[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-24 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Barry?  Barry who?

Look for the guy with the big callous on his right index finger. All that 
button pushing takes its toll.

  Dear Ann, I'll have you know, I find you far more interesting and I've been 
 laughing my ass off at you.  I particularly enjoy your exchanges with Share. 
  I can see that the two of you are moving closer and closer to 
 compatibility. 

I do believe you may be correct here, dear Em, especially if by 'compatibl'e 
you mean more tolerant and willing to let a lot of things slide by unremarked 
upon. Although, now that Share and I both know how much Barry enjoys following 
our posts we may just have to keep pumping out the crap, for his sake you 
understand. Share and I are selfless like that.

 The very nice thank you for your reply sounds like you are making good 
progress.  You are a hard case and a tough nut to crack, Ann, but someone is 
finally here to put you in your place and teach you a few manners.

It's been tried before, with limited success. Hence, the lash marks.

  You've been far too independent in your thought process; your sense of 
 humor is much too irreverent.  Your insights lack both content and clarity 
 and your manners, my dear, your manners.

My mother, in all truthfulness, would be devastated to hear it (about the 
manners).

  From where I sit, it is clear that the best descriptors around for your 
 behavior include gratuitous, nasty, and overall -  negative.  Ann, 
 there is a smidgen of hope for you, thanks be to God, but you must stop 
 taking things so personally.  I'm not sure who here knows how to do that.

Maybe Xeno could help me. Anyone who can listen to a potential terminal 
diagnosis and not take it personally can surely help me with my problems.

  I think maybe Bob did, but I hear he is off traipsing through the Himalayas 
 these days.  I'm rootin' for you Ann, I really am.  I hope you find the 
 perfect prom dress that sets of your beautiful blue eyes with the perfect 
 shade of lipstick to match and that you dance the night away in wild abandon.

I would love to, I really would Emily but I am having a dickens of a time 
finding abalone shoes to match the dress.

  Love, Emily
 
 
 
 
  From: Ann awoelflebater@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:08 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
  
 
   
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
 
  Ravi, you just made my evening.  So funny, you are.  Share, did you 
  find this funny?  Is there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of 
  compatibility exists between the two of you?   
 
 A word of caution here Emily. You are getting a tad close to what Barry 
 regards as high school crap and if you aren't careful you may not be able 
 to blow your nose. Or was it if you aren't smart enough dynamite will take 
 the top of your head off? No, wait, I think he said if you blow your nose 
 and brains come out you can't blame him. Damn, that can't be Wright, I mean 
 right. You'll have to ask him what he said  - I've got to go and figure out 
 what I'm going to wear to the prom.
  
  
  
  
  
   From: Ravi Chivukula 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
   
  
    
  And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any 
  coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary
  
  
  Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He 
  represents something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on 
  razor's edge, he will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable 
  and don't want to be harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how 
  he leads as normal life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in 
  numbers, in the cult - haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is 
  stable, predictable, consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and 
  will lead me across. No thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never.
  
  On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
  
  Dear Share,
  
  
  Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very 
  prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of 
  snow on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my 
  aura too dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, 
  reincarnation - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil 
  Rakshasaas.
  
  
  I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for 
  the ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, 
  till then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, 
  Teresa on my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used 
  to post here - any

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-24 Thread Emily Reyn
Ah, selfless does sound like a compatible quality.  I think Xeno was 
exhibiting acceptance of whatever.  Smile.    




 From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:48 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:

 Barry?  Barry who?

Look for the guy with the big callous on his right index finger. All that 
button pushing takes its toll.

 Dear Ann, I'll have you know, I find you far more interesting and I've been 
laughing my ass off at you.  I particularly enjoy your exchanges with Share. 
 I can see that the two of you are moving closer and closer to 
compatibility. 

I do believe you may be correct here, dear Em, especially if by 'compatibl'e 
you mean more tolerant and willing to let a lot of things slide by unremarked 
upon. Although, now that Share and I both know how much Barry enjoys following 
our posts we may just have to keep pumping out the crap, for his sake you 
understand. Share and I are selfless like that.

 The very nice thank you for your reply sounds like you are making good 
progress.  You are a hard case and a tough nut to crack, Ann, but someone is 
finally here to put you in your place and teach you a few manners.

It's been tried before, with limited success. Hence, the lash marks.

  You've been far too independent in your thought process; your sense of 
 humor is much too irreverent.  Your insights lack both content and clarity 
 and your manners, my dear, your manners.

My mother, in all truthfulness, would be devastated to hear it (about the 
manners).

 From where I sit, it is clear that the best descriptors around for your 
behavior include gratuitous, nasty, and overall -  negative.  Ann, 
there is a smidgen of hope for you, thanks be to God, but you must stop 
taking things so personally.  I'm not sure who here knows how to do that.

Maybe Xeno could help me. Anyone who can listen to a potential terminal 
diagnosis and not take it personally can surely help me with my problems.

 I think maybe Bob did, but I hear he is off traipsing through the Himalayas 
these days.  I'm rootin' for you Ann, I really am.  I hope you find the 
perfect prom dress that sets of your beautiful blue eyes with the perfect 
shade of lipstick to match and that you dance the night away in wild abandon.

I would love to, I really would Emily but I am having a dickens of a time 
finding abalone shoes to match the dress.

 Love, Emily
 
 
 
 
  From: Ann 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:08 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
  
 
   
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
 
  Ravi, you just made my evening.  So funny, you are.  Share, did you 
  find this funny?  Is there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of 
  compatibility exists between the two of you?   
 
 A word of caution here Emily. You are getting a tad close to what Barry 
 regards as high school crap and if you aren't careful you may not be able 
 to blow your nose. Or was it if you aren't smart enough dynamite will take 
 the top of your head off? No, wait, I think he said if you blow your nose 
 and brains come out you can't blame him. Damn, that can't be Wright, I mean 
 right. You'll have to ask him what he said  - I've got to go and figure out 
 what I'm going to wear to the prom.
  
  
  
  
  
   From: Ravi Chivukula 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
   
  
    
  And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any 
  coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary
  
  
  Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He 
  represents something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on 
  razor's edge, he will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable 
  and don't want to be harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me 
  how he leads as normal life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety 
  in numbers, in the cult - haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is 
  stable, predictable, consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and 
  will lead me across. No thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never.
  
  On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
  
  Dear Share,
  
  
  Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very 
  prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of 
  snow on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my 
  aura too dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, 
  reincarnation - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil 
  Rakshasaas.
  
  
  I'm sick Share - have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann

2013-02-23 Thread Share Long
I'll use the ex post as an example because it was the first one.  I think you 
sent it right before your trip.  Leaving it to the archivists of FFL I think 
you wrote:  I wonder how he feels about being called ex.


First of all there's an assumption that he knows he's being called ex.  Which 
he didn't til I told him about this incident.
Second of all there's an assumption that if he had known, he would have had a 
feeling about it.
Finally there's an assumption that he would have had a negative feeling about 
it.  Which is indirectly a negative assumption about me.    


All these assumptions of yours are revealed more clearly by what you say below: 
 I asked if he minded being called an ex because to me that is so 
impersonal and does not indicate in any way feelings of fondness or 
closeness to that person. 

Exactly!  This is the negative assumption you made about me.  You did not make 
the correct and positive assumption.  Which is I call him ex to avoid using his 
name to protect his privacy.  I call him ex to avoid tediously writing ex 
intimate partner or ex significant other or ex pre fiance.  


But I did check with him because I am a really good person and though I know he 
would never in a bazillion years lurk on FFL, I didn't want to be doing 
something that might hurt him even on the quantum mechanical level (-:


And I think he had as usual a good insight when he said that it sounded like I 
pushed one of your buttons.  You say you've never been an ex.  But maybe you 
have an issue about someone being impersonal about you.  Or not feeling 
fondness or closeness with you.  Natural enough.  Just good to be clear that 
it's your issue.


