Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remed y for Mideas t peace: Transcendental Meditat ion

2014-01-24 Thread jr_esq
Michael,
 

 This is excellent writing.  You should write a book about your youth while 
growing up in the South.  Who knows, it could be a best seller.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remed y for Mideas t peace: Transcendental Meditat ion

2014-01-23 Thread anartaxius
There is a fourth possibility, that the term 'support of all the laws of 
nature' has an essential meaning that is different from what assumes: a meaning 
such as 'you gain control over those laws'. You can experience that the laws of 
nature support your little body and the world and the universe, but you do not 
gain any personal control over them than you had before getting involved in 
spiritual practice.
 

 It does appear to be a fact the world is in no better shape than before M, 
before Christ, before Buddha, especially before Mohamed. Adding to that there 
are many other groups doing group spiritual practices, and that doesn't seem to 
change things either. TM movement science generally seems to be biased in 
certain ways, which weakens its appeal to the broad scientific consensus, and 
most of the studies are too small. They largely seem to me to be designed to be 
used as marketing material; they are never done with the idea that the null 
hypothesis is the correct one. It is obvious that TM does something, what is 
not clear is exactly what that something is in the broad range it is said to 
influence. It seems well established that it creates changes in brain wave 
patterns; beyond that it is much less clear. An honest scientist would try to 
find out where it does not work as well as where it does, but you never see 
movement figures, scientist or otherwise really talk about areas where TM etc., 
shows no effect.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remed y for Mideas t peace: Transcendental Meditat ion

2014-01-23 Thread Michael Jackson
I think of them more as Movement figurines. 

On Thu, 1/23/14, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remed y for Mideas t  peace: 
Transcendental Meditat ion
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 7:23 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   There is a fourth possibility, that the term
 'support of all the laws of nature' has an essential
 meaning that is different from what assumes: a meaning such
 as 'you gain control over those laws'. You can
 experience that the laws of nature support your little body
 and the world and the universe, but you do not gain any
 personal control over them than you had before getting
 involved in spiritual practice.
 It does appear to be a fact the
 world is in no better shape than before M, before Christ,
 before Buddha, especially before Mohamed. Adding to that
 there are many other groups doing group spiritual practices,
 and that doesn't seem to change things either. TM
 movement science generally seems to be biased in certain
 ways, which weakens its appeal to the broad scientific
 consensus, and most of the studies are too small. They
 largely seem to me to be designed to be used as marketing
 material; they are never done with the idea that the null
 hypothesis is the correct one. It is obvious that TM does
 something,
 what is not clear is exactly what that something is in the
 broad range it is said to influence. It seems well
 established that it creates changes in brain wave patterns;
 beyond that it is much less clear. An honest scientist would
 try to find out where it does not work as well as where it
 does, but you never see movement figures, scientist or
 otherwise really talk about areas where TM etc., shows no
 effect.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remed y for Mideas t peace: Transcendental Meditat ion

2014-01-23 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Yes, absolutely what we need are numbers meditating now. Evidently one percent 
of the total for a change. And not let these ignorant anti-science, 
anti-meditation, meditation-quitters and -haters and non-meditators get in the 
way of and dissuade progress for us all. Talk about a null set bunch of 
theorists. Yes, just a bunch of spiritually damned sophists in effect trying 
their damnedest to hold us up. 
 Let's just get going with what we know. Based on plenty good and now way more 
than preliminary science, people everywhere should be learning transcending 
meditation and coming to group meditations nearby them. This meditation is now 
good science and should be good public policy for so many good reasons. Don't 
let the promotion of such simple and plain spiritual good like transcending 
meditation be derailed by the ignorant hooliganisms of these few misanthropes 
that troll the internet all days long with their own stuck in the past 
negativity.   As always, good practical advice warns, 'Consider the source' and 
protect yourSelf. These anti-meditators are as vile as they are delusional in 
their virtue. -Buck in the Dome
 
 
 Anartaxius write:

 There is a fourth possibility, that the term 'support of all the laws of 
nature' has an essential meaning that is different from what assumes: a meaning 
such as 'you gain control over those laws'. You can experience that the laws of 
nature support your little body and the world and the universe, but you do not 
gain any personal control over them than you had before getting involved in 
spiritual practice.
 

 It does appear to be a fact the world is in no better shape than before M, 
before Christ, before Buddha, especially before Mohamed. Adding to that there 
are many other groups doing group spiritual practices, and that doesn't seem to 
change things either. TM movement science generally seems to be biased in 
certain ways, which weakens its appeal to the broad scientific consensus, and 
most of the studies are too small. They largely seem to me to be designed to be 
used as marketing material; they are never done with the idea that the null 
hypothesis is the correct one. It is obvious that TM does something, what is 
not clear is exactly what that something is in the broad range it is said to 
influence. It seems well established that it creates changes in brain wave 
patterns; beyond that it is much less clear. An honest scientist would try to 
find out where it does not work as well as where it does, but you never see 
movement figures, scientist or otherwise really talk about areas where TM etc., 
shows no effect.