[FairfieldLife] RE: 'Allah' Row in Malaysia

2014-01-20 Thread s3raphita
Re Islam is more tolerant than what is being practiced by some Muslim sects:

 Have you actually read the Koran? Take a look at this conference footage from 
Sam Harris's site. 
 As Harris says:
 The organizers of this conference believe (with good reason) that “extremist” 
views are not rare among Muslims, even in the West. And they consider the 
media’s denial of this fact to be a symptom of… Islamophobia. The serpent of 
obscurantism has finally begun to devour its own tail. Apparently, it is a sign 
of racism to imagine that only a tiny minority of Muslims could actually 
condone the subjugation of women and the murder of apostates. How dare you call 
us “extremists” when we represent so many? We are not extreme. This is Islam. 
They have a point. And it is time for secular liberals and (truly) moderate 
Muslims to stop denying it.

 http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/islam-or-islamophobia2 
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/islam-or-islamophobia2



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Allah' Row in Malaysia

2014-01-20 Thread Bhairitu
No, they're not extremists, they're just fools.  They'll lose in the 
end.  But then again as with any other religion 85% just pay lip service.


On 01/20/2014 07:48 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


Re Islam is more tolerant than what is being practiced by some Muslim 
sects:


Have you actually read the Koran? Take a look at this conference 
footage from Sam Harris's site.


As Harris says:

The organizers of this conference believe (with good reason) that 
“extremist” views are not rare among Muslims, even in the West. And 
they consider the media’s denial of this fact to be a symptom of… 
Islamophobia. The serpent of obscurantism has finally begun to devour 
its own tail. Apparently, it is a sign of racism to imagine that only 
a tiny minority of Muslims could actually condone the subjugation of 
women and the murder of apostates. How dare you call us “extremists” 
when we represent so many? We are not extreme. This is Islam. They 
have a point. And it is time for secular liberals and (truly) moderate 
Muslims to stop denying it.


http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/islam-or-islamophobia2






[FairfieldLife] RE: 'Allah' Row in Malaysia

2014-01-20 Thread jr_esq
S3,
 

 The Old Testament or the Torah has many extremist views as well.  That's why 
fundamentalism from any religion will only lead to violence.  The failure to 
realize this is due to a low level of consciousness which can be attributed to 
the reptilian part of the human brain.  Moses has written in Genesis that the 
fall of Adam and Eve was due to the Snake in the Garden of Eden.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Allah' Row in Malaysia

2014-01-20 Thread jr_esq
Bhairitu,
 

 The Islamists or terrorists are using Islam as a political tool to grab power 
to subjugate the people.  These people are not concerned for the development of 
their people's collective consciousness.  Their motivation is domination to 
keep the people ignorant through violence and fear. IOW, we are witnessing Evil 
at work here.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Allah' Row in Malaysia

2014-01-20 Thread Bhairitu

Yup, fools make good useful idiots. ;-)

On 01/20/2014 10:33 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Bhairitu,


The Islamists or terrorists are using Islam as a political tool to 
grab power to subjugate the people.  These people are not concerned 
for the development of their people's collective consciousness.  Their 
motivation is domination to keep the people ignorant through violence 
and fear. IOW, we are witnessing Evil at work here.







[FairfieldLife] RE: 'Allah' Row in Malaysia

2014-01-19 Thread s3raphita
Re This ruling just shows that these people are still ignorant, in spite of 
their faith.:

 

 Ignorant *because* of their faith. The intolerance of Islam no longer 
surprises anyone. Thank God we've still got Sam Harris to stick it to these 
barbarians now that Christopher Hitchens isn't around.


[FairfieldLife] RE: 'Allah' Row in Malaysia

2014-01-19 Thread jr_esq
S3,
 

 Supposedly, Islam is more tolerant than what is being practiced by some Muslim 
sects.  But there are still many people who have not awakened to the meaning 
of life or reality.  As such, they impose their own will on others by killing 
and oppression, which only reveal the evil that lurks within their hearts.