I don't mind when people disagree with me, etc.  But when someone responds in a 
way that seems already prejudiced against me, then I'm not interested in 
engaging with that person.  How is that beneficial to anyone?  And certainly 
you sounded prejudiced against me in the ex instance and in what came after:  
your responses about planets and individual responsibility; women and 
competition; Xeno and his diagnosis.  I do get your point about Norman 
churches.  But even that seemed gratuitously confrontational on your part. 


I get that we all make assumptions about what's posted here.  Seems the best we 
can do is make good guesses about someone's mindset based on their word choice, 
phraseology, etc.  And track record.  These 6 incidents listed below are your 
ONLY responses to my posts this year.  So your track record from last year 
seems to be continuing.    


Again, this is NOT about my allegedly not liking people to disagree with me, 
challenge me, etc.  This is about my not wanting to engage with people who 
sound prejudiced against and or as if they're carrying a grudge against me.  
Especially when they express this in a gratuitously confrontational and or 
nasty way.

I believe you are beneficent towards others.  I've seen that here.  



 From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:10 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
 

  
I am going to reply to this just because you got so many things skewed and you 
misinterpreted so much of what I wrote and what I meant. It is for the record 
not, evidently, for you per se as you clearly do not want to interact and you 
seem to miss what I am about approximately 90% of the time. You were correct, 
you don't 'get' me. Probably through no fault of your own.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing 
 with each other.

I don't think I said they were.

  They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME OTHER FFL POSTER 
and you responded, leading with a negative attitude towards me.

In your opinion. I am not actually negative in my feelings towards you, at 
least my interior experience is not one of negativity. It could be described 
more as trying to order what appears to me a disordered way of expressing 
oneself or thinking. Again, not your problem, merely my perception of you. 

  For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered him.

What??! How did you come up with THAT conclusion? Now THAT is a projection on 
me. I asked if he minded being called an ex because to me that is so 
impersonal and does not indicate in any way feelings of fondness or closeness 
to that person. I never indicated that you must be calling him your ex 
because you knew he disliked it. 

  You also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on something 
casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman churches in FF.

Not desperate and not leap(ing). I don't get up in the morning salivating 
for your blood Share. You are not my reason for posting here and I don't look 
for ways to jump on you. Norman churches for me don't exist in North America 
just like Tudor houses don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann

2013-02-23 Thread turquoiseb
For the record, this kind of crap is *exactly* what I 
meant earlier by Junior High School mean girls fight-
ing imaginary clique battles. *Both* Share and Ann have
had ample opportunity to just let this crap drop, to
cease and desist with this embarrassingly passive-
aggressive dick-waving. But n. *Both* of them
feel that their puny selves are so important that they
have to prolong it. 

As those of us who actually moved on from Junior High
School used to say back then, if brains were dynamite,
neither of these women would have enough to blow 
their noses. And IMO that also goes for anyone who 
piles on to this pathetic argument-baiting in an 
attempt to perpetuate it. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 I'll use the ex post as an example because it was the first one.  I think 
 you sent it right before your trip.  Leaving it to the archivists of FFL I 
 think you wrote:Â  I wonder how he feels about being called ex.
 
 First of all there's an assumption that he knows he's being called ex.  
 Which he didn't til I told him about this incident.
 Second of all there's an assumption that if he had known, he would have had a 
 feeling about it.
 Finally there's an assumption that he would have had a negative feeling about 
 it.  Which is indirectly a negative assumption about me.    
 
 All these assumptions of yours are revealed more clearly by what you say 
 below:Â  I asked if he minded being called an ex because to me that is so 
 impersonal and does not indicate in any way feelings of fondness or 
 closeness to that person. 
 
 Exactly!  This is the negative assumption you made about me.  You did not 
 make the correct and positive assumption.  Which is I call him ex to avoid 
 using his name to protect his privacy.  I call him ex to avoid tediously 
 writing ex intimate partner or ex significant other or ex pre fiance.  
 
 But I did check with him because I am a really good person and though I know 
 he would never in a bazillion years lurk on FFL, I didn't want to be doing 
 something that might hurt him even on the quantum mechanical level (-:
 
 And I think he had as usual a good insight when he said that it sounded like 
 I pushed one of your buttons.  You say you've never been an ex.  But maybe 
 you have an issue about someone being impersonal about you.  Or not feeling 
 fondness or closeness with you.  Natural enough.  Just good to be clear 
 that it's your issue.
 
 I don't mind when people disagree with me, etc.  But when someone responds 
 in a way that seems already prejudiced against me, then I'm not interested in 
 engaging with that person.  How is that beneficial to anyone?  And 
 certainly you sounded prejudiced against me in the ex instance and in what 
 came after:Â  your responses about planets and individual responsibility; 
 women and competition; Xeno and his diagnosis.  I do get your point about 
 Norman churches.  But even that seemed gratuitously confrontational on your 
 part. 
 
 I get that we all make assumptions about what's posted here.  Seems the best 
 we can do is make good guesses about someone's mindset based on their word 
 choice, phraseology, etc.  And track record.  These 6 incidents listed 
 below are your ONLY responses to my posts this year.  So your track record 
 from last year seems to be continuing. Â Â  
 
 Again, this is NOT about my allegedly not liking people to disagree with me, 
 challenge me, etc.  This is about my not wanting to engage with people who 
 sound prejudiced against and or as if they're carrying a grudge against me.  
 Especially when they express this in a gratuitously confrontational and or 
 nasty way.
 
 I believe you are beneficent towards others.  I've seen that here.  
 
 
 
  From: Ann awoelflebater@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:10 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
  
 
 Â  
 I am going to reply to this just because you got so many things skewed and 
 you misinterpreted so much of what I wrote and what I meant. It is for the 
 record not, evidently, for you per se as you clearly do not want to interact 
 and you seem to miss what I am about approximately 90% of the time. You were 
 correct, you don't 'get' me. Probably through no fault of your own.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
 
  Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing 
  with each other.
 
 I don't think I said they were.
 
   They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME OTHER FFL 
 POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude towards me.
 
 In your opinion. I am not actually negative in my feelings towards you, at 
 least my interior experience is not one of negativity. It could be described 
 more as trying to order what appears to me a disordered way of expressing 
 oneself or thinking. Again

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann

2013-02-23 Thread authfriend
What's fascinating is Barry's absolute obliviousness
to the fact that every one of his eight posts so far
today has been a demonstration of his own compulsion
to wave his dick.

And he doesn't even need for anybody to wave their
dick at him to inspire him to wave his own.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 For the record, this kind of crap is *exactly* what I 
 meant earlier by Junior High School mean girls fight-
 ing imaginary clique battles. *Both* Share and Ann have
 had ample opportunity to just let this crap drop, to
 cease and desist with this embarrassingly passive-
 aggressive dick-waving. But n. *Both* of them
 feel that their puny selves are so important that they
 have to prolong it. 
 
 As those of us who actually moved on from Junior High
 School used to say back then, if brains were dynamite,
 neither of these women would have enough to blow 
 their noses. And IMO that also goes for anyone who 
 piles on to this pathetic argument-baiting in an 
 attempt to perpetuate it. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  I'll use the ex post as an example because it was the first one.  I think 
  you sent it right before your trip.  Leaving it to the archivists of FFL I 
  think you wrote:Â  I wonder how he feels about being called ex.
  
  First of all there's an assumption that he knows he's being called ex.  
  Which he didn't til I told him about this incident.
  Second of all there's an assumption that if he had known, he would have had 
  a feeling about it.
  Finally there's an assumption that he would have had a negative feeling 
  about it.  Which is indirectly a negative assumption about me.    
  
  All these assumptions of yours are revealed more clearly by what you say 
  below:Â  I asked if he minded being called an ex because to me that is so 
  impersonal and does not indicate in any way feelings of fondness or 
  closeness to that person. 
  
  Exactly!  This is the negative assumption you made about me.  You did not 
  make the correct and positive assumption.  Which is I call him ex to avoid 
  using his name to protect his privacy.  I call him ex to avoid tediously 
  writing ex intimate partner or ex significant other or ex pre fiance.  
  
