[FairfieldLife] Re: mind is mad/insane

2008-05-01 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Perfect Madness: From Awakening to
Enlightenment by Donna Lee Gorrell (daughter of THE famous jazz
musician of the same middle name)

I was naive when my spiritual journey began, I wanted growth without
change, wisdom without experience, security without sacrifice, and
life without death. I wanted to swim in the waters of eternity without
getting wet. Instead, I found myself immersed in unfathomable darkness
with no trace of where I'd been and no glimmer of where to go, lost in
the void of my own mind and convinced I was going crazy. I had no way
of knowing I was on the path to enlightenment.

We find ourselves slipping deeper into uncharted layers of
consciousness. Our comfort zone of sameness feels violated. One moment
our mind is flooded with understanding; the next on the brink of
insanity. Self-doubt permeates our being, and we experience symptoms
paralleling mental illness, even borderline psychosis. We wonder if
the only difference between insanity and sanity lies in the ability to
BE crazy without ACTING crazy.


From Jean Klein Transmission of the Flame page 65 
...We have very often repeated that the seeker is the sought. An
object is a fraction; it appears in your wholeness, in your globality.
When you really come to the understanding that the seeker is the
sought, there is a natural giving-up of all energy to find something.
It is an instantaneous apperception. I don't say perception, because
in perception there is a perceiver and something perceived. An
apperception is an instantaneous perceiving of what is perceiving. So
it can never be in relation of subject-object, just as an eye can
never see its own seeing. ...you will find a glimpse of
non-subject-object relationship. This glimpse is seen with your whole
intelligence, which is there in the absence of the person, the
thinker, the doer. Understanding, being the understanding, is
enlightenment




[FairfieldLife] Re: mind is mad/insane

2008-04-29 Thread amarnath
like Amma says:

anyone who has a mind/ego is mad/insane because the mind/ego is
madness/insanity

that's the nature of the egoic mind !


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Angela,

 I think Laws of Form and The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
 are about all one needs to see how challenging it is to be a knower of
 reality.

 First of all, no one with less than, say, 140 I.Q. can even understand
 the math of Laws let alone apply those truths to the soft
 disciplines, and secondly, no one can overcome the problem of waiting
 for old farts to die without having extraordinary charisma or other
 rare thingie going for them.

 Hawking's disability may have actually helped him have more street
 cred since he obviously was virtually possessed with a desire for
 truth and, well, he not only didn't have anything better to do, it was
 the ONLY thing he could do.  (...ignoring his divorces, his love/hate
 relationships with his helpers, etc. but of course.)

 Einstein et al were brains as rare as lottery wins, and even so, they
 took decades to get their ideas out there and being taught to the
 masses.  If Einstein and Bohr were alive today, they'd still be
 hacking at each other's theories by rolling Hawkings' wheelchair
 viciously back and forth in a game of pong between them.

 And then, of course, no matter the size of the intellect, nukes get
 invented and used, death rays get invented and used, and on and on --
 high I.Q. seems to have almost no correlation with morality, and hey,
 toss in the gifted artists of the world and there's no correlation
 with morality there either -- Hitler was not a bad artist, Nero could
 play the violin!  (ahem.)

 I still love Maharishi's saying, Getting a PhD is no guarantee -- one
 could still be insane.  Indeed, many mad scientists WERE insane --
 Cavendish could not stand the presence of a woman -- though he
 employed many in his household -- would fire any woman on the spot if
 he bumped into one mistakenly in his manse.  Yet he weighed the Earth
 itself and discovered Hydrogen.  And Fritz Haber, a nobel prize
 winner, invented a new and wonderful method for Germany to make poison
 gas and is rightly called the father of chemical warfare.  Later, when
 he fled Nazi Germany and landed in England, the welcoming group of
 famous scientists refused to shake his hand alone of all the other
 scientists who escaped Germany in the same boat as Haber.  Issac
 Asimov said, Science has known sin now.

 And inside this box, right here, is a cat.  There's no way to tell if
 the cat is alive or dead unless you open the box.  And whether or not
 we can ever know the answer without opening the box is a problem that
 divides physics right down the middle even today.

 Sigh.

 Edg





 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
 mailander111@ wrote:
 
  Having spent my entire adult life in universities, the
  fact that there is no academic freedom is more than
  obvious to me.  I've said this many times before on
  this list.  It is true in the humanities and it is
  true in the sciences.  Everyone has heard of Thomas
  Kuhn's book, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
  (1962), and the process is exactly the one discussed
  in the first video: evidence contrary to the current
  paradigm is ignored.  And when it gets overwhelming,
  it gets suppressed because careers depend on the
  current paradigm.  Think about it:  you'd have to
  re-educate your comfortable old self, your
  publications and your lecture notes would be obsolete,
  and you would be a sorry-ass has-been. So the whole
  book about how scientific revolutions occur can be
  summed up as follows: old farts die.
 
  The video says that the conspiracy to cover up
  evidence to the contrary of the current paradigm isn't
  deliberate--well, I don't know enough about what goes
  on in the sciences (other than linguistics) to have
  much more than a suspicion, but in the humanities
  (including and especially in linguistics), I am sure
  it is deliberate--in that area I've done my homework.
  Contrary to Judy's opinion, however, I am not a
  conspiracy theorist.  When the evidence is
  overwhelming, it's no longer a theory.  One piece of
  evidence is only a point.  Two points, and you can
  draw a line.  Three points, and you've got a field in
  which the points multiply exponentially and yield a
  rich and revealing harvest.
 
 
 
  --- Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
 
   Why haven't we heard about this evidence before?
   Perhaps because the other evidence is so
   overwhelming?
  
   --- Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
   wrote:
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
no_reply@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
   hugheshugo
 richardhughes103@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John
jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   To All:
  
   See this show (Forbidden Archeology),
   narrated
by Charleton