Re: [FairfieldLife] Predicting the Future

2013-04-10 Thread Share Long
noozguru I don't associate Jupiter with violence but maybe has more to do with 
Chiron which runs on a 50 year cycle.  Here's part of an article by Joyce Mason 
and the url for the whole thing.  BTW, maybe no violence in 1820 because Chiron 
was in a friendly sign?  Just speculating.

http://www.aplaceinspace.net/Pages/JMOuters5.html


Chiron's importance to outerplanetary people can hardly be overstated. It 
is the thread that weaves together the tapestry of the outer planets as a 
living aggregate in our charts. Chiron is the glue that makes 
outerplanetary 
people solid and capable of handling the strong energies that we are asked 
to bring down to Earth day by day -- first for ourselves, then for others, 
inspiring them to enter courageously into their own encounters with Uranus, 
Neptune, and Pluto. Chiron's binding influence with the trans-Saturnian 
planets 
is reason enough to want know your Chiron -- for if you do, the outer 
planets 
and their combined meaning will simply fall into place in one grand got it!
The Power of Fifty
Since my Chiron Return, I have deepened my understanding of the Chiron 
archetype  and the possibilities of its 50-year cycle by transit through a 
natal chart.  My great-nephew was baptized on Pentecost Sunday, the Christian 
celebration  of the descent of the Holy Spirit fifty days after Easter. I knew 
this was  no accident for Zachary -- or for Auntie Joyce. The parallels between 
the  lives of Chiron and Jesus are legion.[1] Chiron is an earlier, Greek 
mythological  version of the same archetype -- the one so many cultures 
venerate as the  spiritual ideal.
At Zach's christening, I felt like I was living Chiron's progressed chart  -- 
the Pentecost as the 50th day after the death of Jesus and the descent  of the 
Holy Spirit on the apostles is a metaphor for the 50th year of life  and the 
Chiron Return.[2] As Zach was chrismated -- anointed with holy oil  on his 
crown -- I thought about the tongues of fire over the apostles' heads  at 
Pentecost -- such a living symbol of spirit and inspiration, hovering over  
their crown chakras. Watching our family's new baby become initiated into  his 
spiritual life, I saw his godparents as Chiron and Chariclo, now entrusted  
with his Godlink. I was moved to tears, as I realized that by our 50th year,  
the descent of Spirit must be upon us -- we must be aware of it -- if we are  
to accomplish what we came here to do.
And somehow, it all goes back to the fact of our birth and the spiritual  
connection baptism and Pentecost both represent. Our mission is merely to  
realize that we never lost that connection with All That Is when we left pure  
spirit for a physical body. We brought our spirits with us. In Chiron:  Rainbow 
Bridge Between the Inner and Outer Planets, Barbara Hand Clow  reviews the 
symbolism of the number 50 from many sources. Fifty often symbolizes  
attainment of a difficult task. Learning to live spiritually in a material  
world for half a century sure qualifies! In the end, it is our spirits that  
will get us through the rest of our lives and the continuous challenge of  
these rapidly changing, end-beginning times. We are being asked to evolve  
beyond light speed.



 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Predicting the Future
 

  
These guys better watch out because they may also wind up validating 
astrology with their research.:-D

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/cliodynamics-peter-turchin/all/ 

They're looking into recurring cycles.   These  happen to coincide with 
recurring orbits of the planets.  Told ya ancient astrologers were using 
the planets as time keepers and not as puppet masters. They did this 
just as they did with cycles of the sun and moon. Using planets was just 
as inevitable.  For instance they're noticing a 50 year cycle of 
violence in the US.  That's approximately 4 Jupiter cycles.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Predicting the Future

2013-04-10 Thread Bhairitu
Western astrology uses stupid things like a Chiron which has a VERY 
erratic orbit.   I only have interest in the planets that can be 
observed by the naked eye. Neptune, Uranus and Pluto are recent 
additions for the western crew who must have been finding their 
predictions failing because they don't use the precession of the equinox.

