Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Guru Dev's support of Maharishi
On Jun 30, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Rick Archer wrote:Also, and this relates to the recent non-dual thread, many people have “attained” higher states of consciousness. Many in Unity and Brahman. So it has borne fruit abundantly. *But can they play Quidditch?* __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Guru Dev's support of Maharishi
In a message dated 6/30/06 4:58:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED].com> wrote:> on 6/30/06 9:34 AM, jim_flanegin at> [EMAIL PROTECTED]net wrote:> > > > Could be, and I don't post to support or reject> your position. The> > one major element that seems inconsistent in all> of this talk about> > Maharishi being a sham and a scam and a poseur,> is, if this is all> > true, why does Bramananda Saraswati [Guru Dev]> continue to make> > himself available, through Maharishi's teaching?> > > > Since He does, both through the puja, and also> direct experience, it> > would seem that He is tacitly supporting> Maharishi. Or at the very> > least blessing the knowledge Maharishi is> spreading.> > > I, for one, never argue that MMY is a sham and a> scam. Maybe a poseur, but> not the other two. Many people, myself included,> have benefited tremendously> from his teaching. I shudder to think what would> have happened to me if I> hadn¹t stumbled upon it. Also, and this relates to> the recent non-dual> thread, many people have ³attained² higher states of> consciousness. Many in> Unity and Brahman. So it has borne fruit abundantly.People want their gurus to be ego-friendly andsugar-coated. Some are, some aren't. MMY likes to kickour punk-ass-bitch attachments. Oh boo-hoo-hoo. MMYshowed me his pecker...boo-hoo-hoo...MMY didn't smileat me in the right way...boo-hoo-hoo...my soup wascold on my TTCboo hoo hooMMY yelled at me inpublic Kind of funny, I remember M telling us on my TTC in Majorca that There were times when Guru Dev used to "beat him on the head" when he did something wrong. We took it that he meant chewed him out as opposed to physically beat him. That gave many the impression that Guru Dev must have had a temper or he gave the appearance of having a temper to use for motivating those that needed that stimulus. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Guru Dev's support of Maharishi
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/30/06 9:34 AM, jim_flanegin at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Could be, and I don't post to support or reject > your position. The > > one major element that seems inconsistent in all > of this talk about > > Maharishi being a sham and a scam and a poseur, > is, if this is all > > true, why does Bramananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] > continue to make > > himself available, through Maharishi's teaching? > > > > Since He does, both through the puja, and also > direct experience, it > > would seem that He is tacitly supporting > Maharishi. Or at the very > > least blessing the knowledge Maharishi is > spreading. > > > I, for one, never argue that MMY is a sham and a > scam. Maybe a poseur, but > not the other two. Many people, myself included, > have benefited tremendously > from his teaching. I shudder to think what would > have happened to me if I > hadn¹t stumbled upon it. Also, and this relates to > the recent non-dual > thread, many people have ³attained² higher states of > consciousness. Many in > Unity and Brahman. So it has borne fruit abundantly. People want their gurus to be ego-friendly and sugar-coated. Some are, some aren't. MMY likes to kick our punk-ass-bitch attachments. Oh boo-hoo-hoo. MMY showed me his pecker...boo-hoo-hoo...MMY didn't smile at me in the right way...boo-hoo-hoo...my soup was cold on my TTCboo hoo hooMMY yelled at me in public > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Guru Dev's support of Maharishi
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Guru Dev's support of Maharishi on 6/30/06 9:34 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could be, and I don't post to support or reject your position. The one major element that seems inconsistent in all of this talk about Maharishi being a sham and a scam and a poseur, is, if this is all true, why does Bramananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] continue to make himself available, through Maharishi's teaching? Since He does, both through the puja, and also direct experience, it would seem that He is tacitly supporting Maharishi. Or at the very least blessing the knowledge Maharishi is spreading. I, for one, never argue that MMY is a sham and a scam. Maybe a poseur, but not the other two. Many people, myself included, have benefited tremendously from his teaching. I shudder to think what would have happened to me if I hadn’t stumbled upon it. Also, and this relates to the recent non-dual thread, many people have “attained” higher states of consciousness. Many in Unity and Brahman. So it has borne fruit abundantly. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Guru Dev's support of Maharishi
On Jun 30, 2006, at 11:16 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:It *would* make a great sequel-- But it doesn't address my question...I wasn't speaking about Maharishi's material wealth, more Guru Dev's support of Maharishi's knowledge, and the ability to directly contact Him (Guru Dev) through as a result of that knowledge. Presumably that would be possible through the yantra.But anyone can invoke a lineage or do guru yoga--it's beyond the person. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Guru Dev's support of Maharishi
On Jun 30, 2006, at 10:34 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 6/29/06 8:19 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You got nothing. You are just looking for attention, but will find something to make up that is totally unsubstantiated and uncorroborated by the majority of the people who were there. That's true, because the majority who were there weren't in the inner circle. But those in the inner circle soon learned that MMY's private and public personae were quite different. This discovery caused the majority of MMY's personal secretaries to leave the movement. __ Thanks for mentioning this, I think this important point is not mentioned enough. As word leaked out about his duplicity it helped many make the decision to split. Once you knew the public side was essentially a front, a facade and M. a poseur, you realize it's just a business. That's one of the reasons many believe the words attributed to Guru Dev when he said 'go to the mountains to meditate, you'll never be good at anything other than making money.' (huge paraphrase). "Mahesh has been interested in power, in the accumulation of money, and in women. Why does he live in a big house, own helicopters, airplanes, etc? Why does he spend most of his time involved in business planning about making money? It is because he is a businessman who has the desires that other wealthy businessmen have. His spiritual front is his scam and the way he gets people to give him their time and money." --Earl Kaplan Could be, and I don't post to support or reject your position. The one major element that seems inconsistent in all of this talk about Maharishi being a sham and a scam and a poseur, is, if this is all true, why does Bramananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] continue to make himself available, through Maharishi's teaching? Since He does, both through the puja, and also direct experience, it would seem that He is tacitly supporting Maharishi. Or at the very least blessing the knowledge Maharishi is spreading. IIRC it was Earl who actually went to India and spoke to old students of Guru Dev's who were still living. They said that Mahesh had stolen GD's ruby Sri Yantra and had found out how to activate the elemental/material bhupur--the outermost chakra of the yantra for material gain and worldly power.Of course in order to use that power for material gain, it would be best to have *physical* object, like a yantra to use.That's one theory. :-) (It'd also make a great Indiana Jones sequel!). __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
