[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). You ought to read the article. A great deal of the irregularities did not even involve the voting machines. No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so they need to be taken care of ASAP. Well, of course they do. The point is there are very many more things that need to be taken care of as well, most of it low-tech. Failure to do so, only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things also, IMHO. Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson. You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a chance? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). You ought to read the article. A great deal of the irregularities did not even involve the voting machines. No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so they need to be taken care of ASAP. Well, of course they do. The point is there are very many more things that need to be taken care of as well, most of it low-tech. Failure to do so, only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things also, IMHO. Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson. You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a chance? And that's a really silly question to ask. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). You ought to read the article. A great deal of the irregularities did not even involve the voting machines. No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so they need to be taken care of ASAP. Well, of course they do. The point is there are very many more things that need to be taken care of as well, most of it low-tech. Failure to do so, only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things also, IMHO. Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson. You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a chance? And that's a really silly question to ask. Color me silly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). You ought to read the article. A great deal of the irregularities did not even involve the voting machines. No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so they need to be taken care of ASAP. Well, of course they do. The point is there are very many more things that need to be taken care of as well, most of it low-tech. Failure to do so, only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things also, IMHO. Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson. You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a chance? And that's a really silly question to ask. Color me silly. Color him Barbra. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). You ought to read the article. A great deal of the irregularities did not even involve the voting machines. No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so they need to be taken care of ASAP. Well, of course they do. The point is there are very many more things that need to be taken care of as well, most of it low-tech. Failure to do so, only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things also, IMHO. Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson. You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a chance? And that's a really silly question to ask. No, actually, it's the most pertinent question yet. Especially in light of the Democrats' long history of both election rigging and gerrymandering. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). You ought to read the article. A great deal of the irregularities did not even involve the voting machines. No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so they need to be taken care of ASAP. Well, of course they do. The point is there are very many more things that need to be taken care of as well, most of it low-tech. Failure to do so, only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things also, IMHO. Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson. You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a chance? And that's a really silly question to ask. No, actually, it's the most pertinent question yet. Especially in light of the Democrats' long history of both election rigging and gerrymandering. Both sides are guilty of just about anything you can mention. The side that is in power gets to do the most abuses, however. Bit of trivia: gerrymandering is named in honor of a Democratic (Democratic-Republican) governor who created a salaMANDER-like district to support his slate of candidates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). You ought to read the article. A great deal of the irregularities did not even involve the voting machines. No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so they need to be taken care of ASAP. Well, of course they do. The point is there are very many more things that need to be taken care of as well, most of it low-tech. Failure to do so, only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things also, IMHO. Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson. You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a chance? And that's a really silly question to ask. No, actually, it's the most pertinent question yet. Especially in light of the Democrats' long history of both election rigging and gerrymandering. Both sides are guilty of just about anything you can mention. The side that is in power gets to do the most abuses, however. Agreed. That's why i stopped reading RFK jr's article...it was obviously a slanted hatchet job against one party. Biased, unobjective. Bit of trivia: gerrymandering is named in honor of a Democratic (Democratic-Republican) governor who created a salaMANDER-like district to support his slate of candidates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess Civility Day must be over. :) Sal When 'lost Indian wire transfers' is the high standard of truthfullness, it's hard separate the wheat from the chaffe JohnY On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Yeah, Mr. Grassy Knoll, I'm tripping over myself to make sure everyone is aware of this. Best to read it before you pass judgment on it. This is not, repeat NOT, tinfoil-hattery (even though it *is* Bhairitu recommending it). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A must read: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election _stolen It should be at the top of the news but we know the crooks that now run big business and media will bury it. Call all the talk shows, newspapers, TV stations you can and harass them into carrying the story. Yeah, Mr. Grassy Knoll, I'm tripping over myself to make sure everyone is aware of this. By the way, Rolling Stone is pretty much a main stream publication these days. It wasn't when it first came out 35-odd years ago. But it is now. Perhaps it isn't at the top of the news because other media don't give credence to crap...in the same way serious media didn't give credence to all those right wing nut jobs about 10 years ago who said that Bill and Hilary Clinton engaged in the cocaine trade and routinely murdered their opponents... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: A must read: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election _stolen It should be at the top of the news but we know the crooks that now run big business and media will bury it. Call all the talk shows, newspapers, TV stations you can and harass them into carrying the story. Yeah, Mr. Grassy Knoll, I'm tripping over myself to make sure everyone is aware of this. Best to read it before you pass judgment on it. This is not, repeat NOT, tinfoil-hattery (even though it *is* Bhairitu recommending it). By the way, Rolling Stone is pretty much a main stream publication these days. It wasn't when it first came out 35-odd years ago. But it is now. Perhaps it isn't at the top of the news because other media don't give credence to crap...in the same way serious media didn't give credence to all those right wing nut jobs about 10 years ago who said that Bill and Hilary Clinton engaged in the cocaine trade and routinely murdered their opponents... That was crap. This ain't. And it's dead easy to tell the difference IF YOU READ THE PIECE. (P.S.: The MSM didn't publish the stuff about drug trading and murder, but they *did* publish very substantial amounts of other crap about the Clintons-- e.g., Whitewater--and are still doing so.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: A must read: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election _stolen It should be at the top of the news but we know the crooks that now run big business and media will bury it. Call all the talk shows, newspapers, TV stations you can and harass them into carrying the story. Yeah, Mr. Grassy Knoll, I'm tripping over myself to make sure everyone is aware of this. Best to read it before you pass judgment on it. This is not, repeat NOT, tinfoil-hattery (even though it *is* Bhairitu recommending it). Yesterday I did read about a 1/3 of it before giving up...despite all the impressive footnotes. By the way, Rolling Stone is pretty much a main stream publication these days. It wasn't when it first came out 35-odd years ago. But it is now. Perhaps it isn't at the top of the news because other media don't give credence to crap...in the same way serious media didn't give credence to all those right wing nut jobs about 10 years ago who said that Bill and Hilary Clinton engaged in the cocaine trade and routinely murdered their opponents... That was crap. This ain't. And it's dead easy to tell the difference IF YOU READ THE PIECE. I've read enough...but, yes, I will try to read the rest. Have you read all the crappy stuff on the Clintons? All of that was documented as well. (P.S.: The MSM didn't publish the stuff about drug trading and murder, but they *did* publish very substantial amounts of other crap about the Clintons-- e.g., Whitewater--and are still doing so.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
I guess Civility Day must be over. :) Sal On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, Mr. Grassy Knoll, I'm tripping over myself to make sure > everyone is aware of this. Best to read it before you pass judgment on it. This is not, repeat NOT, tinfoil-hattery (even though it *is* Bhairitu recommending it).
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: A must read: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election _stolen It should be at the top of the news but we know the crooks that now run big business and media will bury it. Call all the talk shows, newspapers, TV stations you can and harass them into carrying the story. Yeah, Mr. Grassy Knoll, I'm tripping over myself to make sure everyone is aware of this. Best to read it before you pass judgment on it. This is not, repeat NOT, tinfoil-hattery (even though it *is* Bhairitu recommending it). Yesterday I did read about a 1/3 of it before giving up...despite all the impressive footnotes. And you found that it was NOT tinfoil-hattery. snip Perhaps it isn't at the top of the news because other media don't give credence to crap...in the same way serious media didn't give credence to all those right wing nut jobs about 10 years ago who said that Bill and Hilary Clinton engaged in the cocaine trade and routinely murdered their opponents... That was crap. This ain't. And it's dead easy to tell the difference IF YOU READ THE PIECE. I've read enough...but, yes, I will try to read the rest. Have you read all the crappy stuff on the Clintons? All of that was documented as well. Um, no. Read The Hunting of the President by Joe Conason and Gene Lyons. There is, of course, no need for the scare quotes around documented in the case of the RFK piece. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess Civility Day must be over. :) Shemp declared it over so he could dump on Bhairitu. Sal On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Yeah, Mr. Grassy Knoll, I'm tripping over myself to make sure everyone is aware of this. Best to read it before you pass judgment on it. This is not, repeat NOT, tinfoil-hattery (even though it *is* Bhairitu recommending it). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