  But I did check with him because I am a really good person and though I 
  know he would never in a bazillion years lurk on FFL, I didn't want to be 
  doing something that might hurt him even on the quantum mechanical level (-:
  
  And I think he had as usual a good insight when he said that it sounded 
  like I pushed one of your buttons.  You say you've never been an ex.  But 
  maybe you have an issue about someone being impersonal about you.  Or not 
  feeling fondness or closeness with you.  Natural enough.  Just good to be 
  clear that it's your issue.
  
  I don't mind when people disagree with me, etc.  But when someone responds 
  in a way that seems already prejudiced against me, then I'm not interested 
  in engaging with that person.  How is that beneficial to anyone?  And 
  certainly you sounded prejudiced against me in the ex instance and in what 
  came after:Â  your responses about planets and individual responsibility; 
  women and competition; Xeno and his diagnosis.  I do get your point about 
  Norman churches.  But even that seemed gratuitously confrontational on 
  your part. 
  
  I get that we all make assumptions about what's posted here.  Seems the 
  best we can do is make good guesses about someone's mindset based on their 
  word choice, phraseology, etc.  And track record.  These 6 incidents 
  listed below are your ONLY responses to my posts this year.  So your track 
  record from last year seems to be continuing. Â Â  
  
  Again, this is NOT about my allegedly not liking people to disagree with 
  me, challenge me, etc.  This is about my not wanting to engage with people 
  who sound prejudiced against and or as if they're carrying a grudge against 
  me.  Especially when they express this in a gratuitously confrontational 
  and or nasty way.
  
  I believe you are beneficent towards others.  I've seen that here.  
  
  
  
   From: Ann awoelflebater@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:10 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
   
  
  Â  
  I am going to reply to this just because you got so many things skewed and 
  you misinterpreted so much of what I wrote and what I meant. It is for the 
  record not, evidently, for you per se as you clearly do not want to 
  interact and you seem to miss what I am about approximately 90% of the 
  time. You were correct, you don't 'get' me. Probably through no fault of 
  your own.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
  
   Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing 
   with each other.
  
  I don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann

2013-02-23 Thread Ann
What I can't figure out is why you bother to read our crap. I mean, it isn't 
like you don't know what you are clicking on to read when you see who posted 
something and what the message line is. Move on, there's nothing to see.

Now carry on holding court. There must be a couple of people here who hang on 
your every word, even if we have to count you as one of them.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 For the record, this kind of crap is *exactly* what I 
 meant earlier by Junior High School mean girls fight-
 ing imaginary clique battles. *Both* Share and Ann have
 had ample opportunity to just let this crap drop, to
 cease and desist with this embarrassingly passive-
 aggressive dick-waving. But n. *Both* of them
 feel that their puny selves are so important that they
 have to prolong it. 
 
 As those of us who actually moved on from Junior High
 School used to say back then, if brains were dynamite,
 neither of these women would have enough to blow 
 their noses. And IMO that also goes for anyone who 
 piles on to this pathetic argument-baiting in an 
 attempt to perpetuate it. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  I'll use the ex post as an example because it was the first one.  I think 
  you sent it right before your trip.  Leaving it to the archivists of FFL I 
  think you wrote:Â  I wonder how he feels about being called ex.
  
  First of all there's an assumption that he knows he's being called ex.  
  Which he didn't til I told him about this incident.
  Second of all there's an assumption that if he had known, he would have had 
  a feeling about it.
  Finally there's an assumption that he would have had a negative feeling 
  about it.  Which is indirectly a negative assumption about me.    
  
  All these assumptions of yours are revealed more clearly by what you say 
  below:Â  I asked if he minded being called an ex because to me that is so 
  impersonal and does not indicate in any way feelings of fondness or 
  closeness to that person. 
  
  Exactly!  This is the negative assumption you made about me.  You did not 
  make the correct and positive assumption.  Which is I call him ex to avoid 
  using his name to protect his privacy.  I call him ex to avoid tediously 
  writing ex intimate partner or ex significant other or ex pre fiance.  
  
  But I did check with him because I am a really good person and though I 
  know he would never in a bazillion years lurk on FFL, I didn't want to be 
  doing something that might hurt him even on the quantum mechanical level (-:
  
  And I think he had as usual a good insight when he said that it sounded 
  like I pushed one of your buttons.  You say you've never been an ex.  But 
  maybe you have an issue about someone being impersonal about you.  Or not 
  feeling fondness or closeness with you.  Natural enough.  Just good to be 
  clear that it's your issue.
  
  I don't mind when people disagree with me, etc.  But when someone responds 
  in a way that seems already prejudiced against me, then I'm not interested 
  in engaging with that person.  How is that beneficial to anyone?  And 
  certainly you sounded prejudiced against me in the ex instance and in what 
  came after:Â  your responses about planets and individual responsibility; 
  women and competition; Xeno and his diagnosis.  I do get your point about 
  Norman churches.  But even that seemed gratuitously confrontational on 
  your part. 
  
  I get that we all make assumptions about what's posted here.  Seems the 
  best we can do is make good guesses about someone's mindset based on their 
  word choice, phraseology, etc.  And track record.  These 6 incidents 
  listed below are your ONLY responses to my posts this year.  So your track 
  record from last year seems to be continuing. Â Â  
  
  Again, this is NOT about my allegedly not liking people to disagree with 
  me, challenge me, etc.  This is about my not wanting to engage with people 
  who sound prejudiced against and or as if they're carrying a grudge against 
  me.  Especially when they express this in a gratuitously confrontational 
  and or nasty way.
  
  I believe you are beneficent towards others.  I've seen that here.  
  
  
  
   From: Ann awoelflebater@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:10 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
   
  
  Â  
  I am going to reply to this just because you got so many things skewed and 
  you misinterpreted so much of what I wrote and what I meant. It is for the 
  record not, evidently, for you per se as you clearly do not want to 
  interact and you seem to miss what I am about approximately 90% of the 
  time. You were correct, you don't 'get' me. Probably through no fault of 
  your own.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
  
   Ann

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann

2013-02-23 Thread Ann
Thanks for your reply.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 I'll use the ex post as an example because it was the first one.  I think 
 you sent it right before your trip.  Leaving it to the archivists of FFL I 
 think you wrote:  I wonder how he feels about being called ex.
 
 
 First of all there's an assumption that he knows he's being called ex.  
 Which he didn't til I told him about this incident.
 Second of all there's an assumption that if he had known, he would have had a 
 feeling about it.
 Finally there's an assumption that he would have had a negative feeling about 
 it.  Which is indirectly a negative assumption about me.    
 
 
 All these assumptions of yours are revealed more clearly by what you say 
 below:  I asked if he minded being called an ex because to me that is so 
 impersonal and does not indicate in any way feelings of fondness or 
 closeness to that person. 
 
 Exactly!  This is the negative assumption you made about me.  You did not 
 make the correct and positive assumption.  Which is I call him ex to avoid 
 using his name to protect his privacy.  I call him ex to avoid tediously 
 writing ex intimate partner or ex significant other or ex pre fiance.  
 
 
 But I did check with him because I am a really good person and though I know 
 he would never in a bazillion years lurk on FFL, I didn't want to be doing 
 something that might hurt him even on the quantum mechanical level (-:
 
 
 And I think he had as usual a good insight when he said that it sounded like 
 I pushed one of your buttons.  You say you've never been an ex.  But maybe 
 you have an issue about someone being impersonal about you.  Or not feeling 
 fondness or closeness with you.  Natural enough.  Just good to be clear 
 that it's your issue.
 
 
 I don't mind when people disagree with me, etc.  But when someone responds 
 in a way that seems already prejudiced against me, then I'm not interested in 
 engaging with that person.  How is that beneficial to anyone?  And 
 certainly you sounded prejudiced against me in the ex instance and in what 
 came after:  your responses about planets and individual responsibility; 
 women and competition; Xeno and his diagnosis.  I do get your point about 
 Norman churches.  But even that seemed gratuitously confrontational on your 
 part. 
 
