[FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
You conveniently forgot to mention that the idiot Palin also said that the Vice President was in charge of the US Senate. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I think Gov Sarah Palin pretty much summed up the duties of the Vice President when she said that the Vice President becomes the President when the sitting President is no longer able to serve. But it's a fact that it's a violation of Gov. Sarah Palin's rights under the U,S, Constitution when the media make up false and defamatory, sexist rumors and spread them, trying to alter the outcome of a presidential election. Like some respondents on FL do. I think it's breathtakingly stupid enough that Sarah Palin doesn't even know what the hell the Vice President actually does. But, Constitutional scholar that she is not, she has now declared that it may be a threat to her First Amendment rights when newspapers criticize her negative attacks on Barack Obama: http://www.salon. com/opinion/ greenwald/ 2008/10/31/ palin/index. html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
Vice President was in charge of the US Senate. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States
[FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
That is not being in charge of the Senate! VP merely presides, has no influence other than casting tie-breaking vote. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vice President was in charge of the US Senate. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
On Nov 1, 2008, at 9:49 AM, feste37 wrote: That is not being in charge of the Senate! VP merely presides, has no influence other than casting tie-breaking vote. And don't forget the classic, Get in there and make policy... nonsense. I'm going to miss Sarah after this. Bet the folks on SNL will too. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
I'm going to miss Sarah after this. Are you going somewhere - I was wondering when you were going to get out of the trailer park. But from what I've read, Gov. Palin is going to be around a lot getting ready for the next election. You should be getting ready too, and get some smarts about all the issues, that is, if you plan on voting intelligently. At present, your vote looks like a spoiler vote. Are you still thinking about voting for Ralph Nader? Bet the folks on SNL will too. How much would you be willing to wager? _._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 1, 2008, at 9:49 AM, feste37 wrote: That is not being in charge of the Senate! VP merely presides, has no influence other than casting tie-breaking vote. And don't forget the classic, Get in there and make policy... nonsense. I'm going to miss Sarah after this. Bet the folks on SNL will too. Possibly because she'll be competing against them in the ratings. I'm predicting that (assuming an Obama win) when this is all over, Sarah Palin will go back to Alaska and choose not to run in the next Gubernatorial election. Instead, I expect her to get her own national talk TV show, and use that as platform to push her candidacy for President in the next election. You heard it here first. Lou Valentino, eat your heart out. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
Instead, I expect her to get her own national talk TV show, and use that as platform to push her candidacy for President in the next election. I'm hoping Sarah moves to NY state, runs for the Senate, and boots out Hillary. :) Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sat, 11/1/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 11:37 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 1, 2008, at 9:49 AM, feste37 wrote: That is not being in charge of the Senate! VP merely presides, has no influence other than casting tie-breaking vote. And don't forget the classic, Get in there and make policy... nonsense. I'm going to miss Sarah after this. Bet the folks on SNL will too. Possibly because she'll be competing against them in the ratings. I'm predicting that (assuming an Obama win) when this is all over, Sarah Palin will go back to Alaska and choose not to run in the next Gubernatorial election. Instead, I expect her to get her own national talk TV show, and use that as platform to push her candidacy for President in the next election. You heard it here first. Lou Valentino, eat your heart out. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is not being in charge of the Senate! VP merely presides, has no influence other than casting tie-breaking vote. Dictionary.com disagrees with you, feste37: Preside Pre*side\, v. i. [imp. p. p. Presided; p. pr. vb. n. Presiding.] [L. praesidere; prae before + sedere to sit: cf. F. pr['e]sider. See Sit.] 1. To be set, or to sit, in the place of authority; to occupy the place of president, chairman, moderator, director, etc.; to direct, control, and regulate, as chief officer; as, to preside at a public meeting; to preside over the senate. 2. To exercise superintendence; to watch over. Some o'er the public magazines preside. --Dryden. and the thesaurus at the same website makes the case stronger: Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, Third Edition Main Entry: preside Part of Speech: verb Definition: be in authority Synonyms: administer, advise, be at the head of, be in driver's seat, call the signals, carry on, chair, conduct, control, direct, do the honors, govern, handle, head, head up, keep, lead, manage, officiate, operate, ordain, oversee, pull the strings, run, run the show, sit on top of, supervise Antonyms: follow, serve --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams willytex@ wrote: Vice President was in charge of the US Senate. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States
[FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possibly because she'll be competing against them in the ratings. I'm predicting that (assuming an Obama win) when this is all over, Sarah Palin will go back to Alaska and choose not to run in the next Gubernatorial election. Instead, I expect her to get her own national talk TV show, and use that as platform to push her candidacy for President in the next election. You heard it here first. Lou Valentino, eat your heart out. :-) BTW, I'm serious about this. I think that she's developed a real *taste* for being in front of the cameras and playing dressup. And a phone-in TV talk show would be the perfect forum for her, because her handlers could filter the callers and feed her soft- balls and obvious Leftist crackpots to play off of. We've got a few SciFi freaks here. Has anyone read Norman Spinrad's seminal Bug Jack Barron? Here's a short review, although the reference to long out of print does not seem to be true, because my Google search also brought up a current listing on Amazon: http://www.sfsite.com/08b/bj134.htm http://www.amazon.com/Bug-Jack-Barron-Norman-Spinrad/dp/1585675857 It's about a TV phone-in talk show host who becomes the most powerful person in America.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
