Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi meditation rare...in any discipline!
On Nov 13, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Peter wrote: Bliss is a relative phenomenon and has nothing to do with pure consciousness. Bliss is, actually, quite stupid. Transcendental bliss is inseparable. It is not a relative phenom unless the pranas haven't entered, dissolved and abided in the central channel. Non-relative bliss gives rise to clarity, radiance, transparency, and the reflection-like quality of consciousness, so that the bliss itself becomes the wisdom of nonduality. When you experience nonduality, you should recognize its blissful character as inseparable union. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi meditation rare...in any discipline!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you would not remember pure transcendence unless the mind was functioning along with that transcendence and that would be CC. What do you think the *infusion* of *Being* is, if not bliss? Bliss isn't blissful... That makes a lot of sense? And water isn't wet? The nature of Being IS Sat Chit Ananda contact of which is **Bliss**. (Ananda) Perhaps you're confusing Being and 'contact' with being which is blissful.? AbsoluteConscious..Bliss, this is the nature of Reality, which is the sublime experience one gets when one *transcends* relativity in TC (very rare, most people only get a glimpse). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi meditation rare...in any discipline!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/13/05 9:57 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely not. Pure Bliss is not happiness. Happiness is a relative phenomenon. To equate Being with relative happiness is just the terrified mind taking refuge in a concept as Being eats it alive. It keeps a person stuck in ignorance seeking an experience of pure consciousness. Probably most of us remember the lecture in which Maharishi says that bliss is not blissful, the point being that bliss is a relative quality and the Absolute is quality-less. Yeah, and while IN the field of bliss there is just being, so how can there be bliss until you come out of it? In CC there can be relative degrees of happiness, of course... Gads, unreal...Everybodies inner Being is pure happiness MMY. The Upanishads explain the Being in terms of Ananda, or bliss, and locate It at the source of creation in the transcendental region of life... MMY SOBAL Page 35. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi meditation rare...in any discipline!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/13/05 9:57 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely not. Pure Bliss is not happiness. Happiness is a relative phenomenon. To equate Being with relative happiness is just the terrified mind taking refuge in a concept as Being eats it alive. It keeps a person stuck in ignorance seeking an experience of pure consciousness. Probably most of us remember the lecture in which Maharishi says that bliss is not blissful, the point being that bliss is a relative quality and the Absolute is quality-less. No *relative* quality!!! Ananda is the descriptive term that defines that absolute Being, words will always fall short of the actual experience and quality of that Being, but ananda comes the closest to describing it. Yeah, and while IN the field of bliss there is just being, so how can there be bliss until you come out of it? No, not just Being.SAT, Chit, Ananda. In CC there can be relative degrees of happiness, of course... CC is the ultimate form of happiness, but like a picture can hold more water than a glass so the degree of happiness can be expanded yet the quality be essentially the same still water or (ananda). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi meditation rare...in any discipline!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/13/05 9:57 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Absolutely not. Pure Bliss is not happiness. Happiness is a relative phenomenon. To equate Being with relative happiness is just the terrified mind taking refuge in a concept as Being eats it alive. It keeps a person stuck in ignorance seeking an experience of pure consciousness. Probably most of us remember the lecture in which Maharishi says that bliss is not blissful, the point being that bliss is a relative quality and the Absolute is quality-less. No *relative* quality!!! Ananda is the descriptive term that defines that absolute Being, words will always fall short of the actual experience and quality of that Being, but ananda comes the closest to describing it. Yeah, and while IN the field of bliss there is just being, so how can there be bliss until you come out of it? No, not just Being.SAT, Chit, Ananda. Billyg, what do *you* think MMY means when he says Bliss isn't blissful? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi meditation rare...in any discipline!