[FairfieldLife] Re: A little bit about Bevan
Do I like Bevan? No. But I do admire what he has been able to accomplish. And that's my version of this story. This rings true and is an excellent analysis. I hope Bevan has had marvelous spiritual experiences during this whole thing. I first saw Bevan on a ladies course about 1977 in Arosa, Switz. He was so handsome, seemed very intelligent, totally devoted to MMY, had a twinkle in his eye and lots of compassion and a good sense of humor. Right, back in 70,s in Biarritz, I had a sudden tooth ache, and had to go to the dentist. Bevin had to okay this off site visit. I remember how compassionate he seemed to my plight. I know compassionate sounds too strong a work in this context, but that's the best way to describe it. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little bit about Bevan
He was probably glad it wasn't him. :) Maybe I'm just missing something here, but I find it fascinating how normal, everyday common-sense gets transformed into 'compassion' when it's from someone people obviously don't expect to have much. Sal On Mar 27, 2006, at 7:05 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Right, back in 70,s in Biarritz, I had a sudden tooth ache, and had to go to the dentist. Bevin had to okay this off site visit. I remember how compassionate he seemed to my plight. I know compassionate sounds too strong a work in this context, but that's the best way to describe it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I'm just missing something here, but I find it fascinating how normal, everyday common-sense gets transformed into 'compassion' when it's from someone people obviously don't expect to have much. Sal, there was no question about going to see the dentist. (common sense part). Bevan was in Maharishi's suite of rooms relaxing. It was fun to go up there. Let's just say he was sympathetic to my plight in a way I didn't expect. People change over time. According to others, this period was towards the tail end of the golden times, or the beginning of the funny times. Believe me, we had some sweet times in this movement. No one will ever take that away from us. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little bit about Bevan
On Mar 27, 2006, at 7:20 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Sal, there was no question about going to see the dentist. (common sense part). Bevan was in Maharishi's suite of rooms relaxing. It was fun to go up there. Let's just say he was sympathetic to my plight in a way I didn't expect. People change over time. According to others, this period was towards the tail end of the golden times, or the beginning of the funny times. Believe me, we had some sweet times in this movement. No one will ever take that away from us. The way you wear your hat. The way you sip your tea. The memory of all that Oh, no. They can't take that away from me... The way your smile just beams. The way you sing off-key. The way you haunt my dreams. No, no. They can't take that away from me... We may never, never meet again On the bumpy road to love. But I'll always, always keep The memory of... The way you hold your knife. The way we danced till three. The way you changed my life. No, no. They can't take that away from me. No, they can't take that away from me...
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The way you hold your knife. The way we danced till three. The way you changed my life. No, no. They can't take that away from me. No, they can't take that away from me... Now this is the way to start a Monday, with a damn good chuckle. Thanks! lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little bit about Bevan
on 3/27/06 7:20 AM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sal, there was no question about going to see the dentist. (common sense part). Bevan was in Maharishi's suite of rooms relaxing. It was fun to go up there. Let's just say he was sympathetic to my plight in a way I didn't expect. People change over time. According to others, this period was towards the tail end of the golden times, or the beginning of the funny times. Believe me, we had some sweet times in this movement. No one will ever take that away from us. I used to eat with Bevan occasionally there in Biarritz. He stuck me as being a gentle, humble, extremely devoted guy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little bit about Bevan
--- sparaig wrote: He gets to take a good portion of the heat for MMY's harsher edicts and its a very stressful place to be and it shows. It would be interesting to hear a roomful of bigwigs talk about their coping mechanisms for working with MMY. Does Bevan's approach parallel John Hagelin's, Bob Wynne's and other such types? How lucky Jerry Jarvis was to get away from all that. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig wrote: He gets to take a good portion of the heat for MMY's harsher edicts and its a very stressful place to be and it shows. It would be interesting to hear a roomful of bigwigs talk about their coping mechanisms for working with MMY. Does Bevan's approach parallel John Hagelin's, Bob Wynne's and other such types? How lucky Jerry Jarvis was to get away from all that. Gosh, I'd love to hear from him. Any way someone on this forum could contact him and have him visit with us? Rick? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little bit about Bevan
