[FairfieldLife] Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: God bless you Judy. God bless you. It is good of her to define things for us. People interpret things the way they see them, and if that disagrees with her interpretation, it's a LIE. Therefore, she gets -- nay *has* -- to correct them. Also, if people don't find her interpretation interesting enough to argue with her incessantly about it, they're less intelligent than they used to be. 'Seems to me she's got that first one wrong, in that I don't remember her having been appointed as official corrector of ANYTHING, much less other people's interpretations of Robin or anything else said here. As for the second definition, 'seems to me that people figuring out that arguing with her is a waste of their time indicates that they've grown *more* intelligent, not less. And all of this to hide the fact that she's got nothing creative or original to contribute. She's just a tyrannical schoolmarm, correcting other people's papers and hoping one of them will dispute her corrections, so that she can try to lure them into an argument about it. Judy Stein...always an authfriend, never an author. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@ wrote: How's that, Little Stevie? People tell lies, and I correct them, and I'm the mischief maker? I'm not sure you quite thought that one through. And of course, as you know, what Richard quotes isn't at all the sort of trap you were talking about. So it just all falls apart into an incoherent mess, as most of your sallies do these days. It's really too bad. You used to be so much brighter a few years back. Yes, good example Richard. Of course now Judy will coming rushing in, out of breath, to set the record straight. What a little mischief maker she is! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@ wrote: On 1/27/2014 7:34 PM, authfriend@ mailto:authfriend@ wrote: No, Little Stevie, you never observed any little traps. This message itself is a little trap - a trap to get your attention, Steve. Robin is the most famous trappist on the forum (followed closely by Curtis and Barry). My question is, was this the Hindu Robin, the Islamic Robin, or the Catholic Robin writing all these messages? Go figure. Prime example of a message trap: The rudeness, the arrogance, the insulting manner of my approach was to deliver perhaps enough of a shock to make her utter something other than her daily New Age affirmations. - Masked Zebra
[FairfieldLife] Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
You used to be so much brighter too, Barry. You haven't been able to follow a simple conversation for some time now, so when you try to pile on, your comments are incoherent, as here. Among the many things you got wrong this time: The definition in question was Little Stevie's, not mine. Ooopsie! Oh, say, how's your Cathar novel coming? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: God bless you Judy. God bless you. It is good of her to define things for us. People interpret things the way they see them, and if that disagrees with her interpretation, it's a LIE. Therefore, she gets -- nay *has* -- to correct them. Also, if people don't find her interpretation interesting enough to argue with her incessantly about it, they're less intelligent than they used to be. 'Seems to me she's got that first one wrong, in that I don't remember her having been appointed as official corrector of ANYTHING, much less other people's interpretations of Robin or anything else said here. As for the second definition, 'seems to me that people figuring out that arguing with her is a waste of their time indicates that they've grown *more* intelligent, not less. And all of this to hide the fact that she's got nothing creative or original to contribute. She's just a tyrannical schoolmarm, correcting other people's papers and hoping one of them will dispute her corrections, so that she can try to lure them into an argument about it. Judy Stein...always an authfriend, never an author. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@ wrote: How's that, Little Stevie? People tell lies, and I correct them, and I'm the mischief maker? I'm not sure you quite thought that one through. And of course, as you know, what Richard quotes isn't at all the sort of trap you were talking about. So it just all falls apart into an incoherent mess, as most of your sallies do these days. It's really too bad. You used to be so much brighter a few years back. Yes, good example Richard. Of course now Judy will coming rushing in, out of breath, to set the record straight. What a little mischief maker she is! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@ wrote: On 1/27/2014 7:34 PM, authfriend@ mailto:authfriend@ wrote: No, Little Stevie, you never observed any little traps. This message itself is a little trap - a trap to get your attention, Steve. Robin is the most famous trappist on the forum (followed closely by Curtis and Barry). My question is, was this the Hindu Robin, the Islamic Robin, or the Catholic Robin writing all these messages? Go figure. Prime example of a message trap: The rudeness, the arrogance, the insulting manner of my approach was to deliver perhaps enough of a shock to make her utter something other than her daily New Age affirmations. - Masked Zebra
[FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Thank you. It really opened my eyes to the potential that a horse can have in helping to heal lives that have been broken. And what a moment that must be when the horse lowers its head and signifies acceptance. I can see where they could have a profound effect on someone. And it was a nice thing to see individuals in the racing thoroughbred world, whom you might picture more as stuffy 1%ers, using their resources to support such a worthwhile program. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for taking the time to watch. I have thought about what it is about animal therapy that works for people. You have the old folks having visits from dogs, you have prisoners working with horses as well. You also have many associations for disabled riders who can come and sit on a horse and be led around that are very successful. I think in the case of the veterans with PTSD it involves a feeling of being in some position of control and yet also vulnerable to being rejected (no join up) or even becoming too afraid of the physical perils (bitten or kicked or knocked down). I feel these damaged men are already fearful, unsure, deeply wounded and just the fact that they would enter into a program like this takes courage and a sort of faith that their participation won't make things somehow worse. So, when they begin working with these animals who are so big and who were great athletes themselves and are no longer wanted or needed (are virtual dog meat) they can relate - a sort of fallen hero similarity. The fact that the horse eventually chooses (not forced or coerced in any way) to come to them, to accept them and to do them no harm is beyond moving for these vets. The men and women understand that these animals don't need to do any of that and the element of unconditional acceptance and fondness (maybe not love) touches these people at the deepest level where all of their pain resides. For me, these horses become a sort of personal, loving God - the embodiment of a kind of compassionate power. I am a true believer that God works through animals very powerfully. This documentary allowed a little of that to show through by allowing us to see how deeply effected, and how positively effected, many of the men and women were. If this isn't spiritual, if this isn't, in fact, God then it is a close second.
[FairfieldLife] Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: God bless you Judy. God bless you. It is good of her to define things for us. People interpret things the way they see them, and if that disagrees with her interpretation, it's a LIE. Therefore, she gets -- nay *has* -- to correct them. Also, if people don't find her interpretation interesting enough to argue with her incessantly about it, they're less intelligent than they used to be. 'Seems to me she's got that first one wrong, in that I don't remember her having been appointed as official corrector of ANYTHING, much less other people's interpretations of Robin or anything else said here. As for the second definition, 'seems to me that people figuring out that arguing with her is a waste of their time indicates that they've grown *more* intelligent, not less. And all of this to hide the fact that she's got nothing creative or original to contribute. She's just a tyrannical schoolmarm, correcting other people's papers and hoping one of them will dispute her corrections, so that she can try to lure them into an argument about it. Judy Stein...always an authfriend, never an author. Here is a beautiful example of Barry embodying the exact opposite of those fallen race horses - he provided nothing positive, nothing healing, nothing revelatory and could not, apparently, be the potential catalyst for any human being to feel love, acceptance, understanding or healing. Thanks for the demo, Barry. We can count on you to show us what we don't want to become as a human being. My prescription - go and work with street people, wounded people, wounded animals. Immerse yourself in the pain and agony that has resulted for others as a consequence of warmongers, violent people like yourself and then sit back and think about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@ wrote: How's that, Little Stevie? People tell lies, and I correct them, and I'm the mischief maker? I'm not sure you quite thought that one through. And of course, as you know, what Richard quotes isn't at all the sort of trap you were talking about. So it just all falls apart into an incoherent mess, as most of your sallies do these days. It's really too bad. You used to be so much brighter a few years back. Yes, good example Richard. Of course now Judy will coming rushing in, out of breath, to set the record straight. What a little mischief maker she is! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@ wrote: On 1/27/2014 7:34 PM, authfriend@ mailto:authfriend@ wrote: No, Little Stevie, you never observed any little traps. This message itself is a little trap - a trap to get your attention, Steve. Robin is the most famous trappist on the forum (followed closely by Curtis and Barry). My question is, was this the Hindu Robin, the Islamic Robin, or the Catholic Robin writing all these messages? Go figure. Prime example of a message trap: The rudeness, the arrogance, the insulting manner of my approach was to deliver perhaps enough of a shock to make her utter something other than her daily New Age affirmations. - Masked Zebra