You are missing the point entirely, and no dictionary or thesaurus can save you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: That is not being in charge of the Senate! VP merely presides, has no influence other than casting tie-breaking vote. Dictionary.com disagrees with you, feste37: Preside Pre*side\, v. i. [imp. p. p. Presided; p. pr. vb. n. Presiding.] [L. praesidere; prae before + sedere to sit: cf. F. pr['e]sider. See Sit.] 1. To be set, or to sit, in the place of authority; to occupy the place of president, chairman, moderator, director, etc.; to direct, control, and regulate, as chief officer; as, to preside at a public meeting; to preside over the senate. 2. To exercise superintendence; to watch over. Some o'er the public magazines preside. --Dryden. and the thesaurus at the same website makes the case stronger: Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, Third Edition Main Entry: preside Part of Speech: verb Definition: be in authority Synonyms: administer, advise, be at the head of, be in driver's seat, call the signals, carry on, chair, conduct, control, direct, do the honors, govern, handle, head, head up, keep, lead, manage, officiate, operate, ordain, oversee, pull the strings, run, run the show, sit on top of, supervise Antonyms: follow, serve --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams willytex@ wrote: Vice President was in charge of the US Senate. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States
[FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Possibly because she'll be competing against them in the ratings. I'm predicting that (assuming an Obama win) when this is all over, Sarah Palin will go back to Alaska and choose not to run in the next Gubernatorial election. Instead, I expect her to get her own national talk TV show, and use that as platform to push her candidacy for President in the next election. I think she'll have just about as much success as Katherine Harris did running for the US Senate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are missing the point entirely, and no dictionary or thesaurus can save you. If I'm missting the point entirely, why don't you educate me? That is if you have any point to make. But I suspect that you don't...at least, not any longer... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: That is not being in charge of the Senate! VP merely presides, has no influence other than casting tie-breaking vote. Dictionary.com disagrees with you, feste37: Preside Pre*side\, v. i. [imp. p. p. Presided; p. pr. vb. n. Presiding.] [L. praesidere; prae before + sedere to sit: cf. F. pr['e]sider. See Sit.] 1. To be set, or to sit, in the place of authority; to occupy the place of president, chairman, moderator, director, etc.; to direct, control, and regulate, as chief officer; as, to preside at a public meeting; to preside over the senate. 2. To exercise superintendence; to watch over. Some o'er the public magazines preside. --Dryden. and the thesaurus at the same website makes the case stronger: Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, Third Edition Main Entry: preside Part of Speech: verb Definition: be in authority Synonyms: administer, advise, be at the head of, be in driver's seat, call the signals, carry on, chair, conduct, control, direct, do the honors, govern, handle, head, head up, keep, lead, manage, officiate, operate, ordain, oversee, pull the strings, run, run the show, sit on top of, supervise Antonyms: follow, serve --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams willytex@ wrote: Vice President was in charge of the US Senate. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States
[FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
I doubt whether it's possible to educate you. The point is very simple. This is what the idiot Palin claimed, that the VP is in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes. The statement is untrue, as I have pointed out. The VP is not in charge of the Senate. Senators are in charge of the Senate and resist pressure from outside. Ask LBJ, who became VP in 1961 and thought he could influence the Democrats in the Senate by attending their meetings. They froze him out. It would be much easier if you tried to educate yourself for a change. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You are missing the point entirely, and no dictionary or thesaurus can save you. If I'm missting the point entirely, why don't you educate me? That is if you have any point to make. But I suspect that you don't...at least, not any longer... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: That is not being in charge of the Senate! VP merely presides, has no influence other than casting tie-breaking vote. Dictionary.com disagrees with you, feste37: Preside Pre*side\, v. i. [imp. p. p. Presided; p. pr. vb. n. Presiding.] [L. praesidere; prae before + sedere to sit: cf. F. pr['e]sider. See Sit.] 1. To be set, or to sit, in the place of authority; to occupy the place of president, chairman, moderator, director, etc.; to direct, control, and regulate, as chief officer; as, to preside at a public meeting; to preside over the senate. 2. To exercise superintendence; to watch over. Some o'er the public magazines preside. --Dryden. and the thesaurus at the same website makes the case stronger: Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, Third Edition Main Entry: preside Part of Speech: verb Definition: be in authority Synonyms: administer, advise, be at the head of, be in driver's seat, call the signals, carry on, chair, conduct, control, direct, do the honors, govern, handle, head, head up, keep, lead, manage, officiate, operate, ordain, oversee, pull the strings, run, run the show, sit on top of, supervise Antonyms: follow, serve --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams willytex@ wrote: Vice President was in charge of the US Senate. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States
[FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt whether it's possible to educate you. Truer words were never spoken. What a concept, a government with three branches that all work to keep the other branches power in check! That could really catch on. After Bush, who has done more than any president in history to subvert this basic premise of our country, is gone. The point is very simple. This is what the idiot Palin claimed, that the VP is in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes. The statement is untrue, as I have pointed out. The VP is not in charge of the Senate. Senators are in charge of the Senate and resist pressure from outside. Ask LBJ, who became VP in 1961 and thought he could influence the Democrats in the Senate by attending their meetings. They froze him out. It would be much easier if you tried to educate yourself for a change. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You are missing the point entirely, and no dictionary or thesaurus can save you. If I'm missting the point entirely, why don't you educate me? That is if you have any point to make. But I suspect that you don't...at least, not any longer... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: That is not being in charge of the Senate! VP merely presides, has no influence other than casting tie-breaking vote. Dictionary.com disagrees with you, feste37: Preside Pre*side\, v. i. [imp. p. p. Presided; p. pr. vb. n. Presiding.] [L. praesidere; prae before + sedere to sit: cf. F. pr['e]sider. See Sit.] 1. To be set, or to sit, in the place of authority; to occupy the place of president, chairman, moderator, director, etc.; to direct, control, and regulate, as chief officer; as, to preside at a public meeting; to preside over the senate. 2. To exercise superintendence; to watch over. Some o'er the public magazines preside. --Dryden. and the thesaurus at the same website makes the case stronger: Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, Third Edition Main Entry: preside Part of Speech: verb Definition: be in authority Synonyms: administer, advise, be at the head of, be in driver's seat, call the signals, carry on, chair, conduct, control, direct, do the honors, govern, handle, head, head up, keep, lead, manage, officiate, operate, ordain, oversee, pull the strings, run, run the show, sit on top of, supervise Antonyms: follow, serve --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams willytex@ wrote: Vice President was in charge of the US Senate. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States
[FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt whether it's possible to educate you. The point is very simple. This is what the idiot Palin claimed, that the VP is in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes. The statement is untrue, as I have pointed out. The VP is not in charge of the Senate. Senators are in charge of the Senate This is true only in the same sense as when we say that the people are in charge of the United States and not some king. Government of the people, by the people, for the people. But we elect a president to run our government and it is he or she that is in charge of the actual day to day running of the government, NOT the people. If the people were, we would have anarchy and chaos. You or I, feste37, don't get to sing executive orders; the president does. So in THAT sense, the senators are NOT in charge of the Senate; it is the president of the Senate who presides over it. And that president is the VP, at least whenever there is a tie-break to perform (not sure whether the VP can come into the Senate any time he or she pleases...but the VP may be able to do that! I would have to research it more). But the VP also performs other duties as president of the Senate: do you not remember seeing footage of VP Cheney as the person who swears in new Senators? Whether Democrat or Republican, it is the VP's job as the person in charge of the Senate to do the swearing in. and resist pressure from outside. Ask LBJ, who became VP in 1961 and thought he could influence the Democrats in the Senate by attending their meetings. They froze him out. It would be much easier if you tried to educate yourself for a change. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You are missing the point entirely, and no dictionary or thesaurus can save you. If I'm missting the point entirely, why don't you educate me? That is if you have any point to make. But I suspect that you don't...at least, not any longer... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: That is not being in charge of the Senate! VP merely presides, has no influence other than casting tie-breaking vote. Dictionary.com disagrees with you, feste37: Preside Pre*side\, v. i. [imp. p. p. Presided; p. pr. vb. n. Presiding.] [L. praesidere; prae before + sedere to sit: cf. F. pr['e] sider. See Sit.] 1. To be set, or to sit, in the place of authority; to occupy the place of president, chairman, moderator, director, etc.; to direct, control, and regulate, as chief officer; as, to preside at a public meeting; to preside over the senate. 2. To exercise superintendence; to watch over. Some o'er the public magazines preside. --Dryden. and the thesaurus at the same website makes the case stronger: Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, Third Edition Main Entry: preside Part of Speech: verb Definition: be in authority Synonyms: administer, advise, be at the head of, be in driver's seat, call the signals, carry on, chair, conduct, control, direct, do the honors, govern, handle, head, head up, keep, lead, manage, officiate, operate, ordain, oversee, pull the strings, run, run the show, sit on top of, supervise Antonyms: follow, serve --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams willytex@ wrote: Vice President was in charge of the US Senate. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States
[FairfieldLife] Re: FCOL, Sarah, read the Constitution!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 1, 2008, at 9:49 AM, feste37 wrote: That is not being in charge of the Senate! VP merely presides, has no influence other than casting tie-breaking vote. And don't forget the classic, Get in there and make policy... nonsense. I'm going to miss Sarah after this. Bet the folks on SNL will too. Well, as President of the Senate, the VP DOES have the right to hang around on teh Senate floor and shmooze on a daily basis if he or she so chooses and by extension, wield the gavel whenever they are present. Biden has indcated that he intends to start throwing his Vice-Presidential weight around the Senate in that manner as well. And it WILL affect the process of the Senate a great deal, I am certain. Lawson