Its almost as fascinating as watching someone we all know to be dumber as a rock to actually put words together in apparently coherent sentences.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was probably glad it wasn't him. :) Maybe I'm just missing something here, but I find it fascinating how normal, everyday common-sense gets transformed into 'compassion' when it's from someone people obviously don't expect to have much. Sal On Mar 27, 2006, at 7:05 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Right, back in 70,s in Biarritz, I had a sudden tooth ache, and had to go to the dentist. Bevin had to okay this off site visit. I remember how compassionate he seemed to my plight. I know compassionate sounds too strong a work in this context, but that's the best way to describe it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend: Dear Rick From reading FFL tonight, it seems not much is known about Bevan. Here is the little I know. He first went to Rishikesh from Australia as a teenager and spent I think a year working on staff there. M told him to get his degrees, phd etc. So Bevan left India, went to England, went to Oxford University and ended up with a Master's in Philosophy. I remember his coming during the summer to Seelisberg to spend some time with Maharishi. He wanted so much to just stay there, but had to return and resume his studies. After the Master's degree was awarded Maharishi had Bevan trained as a TM-Sidhi Administrator and sent him to MIU, where he had very little power. He had to report to Rindi Schwartz on extremely important, time-sensitive projects. Many a time Rindi would just cut him off and say, call tomorrow, I'm retiring now, even when the fate of the University hung in the balance. Bevan swore he would never work through women again. After a time Maharishi appointed Bevan as President of the University and the checking of projects was done directly. Bevan has been responsible largely for fund-raising. Many a time the University came within a few weeks of closing down due to low finances; M kept taking more and more of the University's money for international projects. Bevan would literally have to get on the phone and beg for one of the millionaire donors to come through with 6 million (that was one story) or other such huge numbers in just a week. So he has actually kept the university going for many years but did not broadcast his role. Bevan has been publicly chastized by M again and again. He handled it well, just by not saying anything at all. At one point with the 7000 course, Bevan was pointing out to Maharishi that it wasn't possible in the time allotted to accomplish everything M demanded. At that point M blew up at Bevan and started to discuss holding the course elsewhere. For about an hour Bevan kept silent with his head down, not looking at anyone, and then Maharishi calmed down and allowed the course to continue at MUM. So, Bevan learned to hold his peace in order to keep the University front and center in M's attention and in a positive light. Bevan's foremost focus was keeping Maharishi appraised of the good side of the University. In that Bevan failed to honestly convey the true story; but then those that convey the not so rosey truth get fried and fired. Is that Bevan's fault? don't think so. Many a faculty meeting Bevan would just pour out love and compassion for the faculty. But there was very little that he could do in changing policy. M had his own vision and that had to be followed. Bevan faithfully followed M's vision. After all, it is M's university, not Bevan's. I think we need to be very careful to not compare M's Movement to a regular business. Sure, that may be a downfall; but we must remember that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. Bevan has taken many falls; but he picks himself up again and keeps plugging on. He's suffered from depression and low self-esteem, but just kept working. From my side he is to be admired for that. It's been tough on Bevan and he doesn't have many friends; very few that he can confide in. It's lonely at the top of the TM heap and M plans it that way. Bevan makes lots of mistakes, but don't we all? M now has Bevan by his side for a reason. I hope M's plan works for Bevan's sake. Do I like Bevan? No. But I do admire what he has been able to accomplish. And that's my version of this story. This rings true and is an excellent analysis. I hope Bevan has had marvelous spiritual experiences during this whole thing. I first saw Bevan on a ladies course about 1977 in Arosa, Switz. He was so handsome, seemed very intelligent, totally devoted to MMY, had a twinkle in his eye and lots of compassion and a good sense of humor. Whatever has happened over the years, it is certain that we all need to blame someone for the mess of the TMO, and Bevan is right there, front and center. An easy target. Easier than MMY. In the above post, I think the part about not evaluating the TMO as you would a regular business is a good point. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: From a friend: Dear Rick From reading FFL tonight, it seems not much is known about Bevan. Here is the little I know. He first went to Rishikesh from Australia as a teenager and spent I think a year working on staff there. M told him to get his degrees, phd etc. So Bevan left India, went to England, went to Oxford University and ended up with a Master's in Philosophy. I remember his coming during the summer to Seelisberg to spend some time with Maharishi. He wanted so much to just stay there, but had to return and resume his studies. After the Master's degree was awarded Maharishi had Bevan trained as a TM-Sidhi Administrator and sent him to MIU, where he had very little power. He had to report to Rindi Schwartz on extremely important, time-sensitive projects. Many a time Rindi would just cut him off and say, call tomorrow, I'm retiring now, even when the fate of the University hung in the balance. Bevan swore he would never work through women again. After a time Maharishi appointed Bevan as President of the University and the checking of projects was done directly. Bevan has been responsible largely for fund-raising. Many a time the University came within a few weeks of closing down due to low finances; M kept taking more and more of the University's money for international projects. Bevan would literally have to get on the phone and beg for one of the millionaire donors to come through with 6 million (that was one story) or other such huge numbers in just a week. So he has actually kept the university going for many years but did not broadcast his role. Bevan has been publicly chastized by M again and again. He handled it well, just by not saying anything at all. At one point with the 7000 course, Bevan was pointing out to Maharishi that it wasn't possible in the time allotted to accomplish everything M demanded. At that point M blew up at Bevan and started to discuss holding the course elsewhere. For about an hour Bevan kept silent with his head down, not looking at anyone, and then Maharishi calmed down and allowed the course to continue at MUM. So, Bevan learned to hold his peace in order to keep the University front and center in M's attention and in a positive light. Bevan's foremost focus was keeping Maharishi appraised of the good side of the University. In that Bevan failed to honestly convey the true story; but then those that convey the not so rosey truth get fried and fired. Is that Bevan's fault? don't think so. Many a faculty meeting Bevan would just pour out love and compassion for the faculty. But there was very little that he could do in changing policy. M had his own vision and that had to be followed. Bevan faithfully followed M's vision. After all, it is M's university, not Bevan's. I think we need to be very careful to not compare M's Movement to a regular business. Sure, that may be a downfall; but we must remember that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. Bevan has taken many falls; but he picks himself up again and keeps plugging on. He's suffered from depression and low self-esteem, but just kept working. From my side he is to be admired for that. It's been tough on Bevan and he doesn't have many friends; very few that he can confide in. It's lonely at the top of the TM heap and M plans it that way. Bevan makes lots of mistakes, but don't we all? M now has Bevan by his side for a reason. I hope M's plan works for Bevan's sake. Do I like Bevan? No. But I do admire what he has been able to accomplish. And that's my version of this story. This rings true and is an excellent analysis. I hope Bevan has had marvelous spiritual experiences during this whole thing. I first saw Bevan on a ladies course about 1977 in Arosa, Switz. He was so handsome, seemed very intelligent, totally devoted to MMY, had a twinkle in his eye and lots of compassion and a good sense of humor. Whatever has happened over the years, it is certain that we all need to blame someone for the mess of the TMO, and Bevan is right there, front and center. An easy target. Easier than MMY. In the above post, I think the part about not evaluating the TMO as you would a regular business is a good point. I concur. I was only exposed to Bevan the 4 or 5 times he appeared on my 6- month course in St. Moritz in 1977 (turquoise was on the same course) and I was always very impressed by how Bevan conducted himself. I thought he was a natural-born leader and very,
