[FairfieldLife] Re: -Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hi yep the last was satire. Satire if it works does work only because there is some truth in it. However, your larger Wiki Golden_Domes work is quite good and seems to stand. I hope you can stand up to the TM-movement's legal department.Writing a TM history is always daunting. A frontal assault on the whole history for the general public will get overwhelmed quickly by the the branching of the story. However this Wiki Golden_Dome page is an important chapter in chronicling a history of TM. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Dear Wiki Editors, Om no, no. I have one complaint with this 'Golden Dome' Wiki entry. That second paragraph. As meditators we don't just believe this, we know that. Know it by experience. You're cheapening the overall Meissner Effect of spirituality going on here by declaring it as just some doctrine of belief that we believe in. It's what we know by virtue of meditating. It's Not just some 'belief'. There is a difference. Knowingness. I know. We know. It is. The science is even showing it. It is known. It's our experience. Please fix your 'Golden_Domes' entry to better represent the Truth. Yours in the M.E. of Fairfield, Iowa -Buck a meditator FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect Couple weeks ago I was at a State-wide meeting attended by mostly urban educated Iowa folks who when they saw Fairfield along with my name on my name-tag would ask about Fairfield. What I found really interesting now was how many folks living in Iowa really know nothing or extremely little about TM or what is going on here in Fairfield. If they knew anything most of people were not aware that Maharishi had passed away. Fairfield just was not in their consciousness. This wiki 'Golden-Dome' piece will work great for folks who are more than casually interested. I can think of quite a few regular people out in the State who would appreciate the article. I love the line that says it smells like feet inside! Incredible research. This serves as a great condensed narrative. I like the voice in it. I'd share this with anyone wondering about the utopian story here in Fairfield. Wow. Awesome project. Seems balanced, evidently well referenced and fact checked. FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
video, Dome meditating community 20 years ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olvIddB4ZdMfeature=related --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Dear Wiki Editors, Om no, no. I have one complaint with this 'Golden Dome' Wiki entry. That second paragraph. As meditators we don't just believe this, we know that. Know it by experience. You're cheapening the overall Meissner Effect of spirituality going on here by declaring it as just some doctrine of belief that we believe in. It's what we know by virtue of meditating. It's Not just some 'belief'. There is a difference. Knowingness. I know. We know. It is. The science is even showing it. It is known. It's our experience. Please fix your 'Golden_Domes' entry to better represent the Truth. Yours in the M.E. of Fairfield, Iowa -Buck a meditator FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect Couple weeks ago I was at a State-wide meeting attended by mostly urban educated Iowa folks who when they saw Fairfield along with my name on my name-tag would ask about Fairfield. What I found really interesting now was how many folks living in Iowa really know nothing or extremely little about TM or what is going on here in Fairfield. If they knew anything most of people were not aware that Maharishi had passed away. Fairfield just was not in their consciousness. This wiki 'Golden-Dome' piece will work great for folks who are more than casually interested. I can think of quite a few regular people out in the State who would appreciate the article. I love the line that says it smells like feet inside! Incredible research. This serves as a great condensed narrative. I like the voice in it. I'd share this with anyone wondering about the utopian story here in Fairfield. Wow. Awesome project. Seems balanced, evidently well referenced and fact checked. FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That was enjoyable Buck. Thanks for posting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: video, Dome meditating community 20 years ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olvIddB4ZdMfeature=related --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Dear Wiki Editors, Om no, no. I have one complaint with this 'Golden Dome' Wiki entry. That second paragraph. As meditators we don't just believe this, we know that. Know it by experience. You're cheapening the overall Meissner Effect of spirituality going on here by declaring it as just some doctrine of belief that we believe in. It's what we know by virtue of meditating. It's Not just some 'belief'. There is a difference. Knowingness. I know. We know. It is. The science is even showing it. It is known. It's our experience. Please fix your 'Golden_Domes' entry to better represent the Truth. Yours in the M.E. of Fairfield, Iowa -Buck a meditator FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect Couple weeks ago I was at a State-wide meeting attended by