Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk





This wartime karma is already 
evident in high gas prices, will be future evident in terrorist actions of the 
newly made enemies, as the friends of enemies become more enemies and the 
children of our targets who were merely collateral grow up, and finally increase 
of heroin use, the wholesale sale of which, is used to fund black ops.Expect to 
see many many good people succumb to heroin over the next ten years. 


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It is because Purusha has gone to Holland.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
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time in many years the murder rate has risen in the U.S. 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-14 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 6/13/06 10:34:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  Just for the record, the stats show that NYC isthe lowest-crime big 
  city. Guess which big cityis the highest?Dallas. Must be all those 
  librul judges...

Might have something to do with the mayors also. I'm not 
sure of Dallas' mayor now but they have had some pretty liberal ones in recent 
years. Liberal mayor many times means liberal police chief, you know, the David 
Denkins effect.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 For the first time in many years the murder rate has risen in the 
U.S.
   Could this have something to do with some 'collective karma'?
   Could the rise in U.S. caused deaths in Iraq, be coming back in 
this form?

Yep. No question. Definitely.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 6/13/06 9:48:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  For the first time in many years the murder rate has risen in the 
  U.S. Could this have something to do with some 'collective 
  karma'? Could the rise in U.S. caused deaths in Iraq, be coming back 
  in this form?Yep. No question. Definitely. 

Might also have something to do with all the riff raff coming 
across the Southern borders since so many of them make up a large percentage of 
the guests in our prisons. MS13, drug smuggling 
etc.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 6/13/06 9:48:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
 For the first time in many years the murder rate has risen in the  
 U.S.
  Could this have something to do with some 'collective  karma'?
  Could the rise in U.S. caused deaths in Iraq, be coming back  in 
 this form?
 
 Yep. No question. Definitely.
 
 
  
 
 
 Might also have something to do with all the riff raff coming  across the 
 Southern borders since so many of them make up a large percentage of  the 
 guests 
 in our prisons. MS13, drug smuggling  etc.


Where do you find stats on the number of illegal immigrants in our jails and 
prisons?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 6/13/06 9:48:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
 For the first time in many years the murder rate has risen in the  
 U.S.
  Could this have something to do with some 'collective  karma'?
  Could the rise in U.S. caused deaths in Iraq, be coming back  in 
 this form?
 
 Yep. No question. Definitely.
 
 
  
 
 
 Might also have something to do with all the riff raff coming  across the 
 Southern borders since so many of them make up a large percentage of  the 
 guests 
 in our prisons. MS13, drug smuggling  etc.


Where do you find stats on the number of illegal immigrants in our jails and 
prisons?






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 6/13/06 11:23:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Where do 
  you find stats on the number of illegal immigrants in our jails and 
  prisons?

MSNBC
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 6/13/06 11:25:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Where do 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 6/13/06 11:23:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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 Where do  you find stats on the number of illegal immigrants in our jails and 
  prisons?
 
 
 
 
 MSNBC



Hmmm... The latest gao stats I could find said 27% not 33%, but this was from 
last year's 
report in may, so MSNBC may have seen this year's report, which apparently 
hasn't made it 
to the GAO website:

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05337r.pdf


An interesting bit of trivia: 5 jails in the USA apparently account for 30% of 
all the illegal 
immigrant inmates in jail, and 5 states account for 80% of all the illegal 
immigrants in 
prison.

The LA, CA; NYC, NY, Orange  County, CA; Harris County, TX; Maricopa County, AZ 
jails 
had 30% of all illegal immigrant inmates (IIIs). The states with 80% of IIIs in 
jail or prison 
were: CA, TX, NY, FL, AZ.

This shows that the criminal element of illegal immigrants is concentrated in 
the border 
states. I would imagine that the border states are where the majority of 
illegal aliens live 
and work as well, so this shouldn't be too unexpected.


One thing that pops up in looking at the arrest records of the IIIs is that 99% 
of the IIIs in 
Federal prison have a prior arrest record and 96% of the IIIs in state and 
local prisons/jails 
have a prior arrest record.