 
 I get that we all make assumptions about what's posted here.  Seems the best 
 we can do is make good guesses about someone's mindset based on their word 
 choice, phraseology, etc.  And track record.  These 6 incidents listed 
 below are your ONLY responses to my posts this year.  So your track record 
 from last year seems to be continuing.    
 
 
 Again, this is NOT about my allegedly not liking people to disagree with me, 
 challenge me, etc.  This is about my not wanting to engage with people who 
 sound prejudiced against and or as if they're carrying a grudge against me.  
 Especially when they express this in a gratuitously confrontational and or 
 nasty way.
 
 I believe you are beneficent towards others.  I've seen that here.  
 
 
 
  From: Ann awoelflebater@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:10 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
  
 
   
 I am going to reply to this just because you got so many things skewed and 
 you misinterpreted so much of what I wrote and what I meant. It is for the 
 record not, evidently, for you per se as you clearly do not want to interact 
 and you seem to miss what I am about approximately 90% of the time. You were 
 correct, you don't 'get' me. Probably through no fault of your own.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
 
  Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing 
  with each other.
 
 I don't think I said they were.
 
   They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME OTHER FFL 
 POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude towards me.
 
 In your opinion. I am not actually negative in my feelings towards you, at 
 least my interior experience is not one of negativity. It could be described 
 more as trying to order what appears to me a disordered way of expressing 
 oneself or thinking. Again, not your problem, merely my perception of you. 
 
   For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered him.
 
 What??! How did you come up with THAT conclusion? Now THAT is a projection on 
 me. I asked if he minded being called an ex because to me that is so 
 impersonal and does not indicate in any way feelings of fondness or closeness 
 to that person. I never indicated that you must be calling him your ex 
 because you knew he disliked it. 
 
   You also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on 
 something casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman churches 
 in FF.
 
 Not desperate and not leap

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-23 Thread Emily Reyn
Ravi, you just made my evening.  So funny, you are.  Share, did you find this 
funny?  Is there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of compatibility 
exists between the two of you?   





 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
 

  
And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence, 
resemblance to me is imaginary


Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He represents 
something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on razor's edge, he 
will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and don't want to be 
harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he leads as normal life 
as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in numbers, in the cult - haven't 
you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is stable, predictable, consistent, poses no 
threat, challenge to me and will lead me across. No thank you, Ravi Yogi's 
crazy - not again, never.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Dear Share,


Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very 
prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow on 
the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura too 
dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, reincarnation - 
destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas.


I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the 
ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till 
then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, Teresa on 
my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - 
any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary.


Love,
Ravi

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing 
with each other.  They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME 
OTHER FFL POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude towards 
me.  For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered him.  You 
also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on something 
casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman churches in FF.  
Even Judy responded to you about that.  Twice.  That's when I realized how 
desperate you are to see me in a negative way and that is why I have avoided 
you.  I'm not interested in dealing with your prejudices about me.  

Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to 
Buck this morning.  But you missed it too, didn't you?  When you said:  
wouldn't a true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc.  Again, this is just 
you seeing me and writing about me in a negative way.  

By the way, I noticed you didn't criticize Steve for taking up for you 
recently in Jan.  No making fun of him for being a knight on a white horse 
coming to the aid of a damsel in distress.  Which is what you used to do 
when he came to my defense.  Remember?  So it's ok when he comes to your 
defense but not when he comes to mine?  Why is that?

I've
 accepted that we're not
 compatible and I'm happy to not interact with you.  And you don't seem to 
enjoy what I have to say, even when it's to other posters.  So I wonder why you 
have kept trying to start an interaction with me this year.  Especially since 
it seems you've already come to a negative conclusion about me and or what's in 
my post.  Which is your right of course.  But generally I won't be 
participating in such.  There are more enjoyable and or enriching exchanges to 
be had on FFL.        



to Judy:  when I said Steve recently supported Ann, I was including January 
2013.
I'm pretty sure I did not reply to Ann before your reply to feste.  In any 
case, I didn't BLAME her for not getting me.  That's your spin on it.
I skimmed Steve's post to Ravi and missed the bit about Ravi Yogi whose name 
I wouldn't have recognized anyway.
I was talking about turq being ganged up on, not me.

I'm not willing to be vulnerable with people who are prejudiced and or 
holding a grudge against me.  

You are of course entitled to your opinions about me and my posts.

to Ravi:  I wasn't thinking of you when I wrote my reply to Steve.  Nor did 
I at that time even know who Ravi Yogi is.  Actually I skimmed Steve's 
post so didn't register his reference to Ravi Yogi at all.  You are of course 
entitled to your opinions about me and what I post.  However, as long 
as it sounds to me as if you're still prejudiced against me and or 
carrying a grudge, I will more than likely not reply to your posts.  But I wish 
you and your family all the best in everything.  


 From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-23 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Ravi, you just made my evening.  So funny, you are.  Share, did you find 
 this funny?  Is there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of 
 compatibility exists between the two of you?   

A word of caution here Emily. You are getting a tad close to what Barry regards 
as high school crap and if you aren't careful you may not be able to blow 
your nose. Or was it if you aren't smart enough dynamite will take the top of 
your head off? No, wait, I think he said if you blow your nose and brains come 
out you can't blame him. Damn, that can't be Wright, I mean right. You'll have 
to ask him what he said  - I've got to go and figure out what I'm going to wear 
to the prom.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
  
 
   
 And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence, 
 resemblance to me is imaginary
 
 
 Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He represents 
 something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on razor's edge, he 
 will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and don't want to be 
 harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he leads as normal life 
 as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in numbers, in the cult - 
 haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is stable, predictable, 
 consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and will lead me across. No 
 thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never.
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:
 
 Dear Share,
 
 
 Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very 
 prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow 
 on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura too 
 dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, reincarnation 
 - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas.
 
 
 I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the 
 ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till 
 then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, Teresa 
 on my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post 
 here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary.
 
 
 Love,
 Ravi
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
 
  
   
 Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing 
 with each other.  They were all instances where I was exchanging with 
 SOME OTHER FFL POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude 
 towards me.  For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered 
 him.  You also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on 
 something casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman 
 churches in FF.  Even Judy responded to you about that.  Twice.  That's 
 when I realized how desperate you are to see me in a negative way and that 
 is why I have avoided you.  I'm not interested in dealing with your 
 prejudices about me.  
 
 Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to 
 Buck this morning.  But you missed it too, didn't you?  When you said:  
 wouldn't a true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc.  Again, this is 
 just you seeing me and writing about me in a negative way.  
 
 By the way, I noticed you didn't criticize Steve for taking up for you 
 recently in Jan.  No making fun of him for being a knight on a white 
 horse coming to the aid of a damsel in distress.  Which is what you used 
 to do when he came to my defense.  Remember?  So it's ok when he comes 
 to your defense but not when he comes to mine?  Why is that?
 
 I've
  accepted that we're not
  compatible and I'm happy to not interact with you.  And you don't seem to 
 enjoy what I have to say, even when it's to other posters.  So I wonder why 
 you have kept trying to start an interaction with me this year.  Especially 
 since it seems you've already come to a negative conclusion about me and or 
 what's in my post.  Which is your right of course.  But generally I won't 
 be participating in such.  There are more enjoyable and or enriching 
 exchanges to be had on FFL.        
 
 
 
 to Judy:  when I said Steve recently supported Ann, I was including 
 January 2013.
 I'm pretty sure I did not reply to Ann before your reply to feste.  In 
 any case, I didn't BLAME her for not getting me.  That's your spin on it.
 I skimmed Steve's post to Ravi and missed the bit about Ravi Yogi whose 
 name I wouldn't have recognized anyway.
 I was talking about turq being ganged up on, not me.
 
 I'm not willing to be vulnerable with people who are prejudiced

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-23 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Thank you dear Em, out skiing again - I will head to Reno, gamble a bit and 
then go home tonight - nowhere else I promise :-)

Love,
Ravi

On Feb 23, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Ravi, you just made my evening.  So funny, you are.  Share, did you find this 
 funny?  Is there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of compatibility 
 exists between the two of you?   
 