mostly urban educated Iowa folks who when they saw Fairfield along with my name on my name-tag would ask about Fairfield. What I found really interesting now was how many folks living in Iowa really know nothing or extremely little about TM or what is going on here in Fairfield. If they knew anything most of people were not aware that Maharishi had passed away. Fairfield just was not in their consciousness. This wiki 'Golden-Dome' piece will work great for folks who are more than casually interested. I can think of quite a few regular people out in the State who would appreciate the article. I love the line that says it smells like feet inside! Incredible research. This serves as a great condensed narrative. I like the voice in it. I'd share this with anyone wondering about the utopian story here in Fairfield. Wow. Awesome project. Seems balanced, evidently well referenced and fact checked. FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dear Wiki Editors, Om no, no. I have one complaint with this 'Golden Dome' Wiki entry. That second paragraph. As meditators we don't just believe this, we know that. Know it by experience. You're cheapening the overall Meissner Effect of spirituality going on here by declaring it as just some doctrine of belief that we believe in. It's what we know by virtue of meditating. It's Not just some 'belief'. There is a difference. Knowingness. I know. We know. It is. The science is even showing it. It is known. It's our experience. Please fix your 'Golden_Domes' entry to better represent the Truth. Yours in the M.E. of Fairfield, Iowa -Buck a meditator FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect Couple weeks ago I was at a State-wide meeting attended by mostly urban educated Iowa folks who when they saw Fairfield along with my name on my name-tag would ask about Fairfield. What I found really interesting now was how many folks living in Iowa really know nothing or extremely little about TM or what is going on here in Fairfield. If they knew anything most of people were not aware that Maharishi had passed away. Fairfield just was not in their consciousness. This wiki 'Golden-Dome' piece will work great for folks who are more than casually interested. I can think of quite a few regular people out in the State who would appreciate the article. I love the line that says it smells like feet inside! Incredible research. This serves as a great condensed narrative. I like the voice in it. I'd share this with anyone wondering about the utopian story here in Fairfield. Wow. Awesome project. Seems balanced, evidently well referenced and fact checked. FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: -Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Group practice of the TM-Sidhi program in the domes is said to create the Maharishi Effect, which is believed to be a coherence-producing field whose extent depends on the number of people practicing in one place. Perhaps it should saywhich is a belief that practitioners experience and know as a coherence-producing field.. If it is one's experience, than one knows it..hard to argue with individual knowingness. I have not experienced it and do not know it. --- On Sat, 8/20/11, Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: -Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 5:30 AM Dear Wiki Editors, Om no, no. I have one complaint with this 'Golden Dome' Wiki entry. That second paragraph. As meditators we don't just believe this, we know that. Know it by experience. You're cheapening the overall Meissner Effect of spirituality going on here by declaring it as just some doctrine of belief that we believe in. It's what we know by virtue of meditating. It's Not just some 'belief'. There is a difference. Knowingness. I know. We know. It is. The science is even showing it. It is known. It's our experience. Please fix your 'Golden_Domes' entry to better represent the Truth. Yours in the M.E. of Fairfield, Iowa -Buck a meditator FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect Couple weeks ago I was at a State-wide meeting attended by mostly urban educated Iowa folks who when they saw Fairfield along with my name on my name-tag would ask about Fairfield. What I found really interesting now was how many folks living in Iowa really know nothing or extremely little about TM or what is going on here in Fairfield. If they knew anything most of people were not aware that Maharishi had passed away. Fairfield just was not in their consciousness. This wiki 'Golden-Dome' piece will work great for folks who are more than casually interested. I can think of quite a few regular people out in the State who would appreciate the article. I love the line that says it smells like feet inside! Incredible research. This serves as a great condensed narrative. I like the voice in it. I'd share this with anyone wondering about the utopian story here in Fairfield. Wow. Awesome project. Seems balanced, evidently well referenced and fact checked. FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Incredible research. This serves as a great condensed narrative. I like the voice in it. I'd share this with anyone wondering about the utopian story here in Fairfield. -Buck Wow. Awesome project. Seems balanced, evidently well referenced and fact checked. FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I love the line that says it smells like feet inside! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Incredible research. This serves as a great condensed narrative. I like the voice in it. I'd share this with anyone wondering about the utopian story here in Fairfield. -Buck Wow. Awesome project. Seems balanced, evidently well referenced and fact checked. FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Couple weeks ago I was at a State-wide meeting attended by mostly urban educated Iowa folks who when they saw Fairfield along with my name on my name-tag would ask about Fairfield. What I found really interesting now was how many folks living in Iowa really know nothing or extremely little about TM or what is going on here in Fairfield. If they knew anything most of people were not aware that Maharishi had passed away. Fairfield just was not in their consciousness. This wiki 'Golden-Dome' piece will work great for folks who are more than casually interested. I can think of quite a few regular people out in the State who would appreciate the article. I love the line that says it smells like feet inside! Incredible research. This serves as a great condensed narrative. I like the voice in it. I'd share this with anyone wondering about the utopian story here in Fairfield. -Buck Wow. Awesome project. Seems balanced, evidently well referenced and fact checked. FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes
[FairfieldLife] Re: Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Poor RickBeing banned from the domes has been compared to .. practice of shunning see article in detail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunning The members of the Golden Dome community successfully enact their rituals without a common understanding of what the rituals are supposed to signify or why they are meaningful? Does the symbols and rituals sustain unity in the group because they completely transcend the individual beliefs of its members? Is it therefore socially meaningful as a source of social solidarity because it transcends the personal beliefs of individual, only? (To be socially meaningful only, interaction does not have to personally mean anything to the flyers. The »form« of a ritual is the only thing that is socially significant because it alone is fixed, objectified, and self-evident. It is significant even though each participant in the ritual may attach a different »content« to the form) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: FFL lurker solely responsible for the posted text and any errors it may contain. Will Beback http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Will_Beback talk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Will_Beback finishes very informative page on the domes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes
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On Aug 17, 2011, at 2:34 PM, merudanda wrote: Poor RickBeing banned from the domes has been compared to .. practice of shunning see article in detail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunning The members of the Golden Dome community successfully enact their rituals without a common understanding of what the rituals are supposed to signify or why they are meaningful? Does the symbols and rituals sustain unity in the group because they completely transcend the individual beliefs of its members? Is it therefore socially meaningful as a source of social solidarity because it transcends the personal beliefs of individual, only? (To be socially meaningful only, interaction does not have to personally mean anything to the flyers. The »form« of a ritual is the only thing that is socially significant because it alone is fixed, objectified, and self-evident. It is significant even though each participant in the ritual may attach a different »content« to the form) I've never seen a more confused-sounding lineage than TM's: ...Maharishi makes it clear that Transcendental Meditation was delivered to man about 5,000 years ago by the Hindu god Krishna. The technique was then lost, but restored for a time by Buddha. It was lost again, but rediscovered in the 9th century AD by the Hindu philosopher Shankara. Finally, it was revived by Brahmananda Saraswati (Guru Dev) and passed on to the Maharishi. (from the Transcendental Meditation entry) It was originally delivered to Krishna (presumably by chariot), who lost it, but then the Buddha found it (it had been behind the couch the whole time!), but Buddha being such an enlightened klutz lost it AGAIN. Thank gawd for Shankara, 'coz he found it again (whew!). Guru Dev obviously found some old Vedic Photocopies of Shankara's and gave one to Mahesh, who then began selling it. No one even mentions poor Trotaka and the Holy trad.