[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
Akasha108 writes: big snip If a leader is a reflection of the consciousness of their citizens and Bush is mediocre -- Bush doesn't have *stature*, tragic flaws, isn't worthy of a history play, isn't an interesting personality, etc. then perhaps America is getting "enlightened" and is simply less attached to (any significance of) its imperfections, outer projections, and returning karma. And/or Bush is simply a "method" to help culture such an awareness in America's collective consciousness. Tom T: As a nation addicted to power and cheap oil we have the best leader we could ever want. Bush the addict is leading us down the slippery slope to the bottom that all addicts eventually find as the only way out. Who else to lead us all there but the epitome of the dangerous addict who will do anything he has to do to maintain his source. All addicts protect their source and the ability to satisfy the craving. Old Bushy here is in the same mode. Just watch him, clever and lying like hell to keep the whole deal rolling forward. We are along for the ride. Hope we all learn something and that it doesn't have to be total bottom for all of us. TOm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > Hard to imagine how anyone could have done more damage in 5 years as president. What are the top 10 most damaging things that you believe Bush has done over the past 5 years? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > on 10/8/05 5:18 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >And I am *truly* cynical enough to believe > > > that it may take a "wake up call" on the level of the > > > Great Depression Squared to shock most Americans out > > > of their self-involved lethargy -- politically, eco- > > > nomically, ecologically, and in terms of compassion > > > for their fellow man. > > > > It's probably coming. A number of probably things could trigger > > it, and Bush has done a crackerjack job setting us up for it. > > Hard to imagine how anyone > > could have done more damage in 5 years as president. > > Just wait for the next 3... Sadly, I fear you are right. Unlike Nixon, these people will not go quietly. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 10/8/05 5:18 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >And I am *truly* cynical enough to believe > > that it may take a "wake up call" on the level of the > > Great Depression Squared to shock most Americans out > > of their self-involved lethargy -- politically, eco- > > nomically, ecologically, and in terms of compassion > > for their fellow man. > > It's probably coming. A number of probably things could trigger it, and Bush > has done a crackerjack job setting us up for it. Hard to imagine how anyone > could have done more damage in 5 years as president. > Just wait for the next 3... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
I agree with every word you write here, Judy. I was thinking a few days ago of how Bush seems like a Nixon figure now. The indictments are closing in and he is looking increasingly isolated and desperate. He is simply a man who is not up to the job (although that part is not like Nixon). I saw Bush talk about Miers yesterday. First he said she was a "fantastic woman." Then he said she was "honest and open." These are things you might say when giving a reference for someone applying for a job as a salesclerk or something, not a Supreme Court nominee, who should have a first-class legal mind. Bush is a strange aberration in our history, and the sooner we are rid of him the better. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What cracks me up is to see conservatives saying > things like this (quote from Kathryn Jean Lopez > on the Corner, National Review Online's group > blog): > > "The president just took some questions. To > sum up his message: She's my girl. She's a > good girl. Trust me. > > "I hate this groaning-when-the-president-speaks > reflex I've had all week on this issue." > > We feel your pain, Kathryn. > > If they were just griping because Bush wasn't > conservative enough for them, it wouldn't be > so satisfying. But their disgust with the Miers > nomination (and some previous perceived failures > they were quieter about) has, it seems, finally > awakened them to what a shallow, arrogant, > petty, childish sad sack Bush is. > > Or maybe they saw that all along, but now they're > so pissed they've dropped the pretense. > > Don't know how many of you folks were politically > aware during Watergate, but it feels very much > like that--except that Bush is so much smaller a > figure than Nixon. As horrid as Nixon was, he > had a certain tragic dignity. In bringing him > down, there was a feeling of having accomplished > something significant, of having righted a major > wrong. He was Shakespearean in stature, a real > villain. > > Bush is something that never should have happened > in the first place, a stupid mistake. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051008/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_ap_poll > > > > WASHINGTON - Evangelicals, Republican women, > > Southerners and other critical groups in President > > Bush's political coalition are worried about the > > direction the nation is headed and disappointed with > > his performance, an AP-Ipsos poll found. > > > > That unease could be a troubling sign for a White > > House already struggling to keep the Republican Party > > base from slipping over Supreme Court nominee Harriet > > Miers, Gulf Coast spending projects, immigration and > > other issues. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Judy: > > > > > > That's why I say he's a mistake--it's as if the > > > > trends of time took a detour they weren't supposed > > > > to take and got stuck in a dead end. > > > > > > A: > > > Do you know that to be absolutely true? Where would you be > > > without that thought? > > > > > > If a leader is a reflection of the consciousness of their > > > citizens and Bush is mediocre -- Bush doesn't have *stature*, > > > tragic flaws, isn't worthy of a history play, isn't an > > > interesting personality, etc. then perhaps America is > > > getting "enlightened" and is simply less attached to (any > > > significance of) its imperfections, outer projections, and > > > returning karma. And/or Bush is simply a "method" > > > to help culture such an awareness in America's collective > > > consciousness. > > > > By golly, I never thought of it that way. Heaven on > > Earth is truly dawning before our very eyes! > > The operative word is "perhaps". And perhaps an OSF would have > helped clarify the intent of the thought. Clear to me. Very clever. > But its as substantial a theory as any others put forth. > Personally, I don't give great weight to any. By golly. I really wasn't proposing a theory, just trying to describe what the present climate *feels* like--i.e., on the feeling level--to me, and I suspect to many of my politically like-minded contemporaries. It's this huge sense of incongruity, like going after a flea with an elephant gun, but you *have* to, because the flea is causing such chaos and devastation. It's all way out of proportion. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
on 10/8/05 9:13 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>> And I am *truly* cynical enough to believe >>> that it may take a "wake up call" on the level of the >>> Great Depression Squared to shock most Americans out >>> of their self-involved lethargy -- politically, eco- >>> nomically, ecologically, and in terms of compassion >>> for their fellow man. >> >> How is this too much different from saying it will take the >> destruction of the French Quarter for a new world of light >> to dawn? > > I don't think I said that Americans *deserve* the > Great Depression Squared in a karmic sense (although > there is certainly a case to be made for that), or > that such an event would be the result of some kind > of "Natural Law," only that an event of that magni- > tude may be what is necessary to wake them up. > They're that far gone. I don't think that they'll > really do anything to change things until they're > starving in the streets. But I feel it's going to be global. Some doomsayers, whom part of me tends to believe, predict that we're on the verge of a culling which will kill off a majority of the world's population. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
on 10/8/05 5:18 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >And I am *truly* cynical enough to believe > that it may take a "wake up call" on the level of the > Great Depression Squared to shock most Americans out > of their self-involved lethargy -- politically, eco- > nomically, ecologically, and in terms of compassion > for their fellow man. It's probably coming. A number of probably things could trigger it, and Bush has done a crackerjack job setting us up for it. Hard to imagine how anyone could have done more damage in 5 years as president. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Judy: > > > > That's why I say he's a mistake--it's as if the > > > trends of time took a detour they weren't supposed > > > to take and got stuck in a dead end. > > > > A: > > Do you know that to be absolutely true? Where would you be without > > that thought? > > > > If a leader is a reflection of the consciousness of their citizens > > and Bush is mediocre -- Bush doesn't have *stature*, tragic flaws, > > isn't worthy of a history play, isn't an interesting personality, > > etc. then perhaps America is getting "enlightened" and is simply > > less attached to (any significance of) its imperfections, outer > > projections, and returning karma. And/or Bush is simply a "method" > > to help culture such an awareness in America's collective > > consciousness. > > By golly, I never thought of it that way. Heaven on > Earth is truly dawning before our very eyes! The operative word is "perhaps". And perhaps an OSF would have helped clarify the intent of the thought. But its as substantial a theory as any others put forth. Personally, I don't give great weight to any. By golly. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy: > > That's why I say he's a mistake--it's as if the > > trends of time took a detour they weren't supposed > > to take and got stuck in a dead end. > > A: > Do you know that to be absolutely true? Where would you be without > that thought? > > If a leader is a reflection of the consciousness of their citizens > and Bush is mediocre -- Bush doesn't have *stature*, tragic flaws, > isn't worthy of a history play, isn't an interesting personality, > etc. then perhaps America is getting "enlightened" and is simply > less attached to (any significance of) its imperfections, outer > projections, and returning karma. And/or Bush is simply a "method" > to help culture such an awareness in America's collective > consciousness. By golly, I never thought of it that way. Heaven on Earth is truly dawning before our very eyes! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And I am *truly* cynical enough to believe >> that it may take a "wake up call" on the level of the >> Great Depression Squared to shock most Americans out >> of their self-involved lethargy -- politically, eco- >> nomically, ecologically, and in terms of compassion >> for their fellow man. > > How is this too much different from saying it will take the > destruction of the French Quarter for a new world of light > to dawn? I don't think I said that Americans *deserve* the Great Depression Squared in a karmic sense (although there is certainly a case to be made for that), or that such an event would be the result of some kind of "Natural Law," only that an event of that magni- tude may be what is necessary to wake them up. They're that far gone. I don't think that they'll really do anything to change things until they're starving in the streets. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
Judy: > > > Bush is something that never should have happened > > > in the first place, a stupid mistake. Akasha: Does Nature make mistakes? >From a different angle, Bush is What IS. Is what IS a mistake? Or is our denial or marginalizing of what IS a mistake? Bob: > > Every group gets the government it deserves > > -- Bush is a mistake > > only in the sense that he is representative of a very mistaken > > people. Bush happened because the American people are, on average, > > as stupid as he is (turn on the TV any night if you doubt that), A: You must not be watching C-Span (including weekend book reviews), PBS, Discovery, some parts of MSNBC/C-Span/CNBC, History, Sundance, IFC, various quality hi-def films, etc. > > and they continue to channelize his thinking. Only higher > > consciousness among the populace will create a situation where > > more intelligent leaders ar ae enabled. A: Is collective consciousness thus declining -- with Bush? Unc: For once, Bob and I are in perfect agreement. The rest of the world perceives George W. Bush -- in my opinion correctly -- as the almost perfect embodi- ment of the collective consciousness of the American people. U: How to change that collective consciousness is another story. I'm still non-cynical enough to believe that if more people practiced meditation and self discovery it would have a tremendous effect. I *am* cynical enough to *not* believe that a bunch of people bouncing on their butts will affect it very :much, or that build- ing a bunch of overpriced pre-fab homes will affect it very much. U: And I am *truly* cynical enough to believe that it may take a "wake up call" on the level of the Great Depression Squared to shock most Americans out of their self-involved lethargy -- politically, eco- nomically, ecologically, and in terms of compassion for their fellow man. Akasha: How is this too much different from saying it will take the destruction of the French Quarter for a new world of light to dawn? Judy: > See, we *used* to have more intelligent leaders, > even if they were bad ones. That was why I was > comparing Bush with Nixon. > > Shakespeare could have written a play about Nixon; > he's a Richard III-type character. But Shakespeare > would never have written a play about Bush. He just > doesn't have the *stature*. Perhaps not a Tragedy. Perhaps a Comedy -- Much Ado About Nothing, Comedy of Errors. Or a Tragedy with theme of "faith/bravado over reason/compassion" and the ramifications of that. > There's more to it than > lack of intelligence (and he isn't stupid IQ-wise). > Bush doesn't have a tragic flaw; his flaws don't > rise to the level of tragedy. Bush wouldn't even > be worth writing a history play about because he > isn't an interesting enough personality. > > For that matter, Shakespeare could have written a > play about Clinton, or Lyndon Johnson, or Kennedy, > or Eisenhower, even Jimmy Carter, or Bush I. > > Bush is at the center of some of the most important > events and trends in American (and world) history. A: Points made in this thread: i) the leader is a reflection of the consciousness of their citizens ii) Bush is mediocre: Bush doesn't have *stature*, tragic flaws, isn't worthy of a history play, isn't an interesting personality. iii) Bush is at the center of some of the most important events and trends in American (and world) history. A: There is a contradiction here. J: > But he's just a cipher, an *absence*. There's no > there there. A: Like in "enlightened" people? > That's why I say he's a mistake--it's as if the > trends of time took a detour they weren't supposed > to take and got stuck in a dead end. A: Do you know that to be absolutely true? Where would you be without that thought? If a leader is a reflection of the consciousness of their citizens and Bush is mediocre -- Bush doesn't have *stature*, tragic flaws, isn't worthy of a history play, isn't an interesting personality, etc. then perhaps America is getting "enlightened" and is simply less attached to (any significance of) its imperfections, outer projections, and returning karma. And/or Bush is simply a "method" to help culture such an awareness in America's collective consciousness. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > SNIP> > > > Bush is something that never should have happened > > in the first place, a stupid mistake. > > > > > > Every group gets the government it deserves Yeah, that's a given. I was trying to get at something else entirely and having trouble articulating it. > -- Bush is a mistake > only in the sense that he is representative of a very mistaken > people. Bush happened because the American people are, on average, > as stupid as he is (turn on the TV any night if you doubt that), > and they continue to channelize his thinking. Only higher > consciousness among the populace will create a situation where more > intelligent leaders are enabled. See, we *used* to have more intelligent leaders, even if they were bad ones. That was why I was comparing Bush with Nixon. Shakespeare could have written a play about Nixon; he's a Richard III-type character. But Shakespeare would never have written a play about Bush. He just doesn't have the *stature*. There's more to it than lack of intelligence (and he isn't stupid IQ-wise). Bush doesn't have a tragic flaw; his flaws don't rise to the level of tragedy. Bush wouldn't even be worth writing a history play about because he isn't an interesting enough personality. For that matter, Shakespeare could have written a play about Clinton, or Lyndon Johnson, or Kennedy, or Eisenhower, even Jimmy Carter, or Bush I. Bush is at the center of some of the most important events and trends in American (and world) history. But he's just a cipher, an *absence*. There's no there there. If Shakespeare *had* to write a play about the Bush era, the main character would have to be Karl Rove, or perhaps Cheney; Bush would be a minor character. That's why I say he's a mistake--it's as if the trends of time took a detour they weren't supposed to take and got stuck in a dead end. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > SNIP> > > > Bush is something that never should have happened > > in the first place, a stupid mistake. > > > > Every group gets the government it deserves -- Bush is a mistake > only in the sense that he is representative of a very mistaken > people. Bush happened because the American people are, on average, > as stupid as he is (turn on the TV any night if you doubt that), > and they continue to channelize his thinking. Only higher > consciousness among the populace will create a situation where > more intelligent leaders are enabled. For once, Bob and I are in perfect agreement. The rest of the world perceives George W. Bush -- in my opinion correctly -- as the almost perfect embodi- ment of the collective consciousness of the American people. How to change that collective consciousness is another story. I'm still non-cynical enough to believe that if more people practiced meditation and self discovery it would have a tremendous effect. I *am* cynical enough to *not* believe that a bunch of people bouncing on their butts will affect it very much, or that build- ing a bunch of overpriced pre-fab homes will affect it very much. And I am *truly* cynical enough to believe that it may take a "wake up call" on the level of the Great Depression Squared to shock most Americans out of their self-involved lethargy -- politically, eco- nomically, ecologically, and in terms of compassion for their fellow man. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SNIP> > Bush is something that never should have happened > in the first place, a stupid mistake. > Every group gets the government it deserves -- Bush is a mistake only in the sense that he is representative of a very mistaken people. Bush happened because the American people are, on average, as stupid as he is (turn on the TV any night if you doubt that), and they continue to channelize his thinking. Only higher consciousness among the populace will create a situation where more intelligent leaders are enabled. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
What cracks me up is to see conservatives saying things like this (quote from Kathryn Jean Lopez on the Corner, National Review Online's group blog): "The president just took some questions. To sum up his message: She's my girl. She's a good girl. Trust me. "I hate this groaning-when-the-president-speaks reflex I've had all week on this issue." We feel your pain, Kathryn. If they were just griping because Bush wasn't conservative enough for them, it wouldn't be so satisfying. But their disgust with the Miers nomination (and some previous perceived failures they were quieter about) has, it seems, finally awakened them to what a shallow, arrogant, petty, childish sad sack Bush is. Or maybe they saw that all along, but now they're so pissed they've dropped the pretense. Don't know how many of you folks were politically aware during Watergate, but it feels very much like that--except that Bush is so much smaller a figure than Nixon. As horrid as Nixon was, he had a certain tragic dignity. In bringing him down, there was a feeling of having accomplished something significant, of having righted a major wrong. He was Shakespearean in stature, a real villain. Bush is something that never should have happened in the first place, a stupid mistake. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051008/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_ap_poll > > WASHINGTON - Evangelicals, Republican women, > Southerners and other critical groups in President > Bush's political coalition are worried about the > direction the nation is headed and disappointed with > his performance, an AP-Ipsos poll found. > > That unease could be a troubling sign for a White > House already struggling to keep the Republican Party > base from slipping over Supreme Court nominee Harriet > Miers, Gulf Coast spending projects, immigration and > other issues. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