In a message dated 6/2/06 3:10:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election _stolen It should be at the top of the news but we know the crooks that now run big business and media will bury it. Call all the talk shows, newspapers, TV stations you can and harass them into carrying the story.Yeah, Mr. Grassy Knoll, I'm tripping over myself to make sure everyone is aware of this. Best to read it before you pass judgment on it. This is not, repeat NOT, tinfoil-hattery (even though it *is* Bhairitu recommending it).Yesterday I did read about a 1/3 of it before giving up...despite all the impressive footnotes. Well , all I can say is, if Bush and the Republicans have the power to rig the elections, the Democrats are totally screwed. Forget about 2006, much less 2008. Basically what this tells me is that really loyal Democrats are thinking in the backs of their minds, "we need to think of a better way to rig the elections in our favor!" If one party thinks they are being cheated and can't do anything about it, they most likely are going to look for a better way to cheat the other without getting caught. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote: A must read: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/ was_the_2004_election_stolen It should be at the top of the news but we know the crooks that now run big business and media will bury it. Call all the talk shows, newspapers, TV stations you can and harass them into carrying the story. Did you get to watch the Greg Palast interview with Amy Goodman I posted a while back? It details precisely how it was done in both elections--and why we really went to war. No I didn't but I heard Palast on a lot of talk radio recently on the subject. I have no less than three progressive radio stations in the area so I hear a lot of stuff on those shows. I'll have to take a look at interview. I used to have the Dish Network satellite which broadcast a lot of Democracy Now interviews on the FreeSpeechTV channel. As an old PUblic Access advocate, I wonder if the Free Speech TV channel ever allowed LOCAL access? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: A must read: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election _stolen It should be at the top of the news but we know the crooks that now run big business and media will bury it. Call all the talk shows, newspapers, TV stations you can and harass them into carrying the story. Yeah, Mr. Grassy Knoll, I'm tripping over myself to make sure everyone is aware of this. Best to read it before you pass judgment on it. This is not, repeat NOT, tinfoil-hattery (even though it *is* Bhairitu recommending it). Yesterday I did read about a 1/3 of it before giving up...despite all the impressive footnotes. And you found that it was NOT tinfoil-hattery. snip Perhaps it isn't at the top of the news because other media don't give credence to crap...in the same way serious media didn't give credence to all those right wing nut jobs about 10 years ago who said that Bill and Hilary Clinton engaged in the cocaine trade and routinely murdered their opponents... That was crap. This ain't. And it's dead easy to tell the difference IF YOU READ THE PIECE. I've read enough...but, yes, I will try to read the rest. Have you read all the crappy stuff on the Clintons? All of that was documented as well. Um, no. Read The Hunting of the President by Joe Conason and Gene Lyons. There is, of course, no need for the scare quotes around documented in the case of the RFK piece. Here's my problem with the RFK jr. piece...and why I stopped reading it. The piece dealt with a problem that is widespread in the US: there is not one election taking place, as the piece citess, but 13,000 different ones. Each of those jurisdictions runs their own election process with their own rules. THAT'S the problem...not that the Republicans bent the rules to their favour, 'cause the Dem's do it when they can do it, too. So once I got to that part of the article I said to myself: why read the rest when I know where it's going; this Democratic partisan -- RFK jr.-- is going to make it seem as if the Republicans are the bad guys and stole the election when the problem is the system. Did RFK jr. cite the problems with Illinois and West Virginia that many felt were responsible for stealing the election for his uncle in '60 when he ran against Nixon? Probably not. So, notwithstanding the very important issue of these 13,000 different elections, I'm not interested in reading what some partisan had to say about it. I got the general gist of it and bailed. Now, if I'm off base here and there was something ELSE in the article of importance, share it with me, by all means. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/2/06 3:10:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election _stolen It should be at the top of the news but we know the crooks that now run big business and media will bury it. Call all the talk shows, newspapers, TV stations you can and harass them into carrying the story. Yeah, Mr. Grassy Knoll, I'm tripping over myself to make sure everyone is aware of this. Best to read it before you pass judgment on it. This is not, repeat NOT, tinfoil-hattery (even though it *is* Bhairitu recommending it). Yesterday I did read about a 1/3 of it before giving up...despite all the impressive footnotes. Well , all I can say is, if Bush and the Republicans have the power to rig the elections, the Democrats are totally screwed. Forget about 2006, much less 2008. Basically what this tells me is that really loyal Democrats are thinking in the backs of their minds, we need to think of a better way to rig the elections in our favor! If one party thinks they are being cheated and can't do anything about it, they most likely are going to look for a better way to cheat the other without getting caught. Yeah, especially since they were really good at it back in the '60s when old Joe Kennedy used to buy elections for his sons. There's that famous quote by Joe Kennedy when in response to son Jack's plea for his father to spend even more money to buy even more influence, his father responded (paraphrased): Does Jack think money grows on tress? I'll buy Jack the election but I won't buy him a landslide. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote: A must read: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/ was_the_2004_election_stolen It should be at the top of the news but we know the crooks that now run big business and media will bury it. Call all the talk shows, newspapers, TV stations you can and harass them into carrying the story. Did you get to watch the Greg Palast interview with Amy Goodman I posted a while back? It details precisely how it was done in both elections--and why we really went to war. No I didn't but I heard Palast on a lot of talk radio recently on the subject. I have no less than three progressive radio stations in the area so I hear a lot of stuff on those shows. I'll have to take a look at interview. I used to have the Dish Network satellite which broadcast a lot of Democracy Now interviews on the FreeSpeechTV channel. As an old PUblic Access advocate, I wonder if the Free Speech TV channel ever allowed LOCAL access? I doubt it since it is satellite BUT you might be able to produce something for them and get it aired. A lot of the stuff was pretty amateurish like local access but interesting. Here's their link: http://www.freespeech.org/fscm2/genx.php?name=home To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Here's my problem with the RFK jr. piece...and why I stopped reading it. The piece dealt with a problem that is widespread in the US: there is not one election taking place, as the piece citess, but 13,000 different ones. Each of those jurisdictions runs their own election process with their own rules. THAT'S the problem...not that the Republicans bent the rules to their favour, 'cause the Dem's do it when they can do it, too. So once I got to that part of the article I said to myself: why read the rest when I know where it's going; this Democratic partisan -- RFK jr.-- is going to make it seem as if the Republicans are the bad guys and stole the election when the problem is the system. Did RFK jr. cite the problems with Illinois and West Virginia that many felt were responsible for stealing the election for his uncle in '60 when he ran against Nixon? Probably not. So, notwithstanding the very important issue of these 13,000 different elections, I'm not interested in reading what some partisan had to say about it. I got the general gist of it and bailed. Now, if I'm off base here and there was something ELSE in the article of importance, share it with me, by all means. Did you get this far (4th and 5th paragraphs of the article)? Any election, of course, will have anomalies. America's voting system is a messy patchwork of polling rules run mostly by county and city officials. ''We didn't have one election for president in 2004,'' says Robert Pastor, who directs the Center for Democracy and Election Management at American University. ''We didn't have fifty elections. We actually had 13,000 elections run by 13,000 independent, quasi- sovereign counties and municipalities.'' But what is most anomalous about the irregularities in 2004 was their decidedly partisan bent: Almost without exception they hurt John Kerry and benefited George Bush Farther down the page: But as the evening progressed, official tallies began to show implausible disparities -- as much as 9.5 percent -- with the exit polls. In ten of the eleven battleground states, the tallied margins departed from what the polls had predicted. In every case, the shift favored Bush ...Ihe greatest disparities between exit polls and the official vote count came in Republican strongholds. In precincts where Bush received at least eighty percent of the vote, the exit polls were off by an average of ten percent. By contrast, in precincts where Kerry dominated by eighty percent or more, the exit polls were accurate to within three tenths of one percent ''When you look at the numbers, there is a tremendous amount of data that supports the supposition of election fraud,'' concludes Freeman [a research methodology expert who says he hates the Democrats]. ''The discrepancies are higher in battleground states, higher where there were Republican governors, higher in states with greater proportions of African-American communities and higher in states where there were the most Election Day complaints. All these are strong indicators of fraud -- and yet this supposition has been utterly ignored by the press and, oddly, by the Democratic Party.' In the rest of the article, RFK cites many specific instances of various types of irregularities (not just the exit poll discrepancies) in which the massive majority resulted in more votes for Bush and fewer for Gore. If it weren't for this glaring disparity, you could explain away the irregularities as business as usual with both parties tweaking a flawed, fragmented system to their own advantage. If this were the case, you would expect to see a roughly equal number of irregularities that helped each candidate. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