 
 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
 
  
 And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence, 
 resemblance to me is imaginary
 
 Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He represents 
 something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on razor's edge, he 
 will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and don't want to be 
 harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he leads as normal life 
 as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in numbers, in the cult - 
 haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is stable, predictable, consistent, 
 poses no threat, challenge to me and will lead me across. No thank you, Ravi 
 Yogi's crazy - not again, never.
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Dear Share,
 
 Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very 
 prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow on 
 the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura too 
 dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, reincarnation - 
 destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas.
 
 I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the 
 ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till 
 then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, Teresa on 
 my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - 
 any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary.
 
 Love,
 Ravi
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
 Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing 
 with each other.  They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME 
 OTHER FFL POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude towards 
 me.  For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered him.  You 
 also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on something casual 
 I say, like you did with what I said about Norman churches in FF.  Even Judy 
 responded to you about that.  Twice.  That's when I realized how desperate 
 you are to see me in a negative way and that is why I have avoided you.  I'm 
 not interested in dealing with your prejudices about me.  
 
 Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to Buck 
 this morning.  But you missed it too, didn't you?  When you said:  wouldn't a 
 true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc.  Again, this is just you seeing 
 me and writing about me in a negative way.  
 
 By the way, I noticed you didn't criticize Steve for taking up for you 
 recently in Jan.  No making fun of him for being a knight on a white horse 
 coming to the aid of a damsel in distress.  Which is what you used to do when 
 he came to my defense.  Remember?  So it's ok when he comes to your defense 
 but not when he comes to mine?  Why is that?
 
 I've accepted that we're not compatible and I'm happy to not interact with 
 you.  And you don't seem to enjoy what I have to say, even when it's to other 
 posters.  So I wonder why you have kept trying to start an interaction with 
 me this year.  Especially since it seems you've already come to a negative 
 conclusion about me and or what's in my post.  Which is your right of course. 
  But generally I won't be participating in such.  There are more enjoyable 
 and or enriching exchanges to be had on FFL.
 
 to Judy:  when I said Steve recently supported Ann, I was including January  
 2013.
 I'm pretty sure I did not reply to Ann before your reply to feste.  In any 
 case, I didn't BLAME her for not getting me.  That's your spin on it.
 I skimmed Steve's post to Ravi and missed the bit about Ravi Yogi whose name 
 I wouldn't have recognized anyway.
 I was talking about turq being ganged up on, not me.
 I'm not willing to be vulnerable with people who are prejudiced and or 
 holding a grudge against me.  
 You are of course entitled to your opinions about me and my posts.
 
 to Ravi:  I wasn't thinking of you when I wrote my reply to Steve.  Nor did I 
 at that time even know who Ravi Yogi is.  Actually I skimmed Steve's post so 
 didn't register his reference to Ravi Yogi at all.  You are of course 
 entitled to your opinions about me and what I post.  However, as long as it 
 sounds to me as if you're still

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-23 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Oh and dear Em my situation seems to be more hopeless than the one I presented 
here. I was hoping my Brahmin ancestors would bail me out but there's no hope 
there either because I ate chicken both times I have skied since  I found that 
easier to maintain my energy levels back up, eating meat after 17 years.

But then again I have heard rumors that even God may be afraid of my yogi style 
confrontations and there's a deal in progress that would be presented to me 
upon my death - 144 virgins and 2 lifetimes of  eternity - whatever the heck 
that means. So yeah there's hope after death.

Love,
Ravi

On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you dear Em, out skiing again - I will head to Reno, gamble a bit and 
 then go home tonight - nowhere else I promise :-)
 
 Love,
 Ravi
 
 On Feb 23, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Ravi, you just made my evening.  So funny, you are.  Share, did you find 
 this funny?  Is there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of 
 compatibility exists between the two of you?   
 
 
 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
 
  
 And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence, 
 resemblance to me is imaginary
 
 Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He represents 
 something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on razor's edge, he 
 will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and don't want to be 
 harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he leads as normal life 
 as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in numbers, in the cult - 
 haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is stable, predictable, 
 consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and will lead me across. No 
 thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never.
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Dear Share,
 
 Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very 
 prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow 
 on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura too 
 dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, reincarnation 
 - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas.
 
 I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the 
 ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till 
 then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, Teresa 
 on my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here 
 - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary.
 
 Love,
 Ravi
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
 Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing 
 with each other.  They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME 
 OTHER FFL POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude towards 
 me.  For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered him.  You 
 also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on something 
 casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman churches in FF.  
 Even Judy responded to you about that.  Twice.  That's when I realized how 
 desperate you are to see me in a negative way and that is why I have avoided 
 you.  I'm not interested in dealing with your prejudices about me.  
 
 Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to 
 Buck this morning.  But you missed it too, didn't you?  When you said:  
 wouldn't a true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc.  Again, this is just 
 you seeing me and writing about me in a negative way.  
 
 By the way, I noticed you didn't criticize Steve for taking up for you 
 recently in Jan.  No making fun of him for being a knight on a white horse 
 coming to the aid of a damsel in distress.  Which is what you used to do 
 when he came to my defense.  Remember?  So it's ok when he comes to your 
 defense but not when he comes to mine?  Why is that?
 
 I've accepted that we're not compatible and I'm happy to not interact with 
 you.  And you don't seem to enjoy what I have to say, even when it's to 
 other posters.  So I wonder why you have kept trying to start an interaction 
 with me this year.  Especially since it seems you've already come to a 
 negative conclusion about me and or what's in my post.  Which is your right 
 of course.  But generally I won't be participating in such.  There are more 
 enjoyable and or enriching exchanges to be had on FFL.
 
 to Judy:  when I said Steve recently supported Ann, I was including January 
 2013.
 I'm pretty sure I did not reply to Ann before your reply to feste.  In any 
 case, I didn't BLAME her for not getting me.  That's your spin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-23 Thread Ravi Chivukula

On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh and dear Em my situation seems to be more hopeless than the one I 
 presented here. I was hoping my Brahmin ancestors would bail me out but 
 there's no hope there either because I ate chicken both times I have skied 
 since  I found that easier to maintain my energy levels back up, eating meat 
 after 17 years.
 
 But then again I have heard rumors that even God may be afraid of my yogi 
 style confrontations and there's a deal in progress that would be presented 
 to me upon my death - 144 virgins and 2 lifetimes of  eternity - whatever the 
 heck that means. So yeah there's hope after death.
 
 Love,
 Ravi

As a note of caution I will be quite happy with 108 virgins and I am quite 
willing to sacrifice 36 to honor my Hindu beliefs. I'm sure God would be quite 
happy to hear this.


 
 On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you dear Em, out skiing again - I will head to Reno, gamble a bit and 
 then go home tonight - nowhere else I promise :-)
 
 Love,
 Ravi
 
 On Feb 23, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Ravi, you just made my evening.  So funny, you are.  Share, did you find 
 this funny?  Is there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of 
 compatibility exists between the two of you?   
 
 
 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
 
  
 And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence, 
 resemblance to me is imaginary
 
 Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He represents 
 something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on razor's edge, he 
 will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and don't want to be 
 harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he leads as normal 
 life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in numbers, in the cult - 
 haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is stable, predictable, 
 consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and will lead me across. No 
 thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never.
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Dear Share,
 
 Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very 
 prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow 
 on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura too 
 dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, reincarnation 
 - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas.
 
 I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the 
 ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till 
 then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, Teresa 
 on my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post 
 here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary.
 
 Love,
 Ravi
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
 Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing 
 with each other.  They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME 
 OTHER FFL POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude 
 towards me.  For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered 
 him.  You also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on 
 something casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman churches 
 in FF.  Even Judy responded to you about that.  Twice.  That's when I 
 realized how desperate you are to see me in a negative way and that is why 
 I have avoided you.  I'm not interested in dealing with your prejudices 
 about me.  
 
 Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to 
 Buck this morning.  But you missed it too, didn't you?  When you said:  
 wouldn't a true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc.  Again, this is 
 just you seeing me and writing about me in a negative way.  
 
 By the way, I noticed you didn't criticize Steve for taking up for you 
 recently in Jan.  No making fun of him for being a knight on a white horse 
 coming to the aid of a damsel in distress.  Which is what you used to do 
 when he came to my defense.  Remember?  So it's ok when he comes to your 
 defense but not when he comes to mine?  Why is that?
 
 I've accepted that we're not compatible and I'm happy to not interact with 
 you.  And you don't seem to enjoy what I have to say, even when it's to 
 other posters.  So I wonder why you have kept trying to start an 
 interaction with me this year.  Especially since it seems you've already 
 come to a negative conclusion about me and or what's in my post.  Which is 
 your right of course.  But generally I won't be participating in such.  
 There are more enjoyable

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-23 Thread Emily Reyn
I don't know Ravi, I've heard virgins are overrated.  Just something I've 
heard, never had one myself.  

I approve of your spending Saturday skiing and gambling.  If you are in the 
phase of skiing where you need to be concentrating mightily to avoid bailing 
(as in, he bailed and landed on his head), a little meat now and then will 
help your brain.  The goal, Ravi, is to never lean back; lean out over the 
mountain at all times and learn how to use your edges.  I've been to Reno, 
although not for many years.  My sister's boyfriend won 600 bucks at video 
poker there once, so we went to a nice dinner.  I tried to learn craps, as I 
recall.  

I am always up for a confrontation Ravi, if you need to sow your wild oats.  
You will *win* of course, because I'm a bit slow on the uptake, but I do like 
to *win*, and I'm not above playing dirty and nasty to do it.  Love, Emily




 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
 

  


On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote:


Oh and dear Em my situation seems to be more hopeless than the one I presented 
here. I was hoping my Brahmin ancestors would bail me out but there's no hope 
there either because I ate chicken both times I have skied since  I found that 
easier to maintain my energy levels back up, eating meat after 17 years.


But then again I have heard rumors that even God may be afraid of my yogi 
style confrontations and there's a deal in progress that would be presented 
to me upon my death - 144 virgins and 2 lifetimes of  eternity - whatever the 
heck that means. So yeah there's hope after death.

Love,

Ravi

As a note of caution I will be quite happy with 108 virgins and I am quite 
willing to sacrifice 36 to honor my Hindu beliefs. I'm sure God would be quite 
happy to hear this.





On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote:


Thank you dear Em, out skiing again - I will head to Reno, gamble a bit and 
then go home tonight - nowhere else I promise :-)

Love,

Ravi

On Feb 23, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote:


  
Ravi, you just made my evening.  So funny, you are.  Share, did you find 
this funny?  Is there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of 
compatibility exists between the two of you?   






 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
 

  
And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any 
coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary


Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He 
represents something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on 
razor's edge, he will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and 
don't want to be harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he 
leads as normal life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in 
numbers, in the cult - haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is 
stable, predictable, consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and will 
lead me across. No thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Dear Share,


Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very 
prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of 
snow on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my 
aura too dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, 
reincarnation - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil 
Rakshasaas.


I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the 
ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till 
then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, 
Teresa on my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to 
post here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary.


Love,
Ravi

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our 
disagreeing with each other.  They were all instances where I was 
exchanging with SOME OTHER FFL POSTER and you responded, leading with a 
negative attitude towards me.  For example, your assuming I'd call my ex 
ex if it bothered him.  You also seem desperate to be negative about me 
when you leap on something casual I say, like you did with what I said 
about Norman churches in FF.  Even Judy responded to you about that.  
Twice.  That's when I realized how desperate you are to see me in a 
negative way and that is why I have avoided you.  I'm not interested in 
dealing with your prejudices

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-23 Thread Emily Reyn
Barry?  Barry who?  Dear Ann, I'll have you know, I find you far more 
interesting and I've been laughing my ass off at you.  I particularly enjoy 
your exchanges with Share.  I can see that the two of you are moving closer and 
closer to compatibility.  The very nice thank you for your reply sounds 
like you are making good progress.  You are a hard case and a tough nut to 
crack, Ann, but someone is finally here to put you in your place and teach you 
a few manners.  You've been far too independent in your thought process; your 
sense of humor is much too irreverent.  Your insights lack both content and 
clarity and your manners, my dear, your manners.  From where I sit, it is clear 
that the best descriptors around for your behavior include gratuitous, 
nasty, and overall -  negative.  Ann, there is a smidgen of hope for you, 
thanks be to God, but you must stop taking things so personally.  I'm not sure 
who here knows how to do that.  I
 think maybe Bob did, but I hear he is off traipsing through the Himalayas 
these days.  I'm rootin' for you Ann, I really am.  I hope you find the perfect 
prom dress that sets of your beautiful blue eyes with the perfect shade of 
lipstick to match and that you dance the night away in wild abandon.  Love, 
Emily




 From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:08 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:

 Ravi, you just made my evening.  So funny, you are.  Share, did you find 
 this funny?  Is there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of 
 compatibility exists between the two of you?   

A word of caution here Emily. You are getting a tad close to what Barry 
regards as high school crap and if you aren't careful you may not be able to 
blow your nose. Or was it if you aren't smart enough dynamite will take the 
top of your head off? No, wait, I think he said if you blow your nose and 
brains come out you can't blame him. Damn, that can't be Wright, I mean right. 
You'll have to ask him what he said  - I've got to go and figure out what I'm 
going to wear to the prom.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Ravi Chivukula 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
  
 
   
 And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence, 
 resemblance to me is imaginary
 
 
 Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He represents 
 something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on razor's edge, he 
 will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and don't want to be 
 harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he leads as normal 
 life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in numbers, in the cult - 
 haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is stable, predictable, 
 consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and will lead me across. No 
 thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never.
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
 
 Dear Share,
 
 
 Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very 
 prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow 
 on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura 
 too dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, 
 reincarnation - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas.
 
 
 I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the 
 ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till 
 then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, Teresa 
 on my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post 
 here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary.
 
 
 Love,
 Ravi
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Share Long  wrote:
 
  
   
 Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing 
 with each other.  They were all instances where I was exchanging with 
 SOME OTHER FFL POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude 
 towards me.  For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered 
 him.  You also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on 
 something casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman 
 churches in FF.  Even Judy responded to you about that.  Twice.  
 That's when I realized how desperate you are to see me in a negative way 
 and that is why I have avoided you.  I'm not interested in dealing with 
 your prejudices about me.  
 
 Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to 
 Buck this morning.  But you missed it too, didn't you?  When you said: 
  wouldn't a true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc.  Again, this is 
 just you seeing me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-22 Thread Share Long
Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing with 
each other.  They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME OTHER FFL 
POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude towards me.  For 
example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered him.  You also seem 
desperate to be negative about me when you leap on something casual I say, like 
you did with what I said about Norman churches in FF.  Even Judy responded to 
you about that.  Twice.  That's when I realized how desperate you are to see me 
in a negative way and that is why I have avoided you.  I'm not interested in 
dealing with your prejudices about me.  

Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to Buck 
this morning.  But you missed it too, didn't you?  When you said:  wouldn't a 
true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc.  Again, this is just you seeing me 
and writing about me in a negative way.  

By the way, I noticed you didn't criticize Steve for taking up for you recently 
in Jan.  No making fun of him for being a knight on a white horse coming to the 
aid of a damsel in distress.  Which is what you used to do when he came to my 
defense.  Remember?  So it's ok when he comes to your defense but not when he 
comes to mine?  Why is that?

