Re: [FairfieldLife] I Hate 55%off FFL Posts by Three Posters. Give them "time-outs"?

2006-09-21 Thread Bhairitu
Why not get the posts via email (if you are not already) and then put 
them in your killfile (or junk list if you use Thunderbird).  You'll 
never see them again. :)


new.morning wrote:

>Averages are useful, but not refelctive of the core problem, IMO.
>
>Tell someone on a jammed freeway at rush hour that "the roads have
>ample capacity to handle average traffic" you will probably be shot by
>a roadrager.
>
>My premise is that when somone beyond the AMT-three, frankly I think
>you have cut down to reasonable levels (but I include you since you
>part of the original sample), sees pages and pages of
>Spraig/Judy/Shemp posts, they just slap their forehead and go away.
>Massive compulsive, drivel-prone, peak posters drive away thoughtful
>posters.
>
>60% of posts by 4 peaople. Or excluding you, 55% by three AMT people!
>Its quite sick, compulsive and abusive IMO. They are choking, with
>content and tone (Shemp and Judy (at times) per tone) what  was once a
>vibrant, friendly, supportive forum to a 60's encounter group with a
>couple of non-stop loud-mouths.
>
>I am not into enforcement -- far less than you on political and social
>issues than you -- I imagine. I would prefer to see those that are
>sick of 60% peak clogging of FFL to speak up. If 10 people do,
>Sparaig, Judy and Shemp may GET it. I have hope for Judy and Sparaig. 
>
>If several cycles of that doesn't work, I suggest that anyone can pull
>the stats and if someone is above 10% for a one-day or greater period,
>they are given a "time-out" for two weeks. Time-outs work for kids,
>and are hardly abusive. They help inform and provide feedback to
>people to help them "get a grip". For compulsive, rude, or obnoxious
>for whom repeated group consensus to "cool it' don't have an effect,
>then "time-outs" may be worth a try.
>
>I don't prefer the above time-outs. I prefer that 10 people stand up
>and say that they are sick of three people posting 50% or so of posts
>at peak times and ask them to please be become conscious of their
>effect of driving others away.
>
>Or we just start a new group, and don't give them the address. :)
>
>By the way, your stats are off.
>In Sept there have been 2841 posts. 130 by me. 4.5%.   6 a day. 
>
>I like your idea of shooting for an average of 4. Some days, a bit
>more, some days a bit less.
>
>
>
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hey new.morning,
>>
>>I actually agree with you. But let's get more
>>specific here. Since you're the one who wanted 
>>to set "guidelines" and "enforce" them, how 
>>many posts do YOU think I should limit myself 
>>to per day?
>>
>>Should I hold myself to your standard? During 
>>the month of September (so far) you sent an 
>>average of 6.14 posts per day, whereas I rudely 
>>sent an average of 8.7 posts per day. 
>>
>>I will try my best in the future not only to
>>not exceed your average, but to limit myself
>>to less than half that amount, an average of 
>>no more than four posts per day. That is well
>>below the median posting level for the group 
>>as a whole. Would that be satisfactory?
>>
>>If so, now see whether you can get the other 
>>three to do this. During September, their 
>>daily averages were as follows:
>>
>>authfriend -- 17.81 posts per day
>>sparaig -- 18.05 posts per day
>>shempmcgurk -- 12.19 posts per day
>>
>>Good luck.  :-)
>>
>>
>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>for sept 20-21 Approx 30 hours
>>>
>>> posts   total   %   Cum %
>>>sparaig  56  213 26% 26%
>>>Judy 33  213 15% 42%
>>>Shemp24  213 11% 53%
>>>Turq 12  213 6%  59%
>>>
>>>Several weeks ago when I did this spot 24 hour (or 100 post) check,
>>>These four posters were a mere, but still intrusive and approching
>>>abnoxious, 40% of total FFL posts. Now they  are almost 60%. As they
>>>say in the music biz, "Rising with a bullet".
>>>
>>>To other posters beyond these four: Do you really want to see FFL
>>>taken over by this virus? I see full pages of 20-30 posts and they 
>>>are nearlly all Sparaig. Its difficult to even find posts not from 
>>>this clan of obsessives. 
>>>
>>>Anyone else sick of thus choking of FFL? If so, open your window and
>>>shout "I'm not going to take in any longer". Or simple post it.
>>>  
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>



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[FairfieldLife] I Hate 55%off FFL Posts by Three Posters. Give them "time-outs"?

