[FairfieldLife] Hello Fairfield

2006-08-11 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
Hi folks, I have just joined and looking to learn more about the whole 
Maharishi thing from the folks who actually live in Fairfield.
I just broke up with a woman who has been a hard core meditator for 25 
yrs. I think she's been  totally brain washed by this movement and the 
Maharishi. 

I calmly said to her the other day I thought he (Maharishi) was a liar 
a cheat and a fruad. I thought she was going to kill me. I have never 
witnessed such anger rage or hatred in my life.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Hello Fairfield

2006-08-11 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Hello Fairfield





on 8/11/06 9:30 PM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi folks, I have just joined and looking to learn more about the whole 
Maharishi thing from the folks who actually live in Fairfield.
I just broke up with a woman who has been a hard core meditator for 25 
yrs. I think she's been totally brain washed by this movement and the 
Maharishi. 

How long had you been with her? Care to enumerate some of the symptoms of her brainwashing?

I calmly said to her the other day I thought he (Maharishi) was a liar 
a cheat and a fruad. I thought she was going to kill me. I have never 
witnessed such anger rage or hatred in my life.

Are you sure thats the only reason she was angry?

In my opinion, if you want to know the truth of the matter, or move in that general direction, you have to strive for a nuanced perspective. If you say hes a liar a cheat and a fraud or hes the greatest saint who ever walked the earth youre pitching your tent on an extreme end of the spectrum. As Ive said here often (but you wouldnt know that because you just joined) the natural world, including people, is a complex mix of various and often paradoxical qualities and tendencies. It is rare if not impossible to find a person or thing that is predominantly characterized by a single quality or set of like qualities. Even examples such as Hitler or Mother Theresa support this contention. So yes, Maharishi is a liar. He has also spoken a lot of truth. Hes a cheat, but he has generously given far more than the average person. Hes a fraud, but judging from the benefits many have derived from his teachings, hes the real deal. And also, of course, Im all those things too. And you are. We all possess all qualities in various measures and degrees of manifestation. Youll find a lot in the files section and in the archives (Doug Hamilton posts an index periodically) that is quite damning. But most of Maharishis staunchest critics acknowledge that their lives have benefited tremendously from meditation, and that they had wonderful adventures and experiences with Maharishi and in his service. Maharishi is an extraordinary man who has had a profound influence on many people and on the culture at large. He is also, in some respects, an ordinary man who has carefully concealed his ordinariness in order to portray and preserve a public image. Much has been revealed in recent years, and more will be revealed after he dies. But I hope and predict that history will view him with a balanced perspective, as it has Gandhi, Thomas Jefferson, and other great men who had their fair share of human foibles.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Hello Fairfield

2006-08-11 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Aug 11, 2006, at 9:30 PM, Bill (William)Simmons wrote:

 Hi folks, I have just joined and looking to learn more about the whole
 Maharishi thing from the folks who actually live in Fairfield.
 I just broke up with a woman who has been a hard core meditator for 25
 yrs. I think she's been  totally brain washed by this movement and the
 Maharishi.

 I calmly said to her the other day I thought he (Maharishi) was a liar
 a cheat and a fruad. I thought she was going to kill me. I have never
 witnessed such anger rage or hatred in my life.

Hard-core 25-year meditator, and she still had a trifle of an anger 
problem, you say?  Well, just think of what she might have been like 
without the TM--she might really have killed you for saying something 
negative about MMY. :)

Experiences like that are, unfortunately, why most of us are on longer 
part of the movement.  Nutty reactions like that are amongst the things 
that drove us away a long time ago.

BTW, welcome to FF Life.

Sal



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Hello Fairfield

2006-08-11 Thread Sal Sunshine
This is really so true, Rick, and despite my humorous (I think) 
response it's exactly the way I feel as well.  We talk about MMY more 
than anyone else because he's been more important in our lives than 
most other people.

Sal

On Aug 11, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

 So yes, Maharishi is a liar. He has also spoken a lot of truth. He’s a 
 cheat, but he has generously given far more than the average person. 
 He’s a fraud, but judging from the benefits many have derived from his 
 teachings, he’s the real deal. And also, of course, I’m all those 
 things too. And you are. We all possess all qualities in various 
 measures and degrees of manifestation.


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