I've accepted that we're not
 compatible and I'm happy to not interact with you.  And you don't seem to 
enjoy what I have to say, even when it's to other posters.  So I wonder why you 
have kept trying to start an interaction with me this year.  Especially since 
it seems you've already come to a negative conclusion about me and or what's in 
my post.  Which is your right of course.  But generally I won't be 
participating in such.  There are more enjoyable and or enriching exchanges to 
be had on FFL.        


to Judy:  when I said Steve recently supported Ann, I was including January 
2013.
I'm pretty sure I did not reply to Ann before your reply to feste.  In any 
case, I didn't BLAME her for not getting me.  That's your spin on it.
I skimmed Steve's post to Ravi and missed the bit about Ravi Yogi whose name I 
wouldn't have recognized anyway.
I was talking about turq being ganged up on, not me.

I'm not willing to be vulnerable with people who are prejudiced and or holding 
a grudge against me.  

You are of course entitled to your opinions about me and my posts.

to Ravi:  I wasn't thinking of you when I wrote my reply to Steve.  Nor did I 
at that time even know who Ravi Yogi is.  Actually I skimmed Steve's 
post so didn't register his reference to Ravi Yogi at all.  You are of course 
entitled to your opinions about me and what I post.  However, as long 
as it sounds to me as if you're still prejudiced against me and or 
carrying a grudge, I will more than likely not reply to your posts.  But I wish 
you and your family all the best in everything.  


 From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: (Ouch...) Alex--this is spam! to Ann
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 boy, Obbadohbba, did you ever!  Get that wrong I mean.  Anywho Annie I 
 think you and I are working off our karma with each other very nicely

I don't think I have any karma to 'work off with you' but we may be creating 
some.

.  To celebrate I'm gonna reply to all your attempts to start confrontations, 
er I mean conversations so far with me here in 2013:

I get the impression that if I don't agree with you about something or ask you 
a question you take it as a confrontation. Am I confronting you now? Oops, and 
now because I just asked you a question? Oops and now? Oh dear, this could turn 
into an endless loop of quest, er, I mean confrontations.
 
 My ex does not mind my calling him ex.  He laughed when I asked him and said 
 that it sounded like I had pushed one of your buttons.

Well, since I am no one's 'ex' I don't have a button there to push.
 
 Of course I know women can be competitive.  I played sports in grade school 
 and high school.  And I'm here on FFL (-:

Oh, because your comment stated otherwise. Take a look at it again. Not trying 
to say that you're wrong just that it looked like you were saying you were glad 
you were a woman because it meant you didn't have to worry about competing or 
being competitive.
 
 
 Judy thoroughly answered your confront, er comment about Norman churches in 
 FF, thank you.

I like the word thoroughly you used here to express what you felt was a 
positive for you and a negative for me.
 
 John perfectly answered your confront, er comment about the resigning Pope, 
 responsibility and planets, thank you.

And perfectly here is an interesting observation. I will have to look at that 
post again because I don't remember it. Have YOU ever answered me thoroughly or 
perfectly do you think?
 
 Concerning my NVC comment about contributing to 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-22 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Dear Share,

Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very
prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow
on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura too
dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, reincarnation
- destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas.

I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the
ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till
then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, Teresa
on my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post
here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary.

Love,
Ravi

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing
 with each other.  They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME
 OTHER FFL POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude
 towards me.  For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered
 him.  You also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on
 something casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman churches
 in FF.  Even Judy responded to you about that.  Twice.  That's when I
 realized how desperate you are to see me in a negative way and that is why
 I have avoided you.  I'm not interested in dealing with your prejudices
 about me.

 Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to
 Buck this morning.  But you missed it too, didn't you?  When you said:
 wouldn't a true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc.  Again, this is
 just you seeing me and writing about me in a negative way.

 By the way, I noticed you didn't criticize Steve for taking up for you
 recently in Jan.  No making fun of him for being a knight on a white horse
 coming to the aid of a damsel in distress.  Which is what you used to do
 when he came to my defense.  Remember?  So it's ok when he comes to your
 defense but not when he comes to mine?  Why is that?

 I've accepted that we're not compatible and I'm happy to not interact with
 you.  And you don't seem to enjoy what I have to say, even when it's to
 other posters.  So I wonder why you have kept trying to start an
 interaction with me this year.  Especially since it seems you've already
 come to a negative conclusion about me and or what's in my post.  Which is
 your right of course.  But generally I won't be participating in such.
 There are more enjoyable and or enriching exchanges to be had on FFL.


 to Judy:  when I said Steve recently supported Ann, I was including
 January 2013.
 I'm pretty sure I did not reply to Ann before your reply to feste.  In any
 case, I didn't BLAME her for not getting me.  That's your spin on it.
 I skimmed Steve's post to Ravi and missed the bit about Ravi Yogi whose
 name I wouldn't have recognized anyway.
 I was talking about turq being ganged up on, not me.
 I'm not willing to be vulnerable with people who are prejudiced and or
 holding a grudge against me.
 You are of course entitled to your opinions about me and my posts.

 to Ravi:  I wasn't thinking of you when I wrote my reply to Steve.  Nor
 did I at that time even know who Ravi Yogi is.  Actually I skimmed Steve's
 post so didn't register his reference to Ravi Yogi at all.  You are of
 course entitled to your opinions about me and what I post.  However, as
 long as it sounds to me as if you're still prejudiced against me and or
 carrying a grudge, I will more than likely not reply to your posts.  But I
 wish you and your family all the best in everything.
   --
 *From:* Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2013 9:05 AM
 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: (Ouch...) Alex--this is spam! to Ann


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  boy, Obbadohbba, did you ever!  Get that wrong I mean.  Anywho Annie I
 think you and I are working off our karma with each other very nicely

 I don't think I have any karma to 'work off with you' but we may be
 creating some.

 .  To celebrate I'm gonna reply to all your attempts to start
 confrontations, er I mean conversations so far with me here in 2013:

 I get the impression that if I don't agree with you about something or ask
 you a question you take it as a confrontation. Am I confronting you now?
 Oops, and now because I just asked you a question? Oops and now? Oh dear,
 this could turn into an endless loop of quest, er, I mean confrontations.
 
  My ex does not mind my calling him ex.  He laughed when I asked him and
 said that it sounded like I had pushed one of your buttons.

 Well, since I am no one's 'ex' I don't have a button there to push.
 
  Of course I know women can be competitive.  I played sports in grade
 school and high school.  And I'm here on FFL (-:

 Oh, because 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-22 Thread Ravi Chivukula
And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence,
resemblance to me is imaginary

Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He represents
something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on razor's edge, he
will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and don't want to be
harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he leads as normal
life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in numbers, in the cult -
haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru will lead me across. No thank
you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Share,

 Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very
 prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow
 on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura too
 dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, reincarnation
 - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas.

 I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the
 ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till
 then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, Teresa
 on my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post
 here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary.

 Love,
 Ravi

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing
 with each other.  They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME
 OTHER FFL POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude
 towards me.  For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered
 him.  You also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on
 something casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman churches
 in FF.  Even Judy responded to you about that.  Twice.  That's when I
 realized how desperate you are to see me in a negative way and that is why
 I have avoided you.  I'm not interested in dealing with your prejudices
 about me.

 Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to
 Buck this morning.  But you missed it too, didn't you?  When you said:
 wouldn't a true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc.  Again, this is
 just you seeing me and writing about me in a negative way.

 By the way, I noticed you didn't criticize Steve for taking up for you
 recently in Jan.  No making fun of him for being a knight on a white horse
 coming to the aid of a damsel in distress.  Which is what you used to do
 when he came to my defense.  Remember?  So it's ok when he comes to your
 defense but not when he comes to mine?  Why is that?

