[FairfieldLife] November 30th event, a Gov who's going to make up his own mind
Begin forwarded message: -Original Message- From: Michael Speight Sent: Tue, Sep 23, 2014 6:54 am Subject: JH message Friends, Let me make my personal position clear. The Vedic literature, and Maharishi's teaching makes it clear that George's experience is within the realm of possibility as are the six points that are laid out in the 30th November invitation. The question is around probability... and the answer to that is most likely that the probability is limited that this is real, however due to my own considerable experiences over the years of Celestial Perception and other experiences I cannot personally deny anyone their experience, I cannot say that it is wrong, although I do apply careful consideration. My take on it is to wait and hear the message in its entirety then decide its truth and how that may pertain to myself. As you can read for yourself the below note to JH from George there is no mention of anything, no instruction, no desire or otherwise for anything to happen, take place, or be said other then the message. There is no desire to change anything of the structure of the Movement or its function. This is not to say that JH did not have several points in his Op Ed piece worthy of consideration, however his message was just that, an opinion piece, and it should be taken as such. We should all be stable enough in our Practice and Program at this point to do as Maharishi always recommended; refer it to our self and see. It should perhaps be noted that JH had this note from George prior to sending out his message. Both messages are below. I am simply sharing information and not judging anything at this time. One fault I personally have with the Movement as it now stands is its constant managing information and Maharishi's teaching in a limiting way. I have the utmost respect for John and his work within the Movement and do not fault him, his last three paragraphs stand as words to live by. M
Re: [FairfieldLife] November 30th event, a Gov who's going to make up his own mind
If it hasn't been posted here yet and you have access to it, Rick, I'd really love to see the email from George to JH that Michael refers to below. All in all, I found his reply very balanced and appropriate, while retaining a certain ballsy edge that only long-term TMers would catch. I find it reassuring and healthy to hear a long-term TMer say outright that the opinion of a Raja is just that -- only his opinion. From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 7:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] November 30th event, a Gov who's going to make up his own mind Begin forwarded message: -Original Message- From: Michael Speight Sent: Tue, Sep 23, 2014 6:54 am Subject: JH message Friends, Let me make my personal position clear. The Vedic literature, and Maharishi's teaching makes it clear that George's experience is within the realm of possibility as are the six points that are laid out in the 30th November invitation. The question is around probability... and the answer to that is most likely that the probability is limited that this is real, however due to my own considerable experiences over the years of Celestial Perception and other experiences I cannot personally deny anyone their experience, I cannot say that it is wrong, although I do apply careful consideration. My take on it is to wait and hear the message in its entirety then decide its truth and how that may pertain to myself. As you can read for yourself the below note to JH from George there is no mention of anything, no instruction, no desire or otherwise for anything to happen, take place, or be said other then the message. There is no desire to change anything of the structure of the Movement or its function. This is not to say that JH did not have several points in his Op Ed piece worthy of consideration, however his message was just that, an opinion piece, and it should be taken as such. We should all be stable enough in our Practice and Program at this point to do as Maharishi always recommended; refer it to our self and see. It should perhaps be noted that JH had this note from George prior to sending out his message. Both messages are below. I am simply sharing information and not judging anything at this time. One fault I personally have with the Movement as it now stands is its constant managing information and Maharishi's teaching in a limiting way. I have the utmost respect for John and his work within the Movement and do not fault him, his last three paragraphs stand as words to live by. M
Re: [FairfieldLife] November 30th event, a Gov who's going to make up his own mind
What the author of this message fails to realize is that when Hagelin referred to Marshy's instruction to refer it to our self and see, Hagelin was talking about the MOVEMENT LEADERSHIP and the RAJAS - all others should do as the leaders say. From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] November 30th event, a Gov who's going to make up his own mind Begin forwarded message: -Original Message- From: Michael Speight Sent: Tue, Sep 23, 2014 6:54 am Subject: JH message Friends, Let me make my personal position clear. The Vedic literature, and Maharishi's teaching makes it clear that George's experience is within the realm of possibility as are the six points that are laid out in the 30th November invitation. The question is around probability... and the answer to that is most likely that the probability is limited that this is real, however due to my own considerable experiences over the years of Celestial Perception and other experiences I cannot personally deny anyone their experience, I cannot say that it is wrong, although I do apply careful consideration. My take on it is to wait and hear the message in its entirety then decide its truth and how that may pertain to myself. As you can read for yourself the below note to JH from George there is no mention of anything, no instruction, no desire or otherwise for anything to happen, take place, or be said other then the message. There is no desire to change anything of the structure of the Movement or its function. This is not to say that JH did not have several points in his Op Ed piece worthy of consideration, however his message was just that, an opinion piece, and it should be taken as such. We should all be stable enough in our Practice and Program at this point to do as Maharishi always recommended; refer it to our self and see. It should perhaps be noted that JH had this note from George prior to sending out his message. Both messages are below. I am simply sharing information and not judging anything at this time. One fault I personally have with the Movement as it now stands is its constant managing information and Maharishi's teaching in a limiting way. I have the utmost respect for John and his work within the Movement and do not fault him, his last three paragraphs stand as words to live by. M
