but my experience in recent yrs is that being around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, rigid, immature and unevolved. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 5/15/06 12:14 PM, stadspark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am new here... > > > > > > Howmany governors and/or sidhas are actually on here? > > > > Hard to say. There are many avid lurkers. Also, there are many who > sign up > > and then forget about it and never read the stuff. > > > > > > Howmany live in Faifield? > > > > Quite a few, but most active posters are out of town. > > > > > > Do people feel comfortable discussing some of the minet.org > documnents...? > > > > Sure, but few here have a TM-Ex orientation. Most of us don't see > the world > > in black and white, and just want to know the truth about things, > which is > > always mixed. At least that's my attitude. > > > Hi -- am an occasional lurker (except for one post) and find Rick's > answer to sum up my position pretty well. Am, or was, a governor, > having since explored many other "paths". Thankful for my experience > with TM, and thankful for many others since. Feel free to discuss > anything about TM, etc., just don't take the time to add my input here. > > I enjoy the open discussion about various viewpoints and topics > although often get lost in the FFL posts as there are a few people > here who seem to know each other well and have a long history with > each other, and so the references are often hard to understand if you > don't have that history. > > There has been an ongoing process of keeping what is useful to me from > MMY & TM & TMO and letting go of what is not and in the past few mos. > FFL has played some sort of role in that. Although there is much I > cannot embrace about the TMO (which seems to have something akin to a > fundamentalist religion attitude of this is the best, right, only way > and if you deviate from that you are doomed) Yep, the TMO's corporate culture could stand some improvement. Fortunately or otherwise, the members of that organization are held almost magnetically to Maharishi, through their desire to gain what he has; his 'Maharishi-ness'. The contrast there, between the Self realization of Maharishi and the Self realization of the members of the TMO is great enough that they find themselves rigidly adhering to whatever he says. His personality, Indian culture, reflection of his Master, and dharma in the warrior caste play a part as well. But the main thing is the gulf that separates their consciousness from his. Much like we control the actions of a child when it is very little, and less so when it begins to understand the ways of the world. Similarly, they are rigidly controlled now, and hence rigidly control themselves and those around them. Once they grow up some, if the TMO still exists, this should lessen. There are probably pockets of greater spiritual maturity within the TMO, but that is pure speculation on my part. Maharishi, through Guru Dev, is a very, very powerful man, whose goal is to bring enlightenment to the world. Not an easy task, though he has enlarged his consciousness through the guidance and grace of Guru Dev to be able to do so. Those around him are so deeply fried as a result, they also need the rigidity of action and absolute adherence to rules to avoid going crazy. I hope that they are enjoying themselves along the way! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.