Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
particularly one that claims to have ultimate and extra special knowledge On Sat, 2/15/14, salyavin808 wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 6:26 PM You don't need any leader to be a cult. All you need is a belief system that sets you apart from the norm. cult [kuhlt] noun1.a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.2.an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.3.the object of such devotion.4.a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc. I think the belief in unified fields of consciousness being affected by your meditation for the benefit of all mankind sets you out as a cult, and that's before you get to the secret language and belief in Marshy's ultimate knowledge of life through vedic literature. We all got duped into believing it, it's how cults work, the separation from normal society, the peer group that already believes. These things work to produce fellow believers, it's only amtter of time before new meditator quits or gets to learn the lingo and becomes "one of us". At our academy, and I doubt US ones were any different, we had special weekends for new meditators where the food was more normal than typical movement muck and the language and tapes were for beginners, to get them into it gently without scaring them off. I'm not saying that Marshy and the TMO sat there with a copy of "How to start a cult" but all the methods of indoctrination are understood by sociologists and they are all present.The first ploy is to always give "knowledge" lectures after meditating when the mind is at its most relaxed and pliable. You soak it up like a sponge, they even tell you not to think about it but to let it sink in unconsciously. Hmm, maybe they do have a copy of How to start a cult... But the TMO can't be classed as a destructive cult, they never make any attempt to split up families or harass former members. But it does take quite some time to deprogramme yourself from all the absurd and incredible beliefs that you pick up without realising when your defences are down.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
You don't need any leader to be a cult. All you need is a belief system that sets you apart from the norm. cult [kuhlt] noun 1. a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies. 2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/physical+fitness cult. 3. the object http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/object of such devotion. 4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc. I think the belief in unified fields of consciousness being affected by your meditation for the benefit of all mankind sets you out as a cult, and that's before you get to the secret language and belief in Marshy's ultimate knowledge of life through vedic literature. We all got duped into believing it, it's how cults work, the separation from normal society, the peer group that already believes. These things work to produce fellow believers, it's only amtter of time before new meditator quits or gets to learn the lingo and becomes "one of us". At our academy, and I doubt US ones were any different, we had special weekends for new meditators where the food was more normal than typical movement muck and the language and tapes were for beginners, to get them into it gently without scaring them off. I'm not saying that Marshy and the TMO sat there with a copy of "How to start a cult" but all the methods of indoctrination are understood by sociologists and they are all present. The first ploy is to always give "knowledge" lectures after meditating when the mind is at its most relaxed and pliable. You soak it up like a sponge, they even tell you not to think about it but to let it sink in unconsciously. Hmm, maybe they do have a copy of How to start a cult... But the TMO can't be classed as a destructive cult, they never make any attempt to split up families or harass former members. But it does take quite some time to deprogramme yourself from all the absurd and incredible beliefs that you pick up without realising when your defences are down.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
On 2/15/2014 7:02 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: And we don't hardly see the gold hats and robes around much outside of a small circle deep inside at the top. > Most people in Fairfield and in the TMO probably don't see very many of the MUM administrators, and probably only see and interact with a few instructors - if someone is enrolled in a course. So, I'd say that someone working on staff in the cafeteria a decade ago probably wouldn't be knowing very much about the coming-and-goings of anybody wearing a gold hat and a robe around Fairfield. Apparently "Michael H. Jackson" is an informant - a former "TM junkie who feels learning TM was one of the biggest mistakes he ever made." Go figure. 'Maharishi Marketing Time Line' Posted by Laurie at 2/09/2014 12:40:00 PM http://tmfree.blogspot.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
agin On Sat, 2/15/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 4:14 PM Heck TM does not even have a charismatic leader or leadership anymore. WE got administrators. It is kind of hard to have a cult without a charismatic leader that you could point to. That is defining of cults. Please see FFL post# 370565 . No, people become meditators and then freely participating in this organization because they like meditation and appreciate all the good that the transcendent meditative state provides everyone individually and collectively. Our meditating organization is here to facilitate that good. That facilitating in our case now is the work of good in progress by our new incorporation as meditators. Our corporation as it always has been is certainly about affecting a positive revolutionary radical change in all of society for everybody. Most of us in TM are pretty clear about that. Are you with us or against us in this? -U.S. Buck in the Dome MJ, See Weber's comments on 'cult' in Melton's Intro to The Postcharismatic Fate of New Religious Movements:http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370565 MJ, Your thesis around TM being a 'cult' has a problem in that we in TM no longer have a charismatic leader of TM. We are either administrators or meditators in TM and anyone in TM is enfranchised by a little of both under Maharishi's Absolute Theories of Management and Government. You clearly are full of your own personal BS and have your ax grinding about something. I feels a sorrow for thee in thy lack of peace around this.-Buck “Which would you rather experience: living the paradox or understanding it to your satisfaction?” Not either position is mutually exclusive, or that there is a third possibility of both. MJ writes: You need to read up on what cults actually are before you make such statements. Nope, not a cult. TM now as a corporation obviously is not a cult any more than any modern productive working corporation of employees is a 'cult'. TM and meditators as a community now are just like airline corporation employee pilots of an airline company. And they might go fly for their work wearing funny looking hats and coats too where they would go to work and pilot an airliner. And those lesser employees too as part of the corporate team who organize a flight as a gate agent or direct people as flight attendants or load luggage or maintain the corporation equipment. TM is as very modern as is any corporation in 'cult' -ure, as Maharishi himself particularly set that in motion now. TM now is not hardly as bad as you portray it. It is rapidly becoming more modern and scientific as it is of vedic origin in corporation all the time. And we don't hardly see the gold hats and robes around much outside of a small circle deep inside at the top. If there is a cult it is possibly at that level to see but you can see a lot of them avoiding the caps and robes when they can.