[FairfieldLife] Re: Permit required for reincarnation

2007-08-03 Thread TurquoiseB
Falling bridges be damned. This has my vote as News 
Item Of The Week.

Nice find, Vaj.

But now I'm worried. If I don't apply for a permit
from the Chinese guvmint, am I outa here after
I croak? Bummer. Can I get out of the Bodhisattva
Vow thang on a technicality?  :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 China tells Tibet's living Buddhas to apply for reincarnation
 
 http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070803/tts-china-tibet-religion- 
 incarnation-a73cdd6.html
 
 AFP - Friday, August 3 BEIJING (AFP) - - Tibetan living Buddhas are  
 no longer allowed to be reincarnated without permission from the  
 atheist Chinese government, state media reported Friday.
 
 The new rules are an important move to institutionalise the  
 management of reincarnation of living Buddhas, the Xinhua news  
 agency said.
 
 According to the regulations, which take effect on September 1, all  
 reincarnation applications must be submitted to religious affairs  
 officials for approval, Xinhua said.
 
 China is ruled by the Communist Party, which, despite being  
 officially atheist, maintains strict controls over Tibetan Buddhism  
 and all other religions.
 
 Living Buddhas are an important element in Tibetan Buddhism, forming  
 a clergy of influential religious figures who are believed to be  
 continuously reincarnated to take up their positions anew.
 
 Often there is more than one candidate competing to be recognised as  
 the actual reincarnation, and the authority to decide who is the 
 true claimant carries significant power.
 
 This is especially true in the case of the Panchen Lama, the second- 
 most influential figure in Tibetan Buddhism behind the Dalai Lama.
 
 Chinese authorities detained the Dalai Lama's choice as the Panchen  
 Lama in 1995 when the boy was six years old, and he has not been 
 seen in public since.
 
 The Chinese government's choice as the Panchen Lama has meanwhile  
 been paraded around the country in recent years to promote China's  
 rule over his homeland.
 
 China sent troops in to liberate Tibet in 1951. The Dalai Lama  
 later fled to India in 1959 after a failed uprising and established 
 a government-in-exile in Dharamsala.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Permit required for reincarnation

2007-08-03 Thread Rory Goff
Here, let me control that for you! *lol* Classic, Vaj, thanks! :-)

*L*L*L*


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 China tells Tibet's living Buddhas to apply for reincarnation
 
 http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070803/tts-china-tibet-religion- 
 incarnation-a73cdd6.html
 
 AFP - Friday, August 3 BEIJING (AFP) - - Tibetan living Buddhas 
are  
 no longer allowed to be reincarnated without permission from the  
 atheist Chinese government, state media reported Friday.
 
 The new rules are an important move to institutionalise the  
 management of reincarnation of living Buddhas, the Xinhua news  
 agency said.
 
 According to the regulations, which take effect on September 1, 
all  
 reincarnation applications must be submitted to religious affairs  
 officials for approval, Xinhua said.
 
 China is ruled by the Communist Party, which, despite being  
 officially atheist, maintains strict controls over Tibetan 
Buddhism  
 and all other religions.
 
 Living Buddhas are an important element in Tibetan Buddhism, 
forming  
 a clergy of influential religious figures who are believed to be  
 continuously reincarnated to take up their positions anew.
 
 Often there is more than one candidate competing to be recognised 
as  
 the actual reincarnation, and the authority to decide who is the 
true  
 claimant carries significant power.
 
 This is especially true in the case of the Panchen Lama, the second-
 
 most influential figure in Tibetan Buddhism behind the Dalai Lama.
 
 Chinese authorities detained the Dalai Lama's choice as the 
Panchen  
 Lama in 1995 when the boy was six years old, and he has not been 
seen  
 in public since.
 
 The Chinese government's choice as the Panchen Lama has meanwhile  
 been paraded around the country in recent years to promote China's  
 rule over his homeland.
 
 China sent troops in to liberate Tibet in 1951. The Dalai Lama  
 later fled to India in 1959 after a failed uprising and established 
a  
 government-in-exile in Dharamsala.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Permit required for reincarnation

2007-08-03 Thread Vaj


On Aug 3, 2007, at 1:31 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Falling bridges be damned. This has my vote as News
Item Of The Week.

Nice find, Vaj.

But now I'm worried. If I don't apply for a permit
from the Chinese guvmint, am I outa here after
I croak? Bummer. Can I get out of the Bodhisattva
Vow thang on a technicality? :-)



You should be fine as long as you don't reincarnate in China or near  
Judy's reincarnation. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Permit required for reincarnation

2007-08-03 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 Falling bridges be damned. 

Reincarnation be damned. The historical Buddha didn't teach
reincarnation. In order to reincarnate, there must be an 
individual soul-monad to reincarnate. Get some smarts and
try reading a little Buddhist history. The Buddha taught
Causation - one thing leads to another. According to Marshy,
Tibetan Buddhism is 'far fetched'.

  China tells Tibet's living Buddhas to apply for 
  reincarnation
  





[FairfieldLife] Re: Permit required for reincarnation

2007-08-03 Thread tanhlnx
--Right. Some of the components of what made a body/mind in an 
incarnation of those components, reasserts themselves along with 
unfinished karma in a future embodiment.  Along with those impulses is 
a faint memory stored in some subtle dimension.  The persona next 
embodied having those living components, groks: that was a previous 
incarnation - as in Adi Da says that his deeper personality vehicle 
was the combined package of both Ramakrishna and Vivekananda; which is 
rather farfetched but OTOH some leftover impulses of Vivekananda seem 
to match Adi Da's present incarnation.
 Vivekananda hinted that he would reincarnate in the West. Adi Da 
claims to have become Enlightened while at the Ramakrishna Vedanta 
Temple in Hollywood, CA in 1970 (where I used to meditate frequently).
 At any rate, I side with the Buddhist perspective and therefore agree 
with the statements below; except of course for the commie meddling in 
spiritual affairs. The Chinese should stick to what they're doing best: 
polluting shrimps with PCB's and manufacturing lead based paints to 
poison children with toxic toys.
.
 BTW, Richard/willtex - still waiting for the MMY audios from 
Rishikesh. Can't wait to hear them. Thanks.
 
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 TurquoiseB wrote:
  Falling bridges be damned. 
 
 Reincarnation be damned. The historical Buddha didn't teach
 reincarnation. In order to reincarnate, there must be an 
 individual soul-monad to reincarnate. Get some smarts and
 try reading a little Buddhist history. The Buddha taught
 Causation - one thing leads to another. According to Marshy,
 Tibetan Buddhism is 'far fetched'.
 
   China tells Tibet's living Buddhas to apply for 
   reincarnation