Jupiter is often associated with social and financial issues. Violence 
in countries occurs because of tyranny.  People can only take things for 
so long lying down then the straw breaks the camel's back and it's party 
time.  The real reason they want to curb guns is to control people 
because there is absolutely no way the economy will be able to recover 
from the crimes of the banking industry.  The damage may well last 
centuries and give rise to violence if not a civil war in the US.

I am one who does not tolerate group think.  I saw some of that after 
9/11.  A pending economic crash will have buffoons telling me what to 
think and at my age I don't care if I get into trouble whacking them one 
for it or at least telling them what they can do with themselves.

My opinion on astrology often does not sit well with astrologers either 
who seem to think there is some mystical reason behind it. There may 
well be but if you want to trump the pseudo-scientists, a term I use a 
little differently from the way it is usually taken, then the concept of 
the planets being markers just as we know the sun and moon were is a 
good argument. Usually the naysayer have only a peripheral knowledge of 
astrology such as only knowing the newspaper columns so are easy to trump.

On 04/10/2013 11:05 AM, Share Long wrote:
 noozguru I don't associate Jupiter with violence but maybe has more to do 
 with Chiron which runs on a 50 year cycle.  Here's part of an article by 
 Joyce Mason and the url for the whole thing.  BTW, maybe no violence in 1820 
 because Chiron was in a friendly sign?  Just speculating.

 http://www.aplaceinspace.net/Pages/JMOuters5.html


 Chiron's importance to outerplanetary people can hardly be overstated. It
  is the thread that weaves together the tapestry of the outer planets as a
  living aggregate in our charts. Chiron is the glue that makes 
 outerplanetary
  people solid and capable of handling the strong energies that we are 
 asked
  to bring down to Earth day by day -- first for ourselves, then for 
 others,
  inspiring them to enter courageously into their own encounters with 
 Uranus,
  Neptune, and Pluto. Chiron's binding influence with the trans-Saturnian 
 planets
  is reason enough to want know your Chiron -- for if you do, the outer 
 planets
  and their combined meaning will simply fall into place in one grand got 
 it!
 The Power of Fifty
 Since my Chiron Return, I have deepened my understanding of the Chiron 
 archetype  and the possibilities of its 50-year cycle by transit through a 
 natal chart.  My great-nephew was baptized on Pentecost Sunday, the Christian 
 celebration  of the descent of the Holy Spirit fifty days after Easter. I 
 knew this was  no accident for Zachary -- or for Auntie Joyce. The parallels 
 between the  lives of Chiron and Jesus are legion.[1] Chiron is an earlier, 
 Greek mythological  version of the same archetype -- the one so many cultures 
 venerate as the  spiritual ideal.
 At Zach's christening, I felt like I was living Chiron's progressed chart  -- 
 the Pentecost as the 50th day after the death of Jesus and the descent  of 
 the Holy Spirit on the apostles is a metaphor for the 50th year of life  and 
 the Chiron Return.[2] As Zach was chrismated -- anointed with holy oil  on 
 his crown -- I thought about the tongues of fire over the apostles' heads  at 
 Pentecost -- such a living symbol of spirit and inspiration, hovering over  
 their crown chakras. Watching our family's new baby become initiated into  
 his spiritual life, I saw his godparents as Chiron and Chariclo, now 
 entrusted  with his Godlink. I was moved to tears, as I realized that by our 
 50th year,  the descent of Spirit must be upon us -- we must be aware of it 
 -- if we are  to accomplish what we came here to do.
 And somehow, it all goes back to the fact of our birth and the spiritual  
 connection baptism and Pentecost both represent. Our mission is merely to  
 realize that we never lost that connection with All That Is when we left pure 
  spirit for a physical body. We brought our spirits with us. In Chiron:  
 Rainbow Bridge Between the Inner and Outer Planets, Barbara Hand Clow  
 reviews the symbolism of the number 50 from many sources. Fifty often 
 symbolizes  attainment of a difficult task. Learning to live spiritually in a 
 material  world for half a century sure qualifies! In the end, it is our 
 spirits that  will get us through the rest of our lives and the continuous 
 challenge of  these rapidly changing, end-beginning times. We are being asked 
 to evolve  beyond light speed.