-Buck MJwrites:You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a cult than it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious observance and holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting too much sheep dip. Shame on you MHJ. Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you Spread Wide and Spread Thick here, MHJ. This TM now is not a “cult” no more as much as you might like to declare that it is. As we used to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a 'cult' like christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way too dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and the evident scientific spiritual value of meditation”.MJ, there is something malevolent in what you do to something that is so good in itself as what is simply transcending meditation. In this new corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation is plainly now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I appreciate that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to the hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you are out of it.-Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults. The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I shall begin a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
Heck TM does not even have a charismatic leader or leadership anymore. WE got administrators. It is kind of hard to have a cult without a charismatic leader that you could point to. That is defining of cults. Please see FFL post# 370565 . No, people become meditators and then freely participating in this organization because they like meditation and appreciate all the good that the transcendent meditative state provides everyone individually and collectively. Our meditating organization is here to facilitate that good. That facilitating in our case now is the work of good in progress by our new incorporation as meditators. Our corporation as it always has been is certainly about affecting a positive revolutionary radical change in all of society for everybody. Most of us in TM are pretty clear about that. Are you with us or against us in this? -U.S. Buck in the Dome MJ, See Weber's comments on 'cult' in Melton's Intro to The Postcharismatic Fate of New Religious Movements: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370565 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370565 MJ, Your thesis around TM being a 'cult' has a problem in that we in TM no longer have a charismatic leader of TM. We are either administrators or meditators in TM and anyone in TM is enfranchised by a little of both under Maharishi's Absolute Theories of Management and Government. You clearly are full of your own personal BS and have your ax grinding about something. I feels a sorrow for thee in thy lack of peace around this. -Buck “Which would you rather experience: living the paradox or understanding it to your satisfaction?” Not either position is mutually exclusive, or that there is a third possibility of both. MJ writes: You need to read up on what cults actually are before you make such statements. Nope, not a cult. TM now as a corporation obviously is not a cult any more than any modern productive working corporation of employees is a 'cult'. TM and meditators as a community now are just like airline corporation employee pilots of an airline company. And they might go fly for their work wearing funny looking hats and coats too where they would go to work and pilot an airliner. And those lesser employees too as part of the corporate team who organize a flight as a gate agent or direct people as flight attendants or load luggage or maintain the corporation equipment. TM is as very modern as is any corporation in 'cult' -ure, as Maharishi himself particularly set that in motion now. TM now is not hardly as bad as you portray it. It is rapidly becoming more modern and scientific as it is of vedic origin in corporation all the time. And we don't hardly see the gold hats and robes around much outside of a small circle deep inside at the top. If there is a cult it is possibly at that level to see but you can see a lot of them avoiding the caps and robes when they can. -Buck MJwrites:You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a cult than it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious observance and holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting too much sheep dip. Shame on you MHJ. Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you Spread Wide and Spread Thick here, MHJ. This TM now is not a “cult” no more as much as you might like to declare that it is. As we used to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a 'cult' like christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way too dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and the evident scientific spiritual value of meditation”. MJ, there is something malevolent in what you do to something that is so good in itself as what is simply transcending meditation. In this new corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation is plainly now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I appreciate that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to the hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you are out of it. -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults. The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so they don't support cults. On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM The Transcendental Meditative State of Con
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
MJ, See Weber's comments on 'cult' in Melton's Intro to The Postcharismatic Fate of New Religious Movements: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370565 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370565 Your thesis around TM being a 'cult' has a problem in that we in TM no longer have a charismatic leader of TM. We are either administrators or meditators in TM and anyone in TM is enfranchised by a little of both under Maharishi's Absolute Theories of Management and Government. You clearly are full of your own personal BS and have your ax grinding about something. I feels a sorrow for thee in thy lack of peace around this. -Buck “Which would you rather experience: living the paradox or understanding it to your satisfaction?” Not either position is mutually exclusive, or that there is a third possibility of both. MJ writes: You need to read up on what cults actually are before you make such statements. Nope, not a cult. TM now as a corporation obviously is not a cult any more than any modern productive working corporation of employees is a 'cult'. TM and meditators as a community now are just like airline corporation employee pilots of an airline company. And they might go fly for their work wearing funny looking hats and coats too where they would go to work and pilot an airliner. And those lesser employees too as part of the corporate team who organize a flight as a gate agent or direct people as flight attendants or load luggage or maintain the corporation equipment. TM is as very modern as is any corporation in 'cult' -ure, as Maharishi himself particularly set that in motion now. TM now is not hardly as bad as you portray it. It is rapidly becoming more modern and scientific as it is of vedic origin in corporation all the time. And we don't hardly see the gold hats and robes around much outside of a small circle deep inside at the top. If there is a cult it is possibly at that level to see but you can see a lot of them avoiding the caps and robes when they can. -Buck MJwrites:You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a cult than it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious observance and holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting too much sheep dip. Shame on you MHJ. Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you Spread Wide and Spread Thick here, MHJ. This TM now is not a “cult” no more as much as you might like to declare that it is. As we used to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a 'cult' like christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way too dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and the evident scientific spiritual value of meditation”. MJ, there is something malevolent in what you do to something that is so good in itself as what is simply transcending meditation. In this new corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation is plainly now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I appreciate that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to the hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you are out of it. -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults. The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so they don't support cults. On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
But big deal, they are selling yet another nostrum for those whose faith never dies - I guess they will trot out some vaidya clown to claim the ancient texts say that drinking this coffee is good for meditation. On Sat, 2/15/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 1:02 PM Nope, not a cult. TM now as a corporation obviously is not a cult any more than any modern productive working corporation of employees is a 'cult'. TM and meditators as a community now are just like airline corporation employee pilots of an airline company. And they might go fly for their work wearing funny looking hats and coats too where they would go to work and pilot an airliner. And those lesser employees too as part of the corporate team who organize a flight as a gate agent or direct people as flight attendants or load luggage or maintain the corporation equipment. TM is as very modern as is any corporation in 'cult' -ure, as Maharishi himself particularly set that in motion now. TM now is not hardly as bad as you portray it. It is rapidly becoming more modern and scientific as it is of vedic origin in corporation all the time. And we don't hardly see the gold hats and robes around much outside of a small circle deep inside at the top. If there is a cult it is possibly at that level to see but you can see a lot of them avoiding the caps and robes when they can.-Buck MJwrites:You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a cult than it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious observance and holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting too much sheep dip. Shame on you MHJ. Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you Spread Wide and Spread Thick here, MHJ. This TM now is not a “cult” no more as much as you might like to declare that it is. As we used to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a 'cult' like christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way too dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and the evident scientific spiritual value of meditation”.MJ, there is something malevolent in what you do to something that is so good in itself as what is simply transcending meditation. In this new corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation is plainly now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I appreciate that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to the hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you are out of it.-Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults. The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so they don't support cults. On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a cult than it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious observance and holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting too much sheep dip. "Cult" can be just another word for family. Or community. Or support system. Question, which of these do not involve cult characteristics: The military Life in a monastery Life in a fraternity or sorority membership in the Masons membership in a gang life in FF Iowa I think the word "cult" is so loaded and has taken on such negative connotations that people can fail to see the few positive aspects of what cults are. For many, it is just a way of life, a way to stay feeling secure and a vehicle to stay surrounded by like-minded others. It isn't always a group headed by a brainwashing "leader" who controls everyone's every move - but it can be. I think lots of people seek out places where they feel like they are respected, understood, accepted and where common interests are pursued. These are just some of the insecurities and "weaknesses" that humans exhibit in various ways and at various times. I am not defending the TMO or cults, just saying that the word "cult" is often used to trigger a reaction, just as is the word "religion". On Sat, 2/15/14, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:49 AM Shame on you MHJ. Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you Spread Wide and spread Thick here, MHJ. This TM now is not a “cult” no more as much as you might like to declare that it is. As we used to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a 'cult' like christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way too dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and the evident scientific spiritual value of meditation”. MJ, there is something malevolent in what you do to something that is so good in itself as what is simply transcending meditation. In this new corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation is plainly now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I appreciate that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to the hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you are out of it. -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults. The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so they don't support cults. On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace
You need to read up on what cults actually are before you make such statements. On Sat, 2/15/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 1:02 PM Nope, not a cult. TM now as a corporation obviously is not a cult any more than any modern productive working corporation of employees is a 'cult'. TM and meditators as a community now are just like airline corporation employee pilots of an airline company. And they might go fly for their work wearing funny looking hats and coats too where they would go to work and pilot an airliner. And those lesser employees too as part of the corporate team who organize a flight as a gate agent or direct people as flight attendants or load luggage or maintain the corporation equipment. TM is as very modern as is any corporation in 'cult' -ure, as Maharishi himself particularly set that in motion now. TM now is not hardly as bad as you portray it. It is rapidly becoming more modern and scientific as it is of vedic origin in corporation all the time. And we don't hardly see the gold hats and robes around much outside of a small circle deep inside at the top. If there is a cult it is possibly at that level to see but you can see a lot of them avoiding the caps and robes when they can.