 I've accepted that we're not compatible and I'm happy to not interact
 with you.  And you don't seem to enjoy what I have to say, even when it's
 to other posters.  So I wonder why you have kept trying to start an
 interaction with me this year.  Especially since it seems you've already
 come to a negative conclusion about me and or what's in my post.  Which is
 your right of course.  But generally I won't be participating in such.
 There are more enjoyable and or enriching exchanges to be had on FFL.


 to Judy:  when I said Steve recently supported Ann, I was including
 January 2013.
 I'm pretty sure I did not reply to Ann before your reply to feste.  In
 any case, I didn't BLAME her for not getting me.  That's your spin on it.
 I skimmed Steve's post to Ravi and missed the bit about Ravi Yogi whose
 name I wouldn't have recognized anyway.
 I was talking about turq being ganged up on, not me.
 I'm not willing to be vulnerable with people who are prejudiced and or
 holding a grudge against me.
 You are of course entitled to your opinions about me and my posts.

 to Ravi:  I wasn't thinking of you when I wrote my reply to Steve.  Nor
 did I at that time even know who Ravi Yogi is.  Actually I skimmed Steve's
 post so didn't register his reference to Ravi Yogi at all.  You are of
 course entitled to your opinions about me and what I post.  However, as
 long as it sounds to me as if you're still prejudiced against me and or
 carrying a grudge, I will more than likely not reply to your posts.  But I
 wish you and your family all the best in everything.
   --
 *From:* Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2013 9:05 AM
 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: (Ouch...) Alex--this is spam! to Ann


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  boy, Obbadohbba, did you ever!  Get that wrong I mean.  Anywho Annie
 I think you and I are working off our karma with each other very nicely

 I don't think I have any karma to 'work off with you' but we may be
 creating some.

 .  To celebrate I'm gonna reply to all your attempts to start
 confrontations, er I mean 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-22 Thread Ravi Chivukula
And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence,
resemblance to me is imaginary

Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He represents
something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on razor's edge, he
will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and don't want to be
harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he leads as normal
life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in numbers, in the cult -
haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is stable, predictable,
consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and will lead me across. No
thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Share,

 Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very
 prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow
 on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura too
 dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, reincarnation
 - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas.

 I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the
 ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till
 then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, Teresa
 on my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post
 here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary.

 Love,
 Ravi

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing
 with each other.  They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME
 OTHER FFL POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude
 towards me.  For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered
 him.  You also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on
 something casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman churches
 in FF.  Even Judy responded to you about that.  Twice.  That's when I
 realized how desperate you are to see me in a negative way and that is why
 I have avoided you.  I'm not interested in dealing with your prejudices
 about me.

 Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to
 Buck this morning.  But you missed it too, didn't you?  When you said:
 wouldn't a true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc.  Again, this is
 just you seeing me and writing about me in a negative way.

 By the way, I noticed you didn't criticize Steve for taking up for you
 recently in Jan.  No making fun of him for being a knight on a white horse
 coming to the aid of a damsel in distress.  Which is what you used to do
 when he came to my defense.  Remember?  So it's ok when he comes to your
 defense but not when he comes to mine?  Why is that?

 I've accepted that we're not compatible and I'm happy to not interact
 with you.  And you don't seem to enjoy what I have to say, even when it's
 to other posters.  So I wonder why you have kept trying to start an
 interaction with me this year.  Especially since it seems you've already
 come to a negative conclusion about me and or what's in my post.  Which is
 your right of course.  But generally I won't be participating in such.
 There are more enjoyable and or enriching exchanges to be had on FFL.


 to Judy:  when I said Steve recently supported Ann, I was including
 January 2013.
 I'm pretty sure I did not reply to Ann before your reply to feste.  In
 any case, I didn't BLAME her for not getting me.  That's your spin on it.
 I skimmed Steve's post to Ravi and missed the bit about Ravi Yogi whose
 name I wouldn't have recognized anyway.
 I was talking about turq being ganged up on, not me.
 I'm not willing to be vulnerable with people who are prejudiced and or
 holding a grudge against me.
 You are of course entitled to your opinions about me and my posts.

 to Ravi:  I wasn't thinking of you when I wrote my reply to Steve.  Nor
 did I at that time even know who Ravi Yogi is.  Actually I skimmed Steve's
 post so didn't register his reference to Ravi Yogi at all.  You are of
 course entitled to your opinions about me and what I post.  However, as
 long as it sounds to me as if you're still prejudiced against me and or
 carrying a grudge, I will more than likely not reply to your posts.  But I
 wish you and your family all the best in everything.
   --
 *From:* Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2013 9:05 AM
 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: (Ouch...) Alex--this is spam! to Ann


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
  boy, Obbadohbba, did you ever!  Get that wrong I mean.  Anywho Annie
 I think you and I are working off our karma with each other very nicely

 I don't think I have any karma to 'work off with you' but we may be
 creating some.

 .  To celebrate 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi

2013-02-22 Thread Ann
I am going to reply to this just because you got so many things skewed and you 
misinterpreted so much of what I wrote and what I meant. It is for the record 
not, evidently, for you per se as you clearly do not want to interact and you 
seem to miss what I am about approximately 90% of the time. You were correct, 
you don't 'get' me. Probably through no fault of your own.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing 
 with each other.

I don't think I said they were.

  They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME OTHER FFL POSTER 
and you responded, leading with a negative attitude towards me.

In your opinion. I am not actually negative in my feelings towards you, at 
least my interior experience is not one of negativity. It could be described 
more as trying to order what appears to me a disordered way of expressing 
oneself or thinking. Again, not your problem, merely my perception of you. 

  For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered him.

What??! How did you come up with THAT conclusion? Now THAT is a projection on 
me. I asked if he minded being called an ex because to me that is so 
impersonal and does not indicate in any way feelings of fondness or closeness 
to that person. I never indicated that you must be calling him your ex 
because you knew he disliked it. 

  You also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on something 
casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman churches in FF.

Not desperate and not leap(ing). I don't get up in the morning salivating 
for your blood Share. You are not my reason for posting here and I don't look 
for ways to jump on you. Norman churches for me don't exist in North America 
just like Tudor houses don't. There are mock tudors and Norman style churches 
as far as I am concerned but maybe because I grew up in Europe it is a bias I 
have. There they have the real thing, built in the Norman times; so for me 
those are the real deal. Judy was correct in clarifying the architectural style 
as existing in North America but for me Norman is like Jacobean or Regency 
styles. If they aren't made in that era from materials that originated from 
that time for me they are faux or mock or neo. Technically I am probably wrong 
but there you have it.

  Even Judy responded to you about that.  Twice.  That's when I realized 
how desperate you are to see me in a negative way and that is why I have 
avoided you.  I'm not interested in dealing with your prejudices about me.  

Again, hardly desperate. It is not always about you Share, you just happen to 
be the recipient of some of my posts and thoughts that result from reading what 
you write. You seem to think that if someone expresses doubt or disagrees about 
what you think or write that it is negative. It is not. It is a chance to 
question your own beliefs and to see how it feels to consider other viewpoints. 
So far, I only see you feeling put upon when others don't congratulate you on 
or agree with your world view.
 
 Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to Buck 
 this morning.

Actually, I read it that mr leed was ragging on me for making jokes about 
sidhas. I didn't read it as him addressing your post at all. He was actually 
seriously annoyed that I was making jokes about sidhas not being able to get 
around in the snow.

  But you missed it too, didn't you?

Sure did, still do.

  When you said:  wouldn't a true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc.  
Again, this is just you seeing me and writing about me in a negative way.  

My God woman, these were not serious statements. This is where you possess a 
complete lack of an ability to laugh at yourself, at the world, at how I was 
joking about (and here I'll spell it out) how ironic that those who practice 
the siddhis can supposedly change the world, bring about great coherence and 
world peace but can't walk a mile in the snow or shovel out their car. 

 
 By the way, I noticed you didn't criticize Steve for taking up for you 
 recently in Jan.

I don't even remember what you are referring to.

  No making fun of him for being a knight on a white horse coming to the aid 
of a damsel in distress.

Was I a damsel in distress? You could cite the post to jog (get it?) my memory 
because I am at a complete loss here.

  Which is what you used to do when he came to my defense.  Remember?  So 
it's ok when he comes to your defense but not when he comes to mine?  Why is 
that?

Again WHAT?! This is what I mean by disordered thinking. I just don't 
understand how your mind works, how you jump all around to all sorts of 
conclusions. I sort of watch you leaping about, quite excited and agitated and 
all I can do is follow you back and forth like watching some demented tennis 
match. 
 
 I've accepted that we're not
  compatible and I'm happy to not interact