In a message dated 6/2/06 5:02:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, notwithstanding the very important issue of these 13,000 different elections, I'm not interested in reading what some partisan had to say about it. I got the general gist of it and bailed.Now, if I'm off base here and there was something ELSE in the article of importance, share it with me, by all means. This is exactly where I bailed out also. 13,000 different elections all run by the people in power in the various precincts or however else it is divided up. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/2/06 5:02:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, notwithstanding the very important issue of these 13,000 different elections, I'm not interested in reading what some partisan had to say about it. I got the general gist of it and bailed. Now, if I'm off base here and there was something ELSE in the article of importance, share it with me, by all means. This is exactly where I bailed out also. 13,000 different elections all run by the people in power in the various precincts or however else it is divided up. Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Here's my problem with the RFK jr. piece...and why I stopped reading it. The piece dealt with a problem that is widespread in the US: there is not one election taking place, as the piece citess, but 13,000 different ones. Each of those jurisdictions runs their own election process with their own rules. THAT'S the problem...not that the Republicans bent the rules to their favour, 'cause the Dem's do it when they can do it, too. So once I got to that part of the article I said to myself: why read the rest when I know where it's going; this Democratic partisan -- RFK jr.-- is going to make it seem as if the Republicans are the bad guys and stole the election when the problem is the system. Did RFK jr. cite the problems with Illinois and West Virginia that many felt were responsible for stealing the election for his uncle in '60 when he ran against Nixon? Probably not. So, notwithstanding the very important issue of these 13,000 different elections, I'm not interested in reading what some partisan had to say about it. I got the general gist of it and bailed. Now, if I'm off base here and there was something ELSE in the article of importance, share it with me, by all means. Did you get this far (4th and 5th paragraphs of the article)? Yes, and those paragraphs are the ones I specifically was referring to. Any election, of course, will have anomalies. America's voting system is a messy patchwork of polling rules run mostly by county and city officials. ''We didn't have one election for president in 2004,'' says Robert Pastor, who directs the Center for Democracy and Election Management at American University. ''We didn't have fifty elections. We actually had 13,000 elections run by 13,000 independent, quasi- sovereign counties and municipalities.'' But what is most anomalous about the irregularities in 2004 was their decidedly partisan bent: Almost without exception they hurt John Kerry and benefited George Bush ...and it was this last line that pretty much told me that the rest of the article would be biased. Almost without exception. Out of 13,000 jurisdictions and almost without exception they hurt Kerry and benefitted Bush? Please. Perhaps the examples that RFK jr. was going to show indicated that but to suggest such a one-sided bias is, simply, absurd. If it's NOT absurd, then why bother reading more anyway? He's pretty much told us what's going to be in the rest of the piece. Let RFK jr. write about the '60 election first...THEN I'll consider reading this one. Farther down the page: But as the evening progressed, official tallies began to show implausible disparities -- as much as 9.5 percent -- with the exit polls. In ten of the eleven battleground states, the tallied margins departed from what the polls had predicted. In every case, the shift favored Bush ...Ihe greatest disparities between exit polls and the official vote count came in Republican strongholds. In precincts where Bush received at least eighty percent of the vote, the exit polls were off by an average of ten percent. By contrast, in precincts where Kerry dominated by eighty percent or more, the exit polls were accurate to within three tenths of one percent ''When you look at the numbers, there is a tremendous amount of data that supports the supposition of election fraud,'' concludes Freeman [a research methodology expert who says he hates the Democrats]. ''The discrepancies are higher in battleground states, higher where there were Republican governors, higher in states with greater proportions of African-American communities and higher in states where there were the most Election Day complaints. All these are strong indicators of fraud -- and yet this supposition has been utterly ignored by the press and, oddly, by the Democratic Party.' In the rest of the article, RFK cites many specific instances of various types of irregularities (not just the exit poll discrepancies) in which the massive majority resulted in more votes for Bush and fewer for Gore. If it weren't for this glaring disparity, you could explain away the irregularities as business as usual with both parties tweaking a flawed, fragmented system to their own advantage. If this were the case, you would expect to see a roughly equal number of irregularities that helped each candidate. Sorry, I just don't buy it. Let a NON partisan -- someone other than the fanatical RFK jr. -- champion this cause and maybe I'll give it more credence. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
In a message dated 6/2/06 6:06:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). So... you want them run by Democrats? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
