Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words to bhairitu

2013-01-27 Thread Share Long
Around MIU in the late 70s I always heard that flash is trash, not something to 
be sought.  I've noticed that flash tends to happen more with those who did 
LSD.  Which I did not.  And I never heard Maharishi talk about plateaus.  
Anyway, with practice of the sidhis, the silence I've noticed can be leaning a 
little more towards liveliness than towards pure silence.  Which I also 
associate with Purusha so maybe more likely for a guy.  Or more likely for 
kapha types?   


Anyway, silence is not to be tried for.  Nor is it useful to try and get deep.  
My understanding is that from CC to GC the depth comes up to the surface.  
Pointless to try and feel deep in or out of meditation.  Actually counter 
productive.  




 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words
 

  
On 01/27/2013 10:45 AM, Carol wrote:
 I'm curious to hear/read different folks descriptions of what it is like to 
 have the Silence permeate other areas of your life.

 And why is this state of grounded in the self and permanent silence called 
 Enlightenment?

 Thanks!

 PS: Jim (doctordumbass) stated in his own words regarding Enlightenment:
 It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being 
 grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in 
 Silenc within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The 
 Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds 
 crazy, huh?:-)
 He stated that here: 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/333754

 ***




I think that Maharishi really confused his followers by giving them the 
idea there was these plateaus.  And if these plateaus weren't achieved 
you are not enlightened.  But go to India and they will tell you if that 
inner silence doesn't go away after meditation you are well on the road 
of enlightenment.  On the road because it is an ongrowing experience.

About two years after learning TM I found that I wasn't really coming 
out of meditation as the state stayed with me.  After a while it is 
like the self doesn't exist unless it is drawn attention to by some 
demand (like a tax collector).  I think many meditators thought that 
enlightenment was going to be a big flashy thing with all kinds of 
lights auras and very powerful.  What they often describe would be 
something that would leave a person unable to interact in daily life. 
They would be sitting in a chair dazzled as if on LSD.

Instead it is that vast inner silence that permeates everything and is 
very grounding.  And it doesn't stop there.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words to bhairitu

2013-01-27 Thread Bhairitu
I have long said on FFL that one is on the road to enlightenment as soon 
as they stop being so concerned (or obsessed) about it. But I am also 
perplexed about people who have practiced meditation for years but say 
they've only had one or two clear experiences of transcending.  I also 
think that many people were so confused about CC, GC, UC and BC that 
they might miss they developed some inner silence that is growing daily. 
Often some advaita exercises will make them aware of it.

In other paths it's just called moksha and no levels to it. Obsessing 
about different levels is just a distraction and impediment.

On 01/27/2013 12:37 PM, Share Long wrote:
 Around MIU in the late 70s I always heard that flash is trash, not something 
 to be sought.  I've noticed that flash tends to happen more with those who 
 did LSD.  Which I did not.  And I never heard Maharishi talk about plateaus.  
 Anyway, with practice of the sidhis, the silence I've noticed can be leaning 
 a little more towards liveliness than towards pure silence.  Which I also 
 associate with Purusha so maybe more likely for a guy.  Or more likely for 
 kapha types?


 Anyway, silence is not to be tried for.  Nor is it useful to try and get 
 deep.  My understanding is that from CC to GC the depth comes up to the 
 surface.  Pointless to try and feel deep in or out of meditation.  Actually 
 counter productive.



 
   From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words
   


 On 01/27/2013 10:45 AM, Carol wrote:
 I'm curious to hear/read different folks descriptions of what it is like to 
 have the Silence permeate other areas of your life.

 And why is this state of grounded in the self and permanent silence called 
 Enlightenment?

 Thanks!

 PS: Jim (doctordumbass) stated in his own words regarding Enlightenment:
 It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being 
 grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in 
 Silenc within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The 
 Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. 
 Sounds crazy, huh?:-)
 He stated that here: 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/333754

 ***



 I think that Maharishi really confused his followers by giving them the
 idea there was these plateaus.  And if these plateaus weren't achieved
 you are not enlightened.  But go to India and they will tell you if that
 inner silence doesn't go away after meditation you are well on the road
 of enlightenment.  On the road because it is an ongrowing experience.

 About two years after learning TM I found that I wasn't really coming
 out of meditation as the state stayed with me.  After a while it is
 like the self doesn't exist unless it is drawn attention to by some
 demand (like a tax collector).  I think many meditators thought that
 enlightenment was going to be a big flashy thing with all kinds of
 lights auras and very powerful.  What they often describe would be
 something that would leave a person unable to interact in daily life.
 They would be sitting in a chair dazzled as if on LSD.

 Instead it is that vast inner silence that permeates everything and is
 very grounding.  And it doesn't stop there.