[FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org-
A former Purusha friend informed me that he knew from first hand experience that a monthly check was being sent to Jerry at least into the early 90's by one of the movements arms. TomT
RE: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org-
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:56 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org- A former Purusha friend informed me that he knew from first hand experience that a monthly check was being sent to Jerry at least into the early 90's by one of the movements arms. Tom That’s nice. MMY did that with at least one of his former girlfriends too (Jennifer). One could see that either as hush money or an expression of appreciation. In Jerry’s case, I would see it as the latter, since Jerry is too loyal to need hushing. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org-
Looking at all the message on Jerry Jarvis I am reminded of the local Peace organization (which I sometimes refer to as the Inertia organization) which mainly consists of a bunch of old fogies wanting to relive the 1960's (now that many are in their 60's). :-D I met Jerry once, a couple weeks after I learned TM. He was on a TV show I worked on. He seemed shocked to have someone come over to him and greet him with a Jai Guru Dev. He must have thought another TM nut. :-) It's too bad he hasn't moved on like many of us and found the good stuff. tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: A former Purusha friend informed me that he knew from first hand experience that a monthly check was being sent to Jerry at least into the early 90's by one of the movements arms. TomT
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org-
In a message dated 8/6/2007 2:39:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've always wondered if Jerry Jarvis was still alive. Is he? How old is he? Looking at all the message on Jerry Jarvis I am reminded of the local Peace organization (which I sometimes refer to as the Inertia organization) which mainly consists of a bunch of old fogies wanting to relive the 1960's (now that many are in their 60's). :-D I met Jerry once, a couple weeks after I learned TM. He was on a TV show I worked on. He seemed shocked to have someone come over to him and greet him with a Jai Guru Dev. He must have thought another TM nut. :-) It's too bad he hasn't moved on like many of us and found the good stuff. tomandcindytraynoratomandcindytraynora A former Purusha friend informed me that he knew from first hand experience that a monthly check was being sent to Jerry at least into the early 90's by one of the movements arms. TomT ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org-
On Aug 6, 2007, at 2:33 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Looking at all the message on Jerry Jarvis I am reminded of the local Peace organization (which I sometimes refer to as the Inertia organization) which mainly consists of a bunch of old fogies wanting to relive the 1960's (now that many are in their 60's). :-D I met Jerry once, a couple weeks after I learned TM. He was on a TV show I worked on. He seemed shocked to have someone come over to him and greet him with a Jai Guru Dev. He must have thought another TM nut. :-) It's too bad he hasn't moved on like many of us and found the good stuff. You know, it's funny, when someone commented that Jerry didn't want to get any news from FFL as he already got his news from the Maharishi channel I couldn't help but think, for such an intelligent, gifted and charismatic man, what a waste.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org-
I've always wondered if Jerry Jarvis was still alive. Is he? How old is he? Is this your question, Lsoma? A character indetifies a line that is being replied to, so it is confusing following what you are saying and what you are replying to. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/6/2007 2:39:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've always wondered if Jerry Jarvis was still alive. Is he? How old is he? Looking at all the message on Jerry Jarvis I am reminded of the local Peace organization (which I sometimes refer to as the Inertia organization) which mainly consists of a bunch of old fogies wanting to relive the 1960's (now that many are in their 60's). :-D I met Jerry once, a couple weeks after I learned TM. He was on a TV show I worked on. He seemed shocked to have someone come over to him and greet him with a Jai Guru Dev. He must have thought another TM nut. :-) It's too bad he hasn't moved on like many of us and found the good stuff. tomandcindytraynoratomandcindytraynora A former Purusha friend informed me that he knew from first hand experience that a monthly check was being sent to Jerry at least into the early 90's by one of the movements arms. TomT ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
[FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org- anything to do with Sidhis ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillyG. Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 10:10 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: need feedback on MMY audios How exciting to be able to talk to Jerry after all of these years, we all loved Jerry...did he get the boot too? :-) Apparently. Some say it was because he pursued the NJ court case against MMY's wishes. Maybe he just needed to get away from the outer guru to find the inner guru. At some point I heard Jerry and Charlie had a meeting and apparently (just rumor) Jerry wanted to divorce the TM movement from its somewhat Religious packaging, puja, etc., OR wanted autonomy for the US branch (wouldn't that have been nice) and Charlie balked and walked away, apparently after that Jerry was persona non grataFWIW. (For what it's worth). Charlie freely hypothesized on many subjects, and we enjoyed Charlie's discourses, but on the topic of Jerry Jarvis and the reasons for Jerry's disassociation from the TM org, I'm uncomfortable creating a default understanding in my memory bank out of the theory presented above - specifically, that Jerry wanted to eliminate the puja from TM instruction, and thus was summarily dismissed. That supposed theory of Charlie's sounds like an organizational face-saving disinformation campaign to cast doubt upon the judgement of a defector that conveniently lessened the impact of the bombshell news of his Jerry's departure, and perhaps inflamed the faithful (who considered a proposal for puja elimination to be a gross violation of the purity of the teaching), and thus inflamed, the faithful more easily digested and thus, and perhaps looked with righteous disfavor toward Jerry Jarvis. Without a direct thorough documented explanation from Jerry Jarvis himself, dated during the era that the defection occured, what more can one say? One might also ponder the effect of the outlandish 'Fly like Superman' PR campaign of the Sidhi program in '77 and '78 had on Jerry's decision. Wasn't Charlie a big front-man for 'fly like Superman' ? Wasn't Jerry reluctant to promote the Sidhis?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org- anything to do with Sidhis ?