Well, what can you say? Shemp giveth, and Shemp taketh away. :) Sal On Jun 2, 2006, at 3:28 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess Civility Day must be over. :) Shemp declared it over so he could dump on Bhairitu. > > Sal > > > On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > > Yeah, Mr. Grassy Knoll, I'm tripping over myself to make sure > > > everyone is aware of this. > > > > Best to read it before you pass judgment on it. > > This is not, repeat NOT, tinfoil-hattery (even > > though it *is* Bhairitu recommending it). >
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/2/06 6:06:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). So... you want them run by Democrats? I want them open sourced, or for there to be more choices, or both. The current state of affairs is appalling, no matter who is in control. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well , all I can say is, if Bush and the Republicans have the power to rig the elections, the Democrats are totally screwed. Forget about 2006, much less 2008. Basically what this tells me is that really loyal Democrats are thinking in the backs of their minds, "we need to think of a better way to rig the elections in our favor!" If one party thinks they are being cheated and can't do anything about it, they most likely are going to look for a better way to cheat the other without getting caught.http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6Check out the Greg Palast video.Also: make sure you're sitting down when you watch it... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip But what is most anomalous about the irregularities in 2004 was their decidedly partisan bent: Almost without exception they hurt John Kerry and benefited George Bush ...and it was this last line that pretty much told me that the rest of the article would be biased. Well, that's about the silliest thing I think you've ever said here. Almost without exception. Out of 13,000 jurisdictions and almost without exception they hurt Kerry and benefitted Bush? Please. Perhaps the examples that RFK jr. was going to show indicated that but to suggest such a one-sided bias is, simply, absurd. It's thoroughly documented, Shemp. He's not suggesting anything, he's telling you what the facts are. If it's NOT absurd, then why bother reading more anyway? He's pretty much told us what's going to be in the rest of the piece. Let RFK jr. write about the '60 election first...THEN I'll consider reading this one. Non sequitur. snip Sorry, I just don't buy it. River in Egypt. Let a NON partisan -- someone other than the fanatical RFK jr. -- champion this cause and maybe I'll give it more credence. Well, of course he isn't a fanatic. And of course you've ignored all the confirmation he's obtained from nonpartisan experts and Republicans (not to mention the one who hates Democrats). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). You ought to read the article. A great deal of the irregularities did not even involve the voting machines. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Late update: CNN's Wolf Blitzer had RFK Jr. on his show today discussing the article. Good for him. He'll almost certainly be on MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann (8:00 pm, rerun at midnight), if not tonight, then in the next week at some point. Olbermann was the only newscaster on cable *or* the networks to really focus on the voting problems and is quoted in the article. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Late update: CNN's Wolf Blitzer had RFK Jr. on his show today discussing the article. Good for him. He'll almost certainly be on MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann (8:00 pm, rerun at midnight), if not tonight, then in the next week at some point. Olbermann was the only newscaster on cable *or* the networks to really focus on the voting problems and is quoted in the article. And then maybe the ex-heroin addict can share some of his other kookie theories with MSNBC viewers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
Vaj wrote: On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well , all I can say is, if Bush and the Republicans have the power to rig the elections, the Democrats are totally screwed. Forget about 2006, much less 2008. Basically what this tells me is that really loyal Democrats are thinking in the backs of their minds, we need to think of a better way to rig the elections in our favor! If one party thinks they are being cheated and can't do anything about it, they most likely are going to look for a better way to cheat the other without getting caught. http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6 Check out the Greg Palast video. Also: make sure you're sitting down when you watch it... Spare rig will probably think he's watching Alan Watt without a Scottish accent. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). You ought to read the article. A great deal of the irregularities did not even involve the voting machines. No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so they need to be taken care of ASAP. Failure to do so, only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things also, IMHO. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea). You ought to read the article. A great deal of the irregularities did not even involve the voting machines. No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so they need to be taken care of ASAP. Well, of course they do. The point is there are very many more things that need to be taken care of as well, most of it low-tech. Failure to do so, only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things also, IMHO. Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