Re: [FairfieldLife] November 30th event, a Gov who's going to make up his own mind
Better sent out a memo on this Michael. Is the channel clear on this? Or wherever you are getting your info. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : What the author of this message fails to realize is that when Hagelin referred to Marshy's instruction to refer it to our self and see, Hagelin was talking about the MOVEMENT LEADERSHIP and the RAJAS - all others should do as the leaders say. From: 'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] November 30th event, a Gov who's going to make up his own mind Begin forwarded message: -Original Message- From: Michael Speight Sent: Tue, Sep 23, 2014 6:54 am Subject: JH message Friends, Let me make my personal position clear. The Vedic literature, and Maharishi's teaching makes it clear that George's experience is within the realm of possibility as are the six points that are laid out in the 30th November invitation. The question is around probability... and the answer to that is most likely that the probability is limited that this is real, however due to my own considerable experiences over the years of Celestial Perception and other experiences I cannot personally deny anyone their experience, I cannot say that it is wrong, although I do apply careful consideration. My take on it is to wait and hear the message in its entirety then decide its truth and how that may pertain to myself. As you can read for yourself the below note to JH from George there is no mention of anything, no instruction, no desire or otherwise for anything to happen, take place, or be said other then the message. There is no desire to change anything of the structure of the Movement or its function. This is not to say that JH did not have several points in his Op Ed piece worthy of consideration, however his message was just that, an opinion piece, and it should be taken as such. We should all be stable enough in our Practice and Program at this point to do as Maharishi always recommended; refer it to our self and see. It should perhaps be noted that JH had this note from George prior to sending out his message. Both messages are below. I am simply sharing information and not judging anything at this time. One fault I personally have with the Movement as it now stands is its constant managing information and Maharishi's teaching in a limiting way. I have the utmost respect for John and his work within the Movement and do not fault him, his last three paragraphs stand as words to live by. M
Re: [FairfieldLife] November 30th event, a Gov who's going to make up his own mind
On 9/27/2014 4:18 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Better sent out a memo on this Michael. *MEMO* TO: /John Hegelin/ FROM: /The Baker Guy/ SUBJECT: /TMO Leadership//and Rajas/ Is the channel clear on this? /There is something happening here; what it is ain't exactly clear. There's a man with a gun over there. - Stephen Stills/ Or wherever you are getting your info. /Right. We wouldn't want the informants confusing the lurking reporters or the science writers. / ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : What the author of this message fails to realize is that when Hagelin referred to Marshy's instruction to refer it to our self and see, Hagelin was talking about the MOVEMENT LEADERSHIP and the RAJAS - all others should do as the leaders say. *From:* 'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, September 27, 2014 1:46 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] November 30th event, a Gov who's going to make up his own mind Begin forwarded message: /-Original Message-// /From: Michael Speight/ /Sent: Tue, Sep 23, 2014 6:54 am/ /Subject: JH message// /Friends,/ /Let me make my personal position clear. The Vedic literature, and Maharishi's teaching makes it clear that George's experience is within the realm of possibility as are the six points that are laid out in the 30th November invitation. The question is around probability... and the answer to that is most likely that the probability is limited that this is real, however due to my own considerable experiences over the years of Celestial Perception and other experiences I cannot personally deny anyone their experience, I cannot say that it is wrong, although I do apply careful consideration./ /My take on it is to wait and hear the message in its entirety then decide its truth and how that may pertain to myself. As you can read for yourself the below note to JH from George there is no mention of anything, no instruction, no desire or otherwise for anything to happen, take place, or be said other then the message. There is no desire to change anything of the structure of the Movement or its function./ /This is not to say that JH did not have several points in his Op Ed piece worthy of consideration, however his message was just that, an opinion piece, and it should be taken as such. We should all be stable enough in our Practice and Program at this point to do as Maharishi always recommended; refer it to our self and see./ /It should perhaps be noted that JH had this note from George prior to sending out his message. Both messages are below./ /I am simply sharing information and not judging anything at this time. One fault I personally have with the Movement as it now stands is its constant managing information and Maharishi's teaching in a limiting way. I have the utmost respect for John and his work within the Movement and do not fault him, his last three paragraphs stand as words to live by./ /M/