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
On 1/27/2014 5:48 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: No no no, Little Stevie. We all know Robin switched from irony to seriousness. Everyone knows that Robin switched from irony to seriousness and then to parody - a parody of the Judy. Now that's ironic, but was Robin serious. I think Robin was being really serious. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
On 1/27/2014 7:34 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *No, Little Stevie, you never observed any little traps.* This message itself is a little trap - a trap to get your attention, Steve. Robin is the most famous trappist on the forum (followed closely by Curtis and Barry). My question is, was this the Hindu Robin, the Islamic Robin, or the Catholic Robin writing all these messages? Go figure. Prime example of a message trap: The rudeness, the arrogance, the insulting manner of my approach was to deliver perhaps enough of a shock to make her utter something other than her daily New Age affirmations. - Masked Zebra
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
Yes, good example Richard. Of course now Judy will coming rushing in, out of breath, to set the record straight. What a little mischief maker she is! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 1/27/2014 7:34 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: No, Little Stevie, you never observed any little traps. This message itself is a little trap - a trap to get your attention, Steve. Robin is the most famous trappist on the forum (followed closely by Curtis and Barry). My question is, was this the Hindu Robin, the Islamic Robin, or the Catholic Robin writing all these messages? Go figure. Prime example of a message trap: The rudeness, the arrogance, the insulting manner of my approach was to deliver perhaps enough of a shock to make her utter something other than her daily New Age affirmations. - Masked Zebra
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How's that, Little Stevie? People tell lies, and I correct them, and I'm the mischief maker? I'm not sure you quite thought that one through. And of course, as you know, what Richard quotes isn't at all the sort of trap you were talking about. So it just all falls apart into an incoherent mess, as most of your sallies do these days. It's really too bad. You used to be so much brighter a few years back. Yes, good example Richard. Of course now Judy will coming rushing in, out of breath, to set the record straight. What a little mischief maker she is! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 1/27/2014 7:34 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: No, Little Stevie, you never observed any little traps. This message itself is a little trap - a trap to get your attention, Steve. Robin is the most famous trappist on the forum (followed closely by Curtis and Barry). My question is, was this the Hindu Robin, the Islamic Robin, or the Catholic Robin writing all these messages? Go figure. Prime example of a message trap: The rudeness, the arrogance, the insulting manner of my approach was to deliver perhaps enough of a shock to make her utter something other than her daily New Age affirmations. - Masked Zebra
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God bless you Judy. God bless you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: How's that, Little Stevie? People tell lies, and I correct them, and I'm the mischief maker? I'm not sure you quite thought that one through. And of course, as you know, what Richard quotes isn't at all the sort of trap you were talking about. So it just all falls apart into an incoherent mess, as most of your sallies do these days. It's really too bad. You used to be so much brighter a few years back. Yes, good example Richard. Of course now Judy will coming rushing in, out of breath, to set the record straight. What a little mischief maker she is! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 1/27/2014 7:34 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: No, Little Stevie, you never observed any little traps. This message itself is a little trap - a trap to get your attention, Steve. Robin is the most famous trappist on the forum (followed closely by Curtis and Barry). My question is, was this the Hindu Robin, the Islamic Robin, or the Catholic Robin writing all these messages? Go figure. Prime example of a message trap: The rudeness, the arrogance, the insulting manner of my approach was to deliver perhaps enough of a shock to make her utter something other than her daily New Age affirmations. - Masked Zebra
[FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
Thank you. It really opened my eyes to the potential that a horse can have in helping to heal lives that have been broken. And what a moment that must be when the horse lowers its head and signifies acceptance. I can see where they could have a profound effect on someone. And it was a nice thing to see individuals in the racing thoroughbred world, whom you might picture more as stuffy 1%ers, using their resources to support such a worthwhile program. Thanks for sharing.
[FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an intro lecture, Buck, or even wanted to? I know it's difficult to imagine, interacting with the unwashed masses of the ignorant and all, all those who just aren't as good as you are. I'm just pointing out that pretty much NO ONE responds to your rants as they are. Do you think that maybe...just perhaps...the way you're writing them might have something to do with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an
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Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
You know what Judy, that could well be the case. But I've got to say, between you and Robin, (especially Robin), you've got that little trait down. Appearing to make something appear as though it's serious, when it actually irony and vice-versa. You (and Robin) would typically leave both options open depending on which you felt could cause the maximum amount of (attempted) humiliation of whomever you were sparring with. Just sayin... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Or maybe it was Share and yourself having the senior moments, mistakenly thinking Xeno had been seriously asking for alternatives to his medication rather than making an ironic point about jargon (jargon being the topic of the post, in which he was siding with Barry--of course--against the vile jargonistas on FFL). Xeno was a little nonplussed, I think, to find Share recommending aloe vera gel when she didn't know what his skin condition was nor what medication he was using for it, especially given that he hadn't intended to actually solicit alternative recommendations in the first place. Xeno certainly isn't the only person here to find some of Share's posts a bit, um, shall we say, disorienting. Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to
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Steve, not right away, but later I wondered if Xeno was playing off the whole jargon topic. I love his dry delivery but often don't get it immediately. Probably MY senior moment (-: On Monday, January 27, 2014 7:24 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
On 1/26/2014 1:35 PM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: BTW, the beej mantra of the muladhara chakra as ROT-1* is MBN... * Moving each letter one ahead (M = L; B = A; N = M) Thanks for this information - I was wondering about the bijas correspondence after viewing Susan Shumsky's yantra diagram indicating in Sanskrit the bija mantra for each chakra. There are apparently no informants on this list that can correctly identify their own bija mantra in if shown a series of Sanskrit or Hindi flash cards - I mean other than the OM symbol. Apparently I'm the only respondent that knows any Tibetan. Go figure. 'Exploring Chakras' by Susan Shumsky 2003
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
Or maybe it was Share and yourself having the senior moments, mistakenly thinking Xeno had been seriously asking for alternatives to his medication rather than making an ironic point about jargon (jargon being the topic of the post, in which he was siding with Barry--of course--against the vile jargonistas on FFL). Xeno was a little nonplussed, I think, to find Share recommending aloe vera gel when she didn't know what his skin condition was nor what medication he was using for it, especially given that he hadn't intended to actually solicit alternative recommendations in the first place. Xeno certainly isn't the only person here to find some of Share's posts a bit, um, shall we say, disorienting. Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders --
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
Well, you know, Little Stevie, if I thought you were actually referring to something real, I'd ask you for specific examples. But I know you don't do examples when you make accusations. So instead I'll just chuckle at your attempt to suggest that evil old Xeno was hoping to trick his readers into taking him seriously, rather than simply acknowledging that you and Share fucked up (Share because no opportunity for her to make a post, relevant or otherwise, is to be passed up, and you because Share must AT ALL COSTS be protected from her own helplessness). This was one of your more elaborate and imaginative evasions of accountability, Little Stevie. And believe me, Share is so appreciative. In any case, put an asterisk beside it; you may be able to adapt it for future use. You know what Judy, that could well be the case. But I've got to say, between you and Robin, (especially Robin), you've got that little trait down. Appearing to make something appear as though it's serious, when it actually irony and vice-versa. You (and Robin) would typically leave both options open depending on which you felt could cause the maximum amount of (attempted) humiliation of whomever you were sparring with. Just sayin... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Or maybe it was Share and yourself having the senior moments, mistakenly thinking Xeno had been seriously asking for alternatives to his medication rather than making an ironic point about jargon (jargon being the topic of the post, in which he was siding with Barry--of course--against the vile jargonistas on FFL). Xeno was a little nonplussed, I think, to find Share recommending aloe vera gel when she didn't know what his skin condition was nor what medication he was using for it, especially given that he hadn't intended to actually solicit alternative recommendations in the first place. Xeno certainly isn't the only person here to find some of Share's posts a bit, um, shall we say, disorienting. Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Well, you know, Little Stevie, if I thought you were actually referring to something real, I'd ask you for specific examples. But I know you don't do examples when you make accusations. This is always your first maneuver Judy, I want an example, as if we really need an example of Robin switching from irony to seriousness, and often blurring the line between. Of course, you perhaps, in singularity, always knew when Robin was doing one or the other. Honestly, I thought you two made a cute couple. Did I exaggerate that you would decide which card to play after the fact, when sparring with others? Actually, I don't think so. So instead I'll just chuckle at your attempt to suggest that evil old Xeno was hoping to trick his readers into taking him seriously, rather than simply acknowledging that you and Share fucked up (Share because no opportunity for her to make a post, relevant or otherwise, is to be passed up, and you because Share must AT ALL COSTS be protected from her own helplessness). Like who really cares if we misinterpreted what he meant? I mean, this may be a big issue for you. It may be cause for you to roll out your opsie macro, or even possibly your rly, ry stooopid comment. Glad to see we didn't reach that threshold...yet. That's sort of like an apple a day for you. This was one of your more elaborate and imaginative evasions of accountability, Little Stevie. And believe me, Share is so appreciative. In any case, put an asterisk beside it; you may be able to adapt it for future use. Well, I hope the rest of your day, or evening can be spent in other fruitful endeavors. You know what Judy, that could well be the case. But I've got to say, between you and Robin, (especially Robin), you've got that little trait down. Appearing to make something appear as though it's serious, when it actually irony and vice-versa. You (and Robin) would typically leave both options open depending on which you felt could cause the maximum amount of (attempted) humiliation of whomever you were sparring with. Just sayin... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Or maybe it was Share and yourself having the senior moments, mistakenly thinking Xeno had been seriously asking for alternatives to his medication rather than making an ironic point about jargon (jargon being the topic of the post, in which he was siding with Barry--of course--against the vile jargonistas on FFL). Xeno was a little nonplussed, I think, to find Share recommending aloe vera gel when she didn't know what his skin condition was nor what medication he was using for it, especially given that he hadn't intended to actually solicit alternative recommendations in the first place. Xeno certainly isn't the only person here to find some of Share's posts a bit, um, shall we say, disorienting. Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
You know, who knows, and really, who cares? So, I fell for it. Wouldn't be the first time. I got a few fun posts out of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, not right away, but later I wondered if Xeno was playing off the whole jargon topic. I love his dry delivery but often don't get it immediately. Probably MY senior moment (-: On Monday, January 27, 2014 7:24 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Sure Share, I guess we're all at the point where we might have a senior moment now and then. Maybe that was what was going on with ol Xeno. A little crotchety maybe. (-: For the record, I am very fond of Twinkies. And although I don't care for clams, I do think they are cute. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, Steve. The thing is, I am rarely offended by anything Xeno says, even when he likened me to a Hostess Twinkie and a clam. It has to do with that mysterious element of writing called tone. I am almost always soothed by Xeno's tone. And I thought it was fun that he provided the chemical signature of the medicine he's using. I wish my posts were more to his liking but there we are! On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:55 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Good point Anne. And not only that, he was able to make his point in one short paragraph! PTL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak
[FairfieldLife] RE: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?
Well, I think I was just being even a bit more (obsessively) mischievous than I tend to be usually. Honestly, had to think at least twice before could recall what I was trying to say with that headline. Perhaps first signs of dementia caused by the extremely volatile blood pressure I inherited from my mother.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I also find Doctordumb's assertion that they should just ask if they don't understand things to have a subtle and not entirely pleasant intent. You can cherry pick until you are blue in the face, Barry. The fact remains that the person I was addressing was lurking on the BATGAP forum, and rather than ask a question, he was making assumptions, which he then posted, on here. This has nothing to do with language that is difficult to understand, and much more with your emotional instability and immaturity. But, please, don't let that stop you.:-) Regards, Doctordumbass
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BTW, the beej mantra of the muladhara chakra as ROT-1* is MBN... * Moving each letter one ahead (M = L; B = A; N = M)
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Buck, I don't find myself especially spiritual. I feel like I'm just an endlessly curious (Western) Scorpio. I'm interested in the spiritual stuff rather the same way as I'm interested in, say, particle physics. I think it might be a symptom of (possible) Asperger's... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: I always welcome reading his posts. They tend to be very spiritual. Card alone and free on this, he does not deserve to be publicly humiliated or bullied around here. That seems really unkind. He always contributes quite a lot to the spiritual nature of FFL. I hope he stays on with us on FFL with his extremely high level of spiritual technicality. His is always refreshing as it happens here. That is my considered opinion based on experience, -Buck in the Dome Cardemaister wrote: Anyone know if NSR uses exclusively the biija-mantra of the muulaadhaara-cakra (beej mantra of the muladharachakra)? Turqoiseb writes: I know you're talking to a select group of language and TM nerds, Card, but given the discussions about jargon and buzzwords recently, I can't help translating your question into Far Side-speak the way some of us hear it. :-) Anyone know if blah blah uses exclusively the blah blah of the blah blah (blah blah of the blah blah)?
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! Who needs the lightening up, little Stevie? Let grandpa Xeno get a little riled, it's the most excited I've ever seen him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an intro lecture, Buck, or even wanted to? I know it's difficult to imagine, interacting with the unwashed masses of the ignorant and all, all those who just aren't as good as you are. I'm just pointing out that pretty much NO ONE responds to your rants as they are. Do you think that maybe...just perhaps...the way you're writing them might have something to do with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Om Dear Turq, I am concerned about you. It seems evident you are becoming somewhat obsessed and and even hung-up on this particular thought form around jargon