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05646r.pdf


I don't know how this compares to the rest of the inmates, but it sounds rather 
high.


Another interesting statistic: 45% of all criminal arrests for IIIs were for 
drug related or 
immigration related offenses. 90% of all convictions were for drug or 
immigration related 
offenses.

Still another interesting stat: more than 71% of federal inmates were arrested 
and 87% of 
state/local inmates were arrested in CA, TX or AZ.




As I said, all these stats are from last year's report, based on the year 
before's stats. This 
year's report isn't online that I saw, but probably has roughly the same kind 
of stats.

It seems plausible, even likely, that most illegals in the USA are being 
arrested for drug 
and immigrant smuggling, and that when you exclude the smugglers, most IIIs are 
law-
abiding citizens (except for how they entered the country in the first place).

 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 It seems plausible, even likely, that most illegals in the USA are being 
 arrested for drug 
 and immigrant smuggling, and that when you exclude the smugglers, most IIIs 
 are 
law-
 abiding citizens (except for how they entered the country in the first 
 place).


To respond to your original speculation, it appears that only about 1% of all 
IIIs are in 
prison for murder. What you're suggesting is that the [I expect] 1/3 of 1% 
boost in 
murderer-IIIs this past year have committed enough multiple-murders to make 
national 
headlines about the boost in murder rate. 


Frankly, MY money, if  it turns out that there is a single group responsible, 
is on GWOT 
returnees with severe PTSD. Those guys are trained to commit multiple killings 
at peak 
efficiency.

Seriously, no-one has figured out what is going on, so we're probably both 
wrong.



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
[...]

Might also have something to do with all the riff raff coming across the 
Southern borders 
since so many of them make up a large percentage of the guests in our prisons. 
MS13, 
drug smuggling etc.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 6/13/06 6:37:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  seems plausible, even likely, that most illegals in the USA are being 
  arrested for drug and immigrant smuggling, and that when you exclude the 
  smugglers, most IIIs are law-abiding citizens (except for how they entered 
  the country in the first place). 
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the riff raff in the border states that is involved in drug 
trafficking is also involved in gangs like MS13 and that involves a lot of 
murders. Of course I think the majority of illegal's are basically good people 
that want to better their lives andnot cause any trouble.However the 
bad guys could definitely be responsible, in part, for ay rise in crime 
rates.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
 
 the riff raff in the border states that is involved in drug  trafficking is 
 also involved in gangs like MS13 and that involves a lot of  murders. Of 
 course 
 I think the majority of illegal's are basically good people  that want to 
 better their lives and not cause any trouble. However the  bad guys could 
 definitely be responsible, in part, for ay rise in crime  rates.



As I said, only about 1% of the IIIs are in prison for murder. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread shukra69
It is because Purusha has gone to Holland.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 For the first time in many years the murder rate has risen in the 
U.S.
   Could this have something to do with some 'collective karma'?
   Could the rise in U.S. caused deaths in Iraq, be coming back in 
this form?
   Could be...?
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
Just for the record, the stats show that NYC is
the lowest-crime big city.  Guess which big city
is the highest?

Dallas.  Must be all those librul judges...



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is because Purusha has gone to Holland.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ 
 wrote:
 
  For the first time in many years the murder rate has risen in the 
 U.S.
Could this have something to do with some 'collective karma'?
Could the rise in U.S. caused deaths in Iraq, be coming back in 
 this form?
Could be...?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread qntmpkt
---Most interesting statistic incorporating an inverse proportion to 
the numbers of Christian Fundamentalists.

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just for the record, the stats show that NYC is
 the lowest-crime big city.  Guess which big city
 is the highest?
 
 Dallas.  Must be all those librul judges...
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ 
wrote:
 
  It is because Purusha has gone to Holland.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ 
  wrote:
  
   For the first time in many years the murder rate has risen in 
the 
  U.S.
 Could this have something to do with some 'collective karma'?
 Could the rise in U.S. caused deaths in Iraq, be coming back 
in 
  this form?
 Could be...?








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