Mainstream..what in the world are you talking about? All this nonsesnse about Charlie claiming Jerry wanted to remove the puja, etc. etc. Charlie and Jerry always had underlying conflicts because Charlie was a big lovable spiritual BS'er and Jerry was a little more discriminating in the intellect department. Is this conjecture on your part or what? Did you have your finger on the pulse of the TMO during this time because I certainly did and nothing..absolutely nothing of what you are talking about was ever remotely spoken about by anybody. Rick, did you ever hear of such a thing? --- mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillyG. Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 10:10 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: need feedback on MMY audios How exciting to be able to talk to Jerry after all of these years, we all loved Jerry...did he get the boot too? :-) Apparently. Some say it was because he pursued the NJ court case against MMY's wishes. Maybe he just needed to get away from the outer guru to find the inner guru. At some point I heard Jerry and Charlie had a meeting and apparently (just rumor) Jerry wanted to divorce the TM movement from its somewhat Religious packaging, puja, etc., OR wanted autonomy for the US branch (wouldn't that have been nice) and Charlie balked and walked away, apparently after that Jerry was persona non grataFWIW. (For what it's worth). Charlie freely hypothesized on many subjects, and we enjoyed Charlie's discourses, but on the topic of Jerry Jarvis and the reasons for Jerry's disassociation from the TM org, I'm uncomfortable creating a default understanding in my memory bank out of the theory presented above - specifically, that Jerry wanted to eliminate the puja from TM instruction, and thus was summarily dismissed. That supposed theory of Charlie's sounds like an organizational face-saving disinformation campaign to cast doubt upon the judgement of a defector that conveniently lessened the impact of the bombshell news of his Jerry's departure, and perhaps inflamed the faithful (who considered a proposal for puja elimination to be a gross violation of the purity of the teaching), and thus inflamed, the faithful more easily digested and thus, and perhaps looked with righteous disfavor toward Jerry Jarvis. Without a direct thorough documented explanation from Jerry Jarvis himself, dated during the era that the defection occured, what more can one say? One might also ponder the effect of the outlandish 'Fly like Superman' PR campaign of the Sidhi program in '77 and '78 had on Jerry's decision. Wasn't Charlie a big front-man for 'fly like Superman' ? Wasn't Jerry reluctant to promote the Sidhis? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
RE: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org- anything to do with Sidhis ?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 9:55 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org- anything to do with Sidhis ? Mainstream..what in the world are you talking about? All this nonsesnse about Charlie claiming Jerry wanted to remove the puja, etc. etc. Charlie and Jerry always had underlying conflicts because Charlie was a big lovable spiritual BS'er and Jerry was a little more discriminating in the intellect department. Is this conjecture on your part or what? Did you have your finger on the pulse of the TMO during this time because I certainly did and nothing..absolutely nothing of what you are talking about was ever remotely spoken about by anybody. Rick, did you ever hear of such a thing? Not until it was mentioned here. I wasn’t in close touch with Jerry during his final years in the movement, but I recall hearing that MMY pulled him from the field after the NJ court case (boo lives says MMY was pissed because Jerry paid the lawyers’ fees against his wishes). Then I recall that MMY had Jerry round for a year or two, and the sidhis came out during that period. I remember hearing that Jerry disapproved of the sidhis or the way they were being presented. Thought the whole flying thing was nonsense, or perhaps that it violated the “capture the fort” principle. But all of this is a recollection of rumors I heard 30 years ago, so I don’t know how closely any of it corresponds with what actually happened. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