2006-09-21 Thread new . morning
Averages are useful, but not refelctive of the core problem, IMO.

Tell someone on a jammed freeway at rush hour that "the roads have
ample capacity to handle average traffic" you will probably be shot by
a roadrager.

My premise is that when somone beyond the AMT-three, frankly I think
you have cut down to reasonable levels (but I include you since you
part of the original sample), sees pages and pages of
Spraig/Judy/Shemp posts, they just slap their forehead and go away.
Massive compulsive, drivel-prone, peak posters drive away thoughtful
posters.

60% of posts by 4 peaople. Or excluding you, 55% by three AMT people!
Its quite sick, compulsive and abusive IMO. They are choking, with
content and tone (Shemp and Judy (at times) per tone) what  was once a
vibrant, friendly, supportive forum to a 60's encounter group with a
couple of non-stop loud-mouths.

I am not into enforcement -- far less than you on political and social
issues than you -- I imagine. I would prefer to see those that are
sick of 60% peak clogging of FFL to speak up. If 10 people do,
Sparaig, Judy and Shemp may GET it. I have hope for Judy and Sparaig. 

If several cycles of that doesn't work, I suggest that anyone can pull
the stats and if someone is above 10% for a one-day or greater period,
they are given a "time-out" for two weeks. Time-outs work for kids,
and are hardly abusive. They help inform and provide feedback to
people to help them "get a grip". For compulsive, rude, or obnoxious
for whom repeated group consensus to "cool it' don't have an effect,
then "time-outs" may be worth a try.

I don't prefer the above time-outs. I prefer that 10 people stand up
and say that they are sick of three people posting 50% or so of posts
at peak times and ask them to please be become conscious of their
effect of driving others away.

Or we just start a new group, and don't give them the address. :)

By the way, your stats are off.
In Sept there have been 2841 posts. 130 by me.  4.5%.   6 a day. 

I like your idea of shooting for an average of 4. Some days, a bit
more, some days a bit less.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey new.morning,
> 
> I actually agree with you. But let's get more
> specific here. Since you're the one who wanted 
> to set "guidelines" and "enforce" them, how 
> many posts do YOU think I should limit myself 
> to per day?
> 
> Should I hold myself to your standard? During 
> the month of September (so far) you sent an 
> average of 6.14 posts per day, whereas I rudely 
> sent an average of 8.7 posts per day. 
> 
> I will try my best in the future not only to
> not exceed your average, but to limit myself
> to less than half that amount, an average of 
> no more than four posts per day. That is well
> below the median posting level for the group 
> as a whole. Would that be satisfactory?
> 
> If so, now see whether you can get the other 
> three to do this. During September, their 
> daily averages were as follows:
> 
> authfriend -- 17.81 posts per day
> sparaig -- 18.05 posts per day
> shempmcgurk -- 12.19 posts per day
> 
> Good luck.  :-)
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  wrote:
> >
> > for sept 20-21 Approx 30 hours
> > 
> > posts   total   %   Cum %
> > sparaig 56  213 26% 26%
> > Judy33  213 15% 42%
> > Shemp   24  213 11% 53%
> > Turq12  213 6%  59%
> > 
> > Several weeks ago when I did this spot 24 hour (or 100 post) check,
> > These four posters were a mere, but still intrusive and approching
> > abnoxious, 40% of total FFL posts. Now they  are almost 60%. As they
> > say in the music biz, "Rising with a bullet".
> > 
> > To other posters beyond these four: Do you really want to see FFL
> > taken over by this virus? I see full pages of 20-30 posts and they 
> > are nearlly all Sparaig. Its difficult to even find posts not from 
> > this clan of obsessives. 
> > 
> > Anyone else sick of thus choking of FFL? If so, open your window and
> > shout "I'm not going to take in any longer". Or simple post it.
>







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