-Buck MJwrites:You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a cult than it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious observance and holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting too much sheep dip. Shame on you MHJ. Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you Spread Wide and Spread Thick here, MHJ. This TM now is not a “cult” no more as much as you might like to declare that it is. As we used to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a 'cult' like christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way too dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and the evident scientific spiritual value of meditation”.MJ, there is something malevolent in what you do to something that is so good in itself as what is simply transcending meditation. In this new corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation is plainly now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I appreciate that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to the hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you are out of it.-Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults. The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so they don't support cults. On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/
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Nope, not a cult. TM now as a corporation obviously is not a cult any more than any modern productive working corporation of employees is a 'cult'. TM and meditators as a community now are just like airline corporation employee pilots of an airline company. And they might go fly for their work wearing funny looking hats and coats too where they would go to work and pilot an airliner. And those lesser employees too as part of the corporate team who organize a flight as a gate agent or direct people as flight attendants or load luggage or maintain the corporation equipment. TM is as very modern as is any corporation in 'cult' -ure, as Maharishi himself particularly set that in motion now. TM now is not hardly as bad as you portray it. It is rapidly becoming more modern and scientific as it is of vedic origin in corporation all the time. And we don't hardly see the gold hats and robes around much outside of a small circle deep inside at the top. If there is a cult it is possibly at that level to see but you can see a lot of them avoiding the caps and robes when they can. -Buck MJwrites:You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a cult than it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious observance and holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting too much sheep dip. Shame on you MHJ. Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you Spread Wide and Spread Thick here, MHJ. This TM now is not a “cult” no more as much as you might like to declare that it is. As we used to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a 'cult' like christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way too dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and the evident scientific spiritual value of meditation”. MJ, there is something malevolent in what you do to something that is so good in itself as what is simply transcending meditation. In this new corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation is plainly now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I appreciate that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to the hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you are out of it. -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults. The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so they don't support cults. On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
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You are right Buck, the TMO IS different now - it is much more of a cult than it was when I started in 1974. If you can look at these idiots wearing robes and gold crowns who practice and follow every Hindu religious observance and holiday and not see it as a cult, then you have been snorting too much sheep dip. On Sat, 2/15/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 5:49 AM Shame on you MHJ. Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you Spread Wide and spread Thick here, MHJ. This TM now is not a “cult” no more as much as you might like to declare that it is. As we used to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a 'cult' like christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way too dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and the evident scientific spiritual value of meditation”.MJ, there is something malevolent in what you do to something that is so good in itself as what is simply transcending meditation. In this new corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation is plainly now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I appreciate that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to the hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you are out of it. -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults. The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so they don't support cults. On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/
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Shame on you MHJ. Om, First-Class Bull-Manure you Spread Wide and spread Thick here, MHJ. This TM now is not a “cult” no more as much as you might like to declare that it is. As we used to explain in the olde days, “Om no, TM is not a 'cult' like christian cults or the people's-temple may be; TM is way too dis-organized to be that. . It's about meditation and the evident scientific spiritual value of meditation”. MJ, there is something malevolent in what you do to something that is so good in itself as what is simply transcending meditation. In this new corporate-post-charismantic-era, Transcendental Meditation is plainly now different. Your commentary is clearly out of date. I appreciate that it takes a long time for the current news to travel to the hollers and plantations of South Carolina but clearly you are out of it. -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods (sic) so they don't support cults. The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so they don't support cults. On Fri, 2/14/14, Buck> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/
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Marshy's boys don't get anything from Yogi Tea so I don't care On Sat, 2/15/14, Richard J. Williams wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 2:13 AM On 2/14/2014 6:37 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole > Goods so they don't support cults. > You should tell them to quit selling that Yogi Tea too!
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On 2/14/2014 6:37 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole > Goods so they don't support cults. > You should tell them to quit selling that Yogi Tea too!
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Thanks for posting this - I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so they don't support cults. On Fri, 2/14/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/
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Whole Foods that is. On Sat, 2/15/14, Michael Jackson wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 12:37 AM Thanks for posting this - I shall begin an immediate campaign to have it removed from Whole Goods so they don't support cults. On Fri, 2/14/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 11:52 PM The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful ALERTNESS. Drink: Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS! http://vediccoffee.com/