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Poor RickBeing banned from the domes... Vaj: It was originally delivered to Krishna... No, it was deliverd BY Krishna, who is Ishvara. Nobody delivered anything to Ishvara because Krishna is the Inner Controller, the First Cause, the Creator. This seems pretty simple and follows basic Hindu scriptures - why can't you seem to understand this? You said you studied under a Shankaracharya! ...but Buddha being such an enlightened klutz lost it AGAIN. No, the KNOWLEGE was lost by the desciples of Buddha, like yourself, who lost it due to the long lapse of time. Buddha didn't lose anything, he gained everything - Nirvana. No one even mentions poor Trotaka and the Holy trad. Well, Trotaka was mentioned in the vow you made to become a TM Teacher; the vow you made when you promised Maharishi to keep the teaching pure; the vow you took when you bowed down before the image of Guru Dev and accepted him as your Guru. Don't you remember the vow you made to GD?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Aug 17, 2011, at 2:34 PM, merudanda wrote: Poor RickBeing banned from the domes has been compared to .. practice of shunning see article in detail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunning The members of the Golden Dome community successfully enact their rituals without a common understanding of what the rituals are supposed to signify or why they are meaningful? Does the symbols and rituals sustain unity in the group because they completely transcend the individual beliefs of its members? Is it therefore socially meaningful as a source of social solidarity because it transcends the personal beliefs of individual, only? (To be socially meaningful only, interaction does not have to personally mean anything to the flyers. The »form« of a ritual is the only thing that is socially significant because it alone is fixed, objectified, and self-evident. It is significant even though each participant in the ritual may attach a different »content« to the form) I've never seen a more confused-sounding lineage than TM's: ...Maharishi makes it clear that Transcendental Meditation was delivered to man about 5,000 years ago by the Hindu god Krishnahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna. The technique was then lost, but restored for a time by Buddhahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha. It was lost again, but rediscovered in the 9th century AD by the Hindu philosopher Shankara http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Shankara. Finally, it was revived by Brahmananda Saraswatihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmananda_Saraswati(Guru Dev) and passed on to the Maharishi. (from the Transcendental Meditation entry) It was originally delivered to Krishna (presumably by chariot), who lost it, but then the Buddha found it (it had been behind the couch the whole time!), but Buddha being such an enlightened klutz lost it AGAIN. Thank gawd for Shankara, 'coz he found it again (whew!). Guru Dev obviously found some old Vedic Photocopies of Shankara's and gave one to Mahesh, who then began selling it. No one even mentions poor Trotaka and the Holy trad. It's as perplexing as RC finding Jesus. Heck, you'd think someone as great as He was/is wouldn't/couldn't get lost.
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On Aug 17, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Tom Pall wrote: It's as perplexing as RC finding Jesus. Heck, you'd think someone as great as He was/is wouldn't/couldn't get lost. The neon sign was unmistakable: Padre Pio and Jesus, never mind the bleeding hands. Many disillusioned TMers, presuming self-enlightenment, probably fell for the same alley! Come on Tom, at least try to be realistic.
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On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Aug 17, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Tom Pall wrote: It's as perplexing as RC finding Jesus. Heck, you'd think someone as great as He was/is wouldn't/couldn't get lost. The neon sign was unmistakable: Padre Pio and Jesus, never mind the bleeding hands. Many disillusioned TMers, presuming self-enlightenment, probably fell for the same alley! Come on Tom, at least try to be realistic. I am realistic, which is why I appreciate the story about the priest who had to go to the bathroom so he asked the janitor to fill in for him for a few minutes. First up was a woman who confessed to performing a Lewinsky on her husband. Not knowing what kind of penance to give out, the janitor ran to the alter boy and asked what does Father give for a Lewinsky? Usually a candy bar and a soda, Sir.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
On Aug 17, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Tom Pall wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Aug 17, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Tom Pall wrote: It's as perplexing as RC finding Jesus. Heck, you'd think someone as great as He was/is wouldn't/couldn't get lost. The neon sign was unmistakable: Padre Pio and Jesus, never mind the bleeding hands. Many disillusioned TMers, presuming self-enlightenment, probably fell for the same alley! Come on Tom, at least try to be realistic. I am realistic, which is why I appreciate the story about the priest who had to go to the bathroom so he asked the janitor to fill in for him for a few minutes. First up was a woman who confessed to performing a Lewinsky on her husband. Not knowing what kind of penance to give out, the janitor ran to the alter boy and asked what does Father give for a Lewinsky? Usually a candy bar and a soda, Sir. Great (but scary) comeback!
