Western astrology uses stupid things like a Chiron which has a VERY
erratic orbit. I only have interest in the planets that can be
observed by the naked eye. Neptune, Uranus and Pluto are recent
additions for the western crew who must have been finding their
predictions failing because they don't use the precession of the equinox.
Jupiter is often associated with social and financial issues. Violence
in countries occurs because of tyranny. People can only take things for
so long lying down then the straw breaks the camel's back and it's party
time. The real reason they want to curb guns is to control people
because there is absolutely no way the economy will be able to recover
from the crimes of the banking industry. The damage may well last
centuries and give rise to violence if not a civil war in the US.
I am one who does not tolerate group think. I saw some of that after
9/11. A pending economic crash will have buffoons telling me what to
think and at my age I don't care if I get into trouble whacking them one
for it or at least telling them what they can do with themselves.
My opinion on astrology often does not sit well with astrologers either
who seem to think there is some mystical reason behind it. There may
well be but if you want to trump the pseudo-scientists, a term I use a
little differently from the way it is usually taken, then the concept of
the planets being markers just as we know the sun and moon were is a
good argument. Usually the naysayer have only a peripheral knowledge of
astrology such as only knowing the newspaper columns so are easy to trump.
On 04/10/2013 11:05 AM, Share Long wrote:
noozguru I don't associate Jupiter with violence but maybe has more to do
with Chiron which runs on a 50 year cycle. Here's part of an article by
Joyce Mason and the url for the whole thing. BTW, maybe no violence in 1820
because Chiron was in a friendly sign? Just speculating.
http://www.aplaceinspace.net/Pages/JMOuters5.html
Chiron's importance to outerplanetary people can hardly be overstated. It
is the thread that weaves together the tapestry of the outer planets as a
living aggregate in our charts. Chiron is the glue that makes
outerplanetary
people solid and capable of handling the strong energies that we are
asked
to bring down to Earth day by day -- first for ourselves, then for
others,
inspiring them to enter courageously into their own encounters with
Uranus,
Neptune, and Pluto. Chiron's binding influence with the trans-Saturnian
planets
is reason enough to want know your Chiron -- for if you do, the outer
planets
and their combined meaning will simply fall into place in one grand got
it!
The Power of Fifty
Since my Chiron Return, I have deepened my understanding of the Chiron
archetype and the possibilities of its 50-year cycle by transit through a
natal chart. My great-nephew was baptized on Pentecost Sunday, the Christian
celebration of the descent of the Holy Spirit fifty days after Easter. I
knew this was no accident for Zachary -- or for Auntie Joyce. The parallels
between the lives of Chiron and Jesus are legion.[1] Chiron is an earlier,
Greek mythological version of the same archetype -- the one so many cultures
venerate as the spiritual ideal.
At Zach's christening, I felt like I was living Chiron's progressed chart --
the Pentecost as the 50th day after the death of Jesus and the descent of
the Holy Spirit on the apostles is a metaphor for the 50th year of life and
the Chiron Return.[2] As Zach was chrismated -- anointed with holy oil on
his crown -- I thought about the tongues of fire over the apostles' heads at
Pentecost -- such a living symbol of spirit and inspiration, hovering over
their crown chakras. Watching our family's new baby become initiated into
his spiritual life, I saw his godparents as Chiron and Chariclo, now
entrusted with his Godlink. I was moved to tears, as I realized that by our
50th year, the descent of Spirit must be upon us -- we must be aware of it
-- if we are to accomplish what we came here to do.
And somehow, it all goes back to the fact of our birth and the spiritual
connection baptism and Pentecost both represent. Our mission is merely to
realize that we never lost that connection with All That Is when we left pure
spirit for a physical body. We brought our spirits with us. In Chiron:
Rainbow Bridge Between the Inner and Outer Planets, Barbara Hand Clow
reviews the symbolism of the number 50 from many sources. Fifty often
symbolizes attainment of a difficult task. Learning to live spiritually in a
material world for half a century sure qualifies! In the end, it is our
spirits that will get us through the rest of our lives and the continuous
challenge of these rapidly changing, end-beginning times. We are being asked
to evolve beyond light speed.