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/13/05 9:57 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Absolutely not. Pure Bliss is not happiness. Happiness is a relative phenomenon. To equate Being with relative happiness is just the terrified mind taking refuge in a concept as Being eats it alive. It keeps a person stuck in ignorance seeking an experience of pure consciousness. Probably most of us remember the lecture in which Maharishi says that bliss is not blissful, the point being that bliss is a relative quality and the Absolute is quality-less. No *relative* quality!!! Ananda is the descriptive term that defines that absolute Being, words will always fall short of the actual experience and quality of that Being, but ananda comes the closest to describing it. Yeah, and while IN the field of bliss there is just being, so how can there be bliss until you come out of it? No, not just Being.SAT, Chit, Ananda. Billyg, what do *you* think MMY means when he says Bliss isn't blissful? He was speaking of the nature of Brahman itself, he never meant to imply that *contact* with Brahman wasn't blissful. Brahman is that which cannot be expressed in words, even though the Upanishads use words to educate us about Its nature. MMY ChVI vs28 My whole point being, contact with being in transcendental consciousness (savikalpa samadhi) is an unmistakable blissful experience!!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi meditation rare...in any discipline!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Peter wrote: Bliss is a relative phenomenon and has nothing to do with pure consciousness. Bliss is, actually, quite stupid. Transcendental bliss is inseparable. It is not a relative phenom unless the pranas haven't entered, dissolved and abided in the central channel. Non-relative bliss gives rise to clarity, radiance, transparency, and the reflection-like quality of consciousness, so that the bliss itself becomes the wisdom of nonduality. When you experience nonduality, you should recognize its blissful character as inseparable union. Bingo!! Me and Vaj agree! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi meditation rare...in any discipline!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you would not remember pure transcendence unless the mind was functioning along with that transcendence and that would be CC. What do you think the *infusion* of *Being* is, if not bliss? Transcendence is no mantra, no thought. It is that gap between thoughts in meditation when the mind completely stops and the continuity of the thought process is broken as it transcends and then comes out into a completely different thought stream. It is then that the mind notices the difference between the thought streams and recognizes the transcendent as a gap. People are transcending all the time in TM, it's just that the mind thinks that it is supposed to have some sort of experience.` The nature of the Being is pure bliss (happiness). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi meditation rare...in any discipline!
--- wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you would not remember pure transcendence unless the mind was functioning along with that transcendence and that would be CC. What do you think the *infusion* of *Being* is, if not bliss? Bliss is a relative phenomenon and has nothing to do with pure consciousness. Bliss is, actually, quite stupid. Transcendence is no mantra, no thought. It is that gap between thoughts in meditation when the mind completely stops and the continuity of the thought process is broken as it transcends and then comes out into a completely different thought stream. It is then that the mind notices the difference between the thought streams and recognizes the transcendent as a gap. People are transcending all the time in TM, it's just that the mind thinks that it is supposed to have some sort of experience.` The nature of the Being is pure bliss (happiness). Absolutely not. Pure Bliss is not happiness. Happiness is a relative phenomenon. To equate Being with relative happiness is just the terrified mind taking refuge in a concept as Being eats it alive. It keeps a person stuck in ignorance seeking an experience of pure consciousness. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi meditation rare...in any discipline!
Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bliss is, actually, quite stupid. Well, I was talking to Bliss the other day and it said Peter was stupid. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi meditation rare...in any discipline!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/13/05 9:57 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely not. Pure Bliss is not happiness. Happiness is a relative phenomenon. To equate Being with relative happiness is just the terrified mind taking refuge in a concept as Being eats it alive. It keeps a person stuck in ignorance seeking an experience of pure consciousness. Probably most of us remember the lecture in which Maharishi says that bliss is not blissful, the point being that bliss is a relative quality and the Absolute is quality-less. Yeah, and while IN the field of bliss there is just being, so how can there be bliss until you come out of it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi meditation rare...in any discipline!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you would not remember pure transcendence unless the mind was functioning along with that transcendence and that would be CC. What do you think the *infusion* of *Being* is, if not bliss? Bliss isn't blissful... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
