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iranitea, I agree. Here's an interview with Tara Bennett-Goleman and Daniel Goleman on that topic of freeing the mind that I received today: http://www.dailygood.org/story/564/how-the-mind-can-heal-the-heart-jill-suttie/ From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 4:27 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: iranitea, thank you and I do consider myself very fortunate. I think becoming totally free of the prison of ignorance can take lifetimes and I'm not yet completely free of that prison. Thanks Share, but that's not how I had meant it. There are different prisons, or should I say cages, and it's quite possible to free yourself from some dependency, mental or otherwise, some limiting mental constructs, or influences before ultimate realization. And maybe the most dire prison of all is thinking we are free when we're not. Anyway, happy nine nights of Mother Divine. Blessings of Mother Divine on you always. The next three days, blessings of MahaDurga. Oh, good you told me. I spent my time doing some photoshopping an image for facebook Be kind to warrior women! Those of the right kind. From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 11:48 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect Oh thanks Share. I like to be corrected, if it's not used as an opportunity for a put down, as it has been happening so often. Share, I really liked your comment about the PR anniversary. I like that you don't give in to all the collective pressure, of some of the group members here, that you are in fact NOT back peddling. I like you to know, that I am completely with you on this issue. PR is a strong word, but I do think that it was needed, and can well be understood. Don't give in to some wrong understood political correctness, which is basically the argument of your opponents. You are the one who clearly felt and perceived the kind of unwanted intrusion, and it is you who have to draw the red line. All the bad mouthing of your character is rubbish, you have not been the intruder in this regard. You had to deal here with a master manipulator - and you were able to see through this, and free yourself from that influence. Sometimes you have to step out of a prison, to realize you have been in a prison. There are prisons of mental concepts and conditionings. To free oneself from these may sometimes take years or decades. It doesn't matter how long you were exposed to these concepts, they may still take roots in you - obviously many have a hard time to get rid of this. Consider yourself lucky! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: iranitea, usually people say back peddling, like on a bicycle. But I like back paddling too. Like in a boat. I also could go for, on a rainy day, back puddling, that is, jumping backwards into a puddle (-: From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Iranitea, now truly desperate to score a point: But have you ever considered, that you don't know anything about what you are talking about? You mean, as to whether Barry knows about the Dark Web? I'm not certain of that, of course, which is why I said I don't think Barry knows... See his post #359659 to Seraphita and let us know what you think. Oh, oh, back-paddling I mean, you say 'Gracious no' as if it would be illegal or even ethical wrong to use Tor, or pages accessible only through it - or encryption in times of almost total Internet surveillance! Yar. That must be why I posted this to Seraphita (#359600): There are apparently many thousands of similar sites on the Dark Web. Silk Road and Atlantis (which closed down a couple of weeks ago) were only the most prominent. (Disclaimer: I don't use any of 'em, but I've been reading about them; I find the whole Dark Web concept fascinating. It's also used, BTW, by legit activists and journalists who need to keep their communications secret and untraceable. So it isn't inhabited only by Bad Guys selling drugs and guns and child porn.) Opsie... Ooopsie, then why did you say: Gracious No? And, I think, you know as much about 'Spirituality' and 'Sadhana' as you know about Tor and PGP. It's something that you are reading about on the internet and then regurgitate it. Well, I do think you and I have
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Well Daniel Goleman's best selling and ground breaking book is called Emotional Intelligence and could be considered a classic. So I'm guessing he's familiar with more than thinking. As for their smiles, maybe they are camera shy. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 12:45 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect The dude looks like his head is going to explode, from thinking so much. And what is with their vampire smiles? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: iranitea, I agree. Here's an interview with Tara Bennett-Goleman and Daniel Goleman on that topic of freeing the mind that I received today: http://www.dailygood.org/story/564/how-the-mind-can-heal-the-heart-jill-suttie/ From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 4:27 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: iranitea, thank you and I do consider myself very fortunate. I think becoming totally free of the prison of ignorance can take lifetimes and I'm not yet completely free of that prison. Thanks Share, but that's not how I had meant it. There are different prisons, or should I say cages, and it's quite possible to free yourself from some dependency, mental or otherwise, some limiting mental constructs, or influences before ultimate realization. And maybe the most dire prison of all is thinking we are free when we're not. Anyway, happy nine nights of Mother Divine. Blessings of Mother Divine on you always. The next three days, blessings of MahaDurga. Oh, good you told me. I spent my time doing some photoshopping an image for facebook Be kind to warrior women! Those of the right kind. From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 11:48 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect Oh thanks Share. I like to be corrected, if it's not used as an opportunity for a put down, as it has been happening so often. Share, I really liked your comment about the PR anniversary. I like that you don't give in to all the collective pressure, of some of the group members here, that you are in fact NOT back peddling. I like you to know, that I am completely with you on this issue. PR is a strong word, but I do think that it was needed, and can well be understood. Don't give in to some wrong understood political correctness, which is basically the argument of your opponents. You are the one who clearly felt and perceived the kind of unwanted intrusion, and it is you who have to draw the red line. All the bad mouthing of your character is rubbish, you have not been the intruder in this regard. You had to deal here with a master manipulator - and you were able to see through this, and free yourself from that influence. Sometimes you have to step out of a prison, to realize you have been in a prison. There are prisons of mental concepts and conditionings. To free oneself from these may sometimes take years or decades. It doesn't matter how long you were exposed to these concepts, they may still take roots in you - obviously many have a hard time to get rid of this. Consider yourself lucky! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: iranitea, usually people say back peddling, like on a bicycle. But I like back paddling too. Like in a boat. I also could go for, on a rainy day, back puddling, that is, jumping backwards into a puddle (-: From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Iranitea, now truly desperate to score a point: But have you ever considered, that you don't know anything about what you are talking about? You mean, as to whether Barry knows about the Dark Web? I'm not certain of that, of course, which is why I said I don't think Barry knows... See his post #359659 to Seraphita and let us know what you think. Oh, oh, back-paddling I mean, you say 'Gracious no' as if it would be illegal or even ethical wrong to use Tor, or pages accessible only through it - or encryption in times of almost total Internet surveillance! Yar. That must be why I posted this to Seraphita (#359600): There are apparently many thousands of similar sites
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iranitea, thank you and I do consider myself very fortunate. I think becoming totally free of the prison of ignorance can take lifetimes and I'm not yet completely free of that prison. And maybe the most dire prison of all is thinking we are free when we're not. Anyway, happy nine nights of Mother Divine. Blessings of Mother Divine on you always. The next three days, blessings of MahaDurga. Be kind to warrior women! From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 11:48 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect Oh thanks Share. I like to be corrected, if it's not used as an opportunity for a put down, as it has been happening so often. Share, I really liked your comment about the PR anniversary. I like that you don't give in to all the collective pressure, of some of the group members here, that you are in fact NOT back peddling. I like you to know, that I am completely with you on this issue. PR is a strong word, but I do think that it was needed, and can well be understood. Don't give in to some wrong understood political correctness, which is basically the argument of your opponents. You are the one who clearly felt and perceived the kind of unwanted intrusion, and it is you who have to draw the red line. All the bad mouthing of your character is rubbish, you have not been the intruder in this regard. You had to deal here with a master manipulator - and you were able to see through this, and free yourself from that influence. Sometimes you have to step out of a prison, to realize you have been in a prison. There are prisons of mental concepts and conditionings. To free oneself from these may sometimes take years or decades. It doesn't matter how long you were exposed to these concepts, they may still take roots in you - obviously many have a hard time to get rid of this. Consider yourself lucky! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: iranitea, usually people say back peddling, like on a bicycle. But I like back paddling too. Like in a boat. I also could go for, on a rainy day, back puddling, that is, jumping backwards into a puddle (-: From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Iranitea, now truly desperate to score a point: But have you ever considered, that you don't know anything about what you are talking about? You mean, as to whether Barry knows about the Dark Web? I'm not certain of that, of course, which is why I said I don't think Barry knows... See his post #359659 to Seraphita and let us know what you think. Oh, oh, back-paddling I mean, you say 'Gracious no' as if it would be illegal or even ethical wrong to use Tor, or pages accessible only through it - or encryption in times of almost total Internet surveillance! Yar. That must be why I posted this to Seraphita (#359600): There are apparently many thousands of similar sites on the Dark Web. Silk Road and Atlantis (which closed down a couple of weeks ago) were only the most prominent. (Disclaimer: I don't use any of 'em, but I've been reading about them; I find the whole Dark Web concept fascinating. It's also used, BTW, by legit activists and journalists who need to keep their communications secret and untraceable. So it isn't inhabited only by Bad Guys selling drugs and guns and child porn.) Opsie... Ooopsie, then why did you say: Gracious No? And, I think, you know as much about 'Spirituality' and 'Sadhana' as you know about Tor and PGP. It's something that you are reading about on the internet and then regurgitate it. Well, I do think you and I have different ideas of what an effective sadhana should result in. Repeatedly shooting yourself in the foot and not having the minimal humility to laugh at yourself for doing so is not on my list of positive outcomes. Neither mine. Oh, did you say this about me? And with regard to you, I do think it's a function of old age. What is a function of old age? Now, please spare me a detailed analysis. But it has been pointed out and explained to you quite recently by a number of people, most recent one was Xeno. You are of course immune to that, which is part of the problem. Now, Judy, I do indeed believe, that you basically believe in what you are saying. That is to say, to your own conscious awareness, you are truthful. The problem is only, that you take your own insights, or opinions for granted, and your 'intuitions' for facts, which they are not. This, together with an increased aggressiveness, and stubbornness
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Bob, maybe what we need is not a group hug, but a group apology ha ha! I also want to acknowledge Richard who DID apologize to MJ. But the flow of Ann's sequence stopped there, so what to do? As for me and The Masked Zebra, we did apologize to each other, at the very beginning. But neither of us liked how the other apologized so that's another knot in the flow. Not sure where that leaves you and me vis a vis apologies especially as I'm still unraveling the logic of your kind offer:if you need me to apologize to you, for you to apologize to The Masked Zebra, then I apologize! From: bobpri...@yahoo.com bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 1:22 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Share wrote: Bob, just like in Vedic cognition, sequence is essential when it comes to FFL apologies per Ann: Dear Richard, if you apologize to MJ then I am sure Judy might consider apologizing to Buck. When Barry apologizes to everybody then Judy might consider apologizing to Share. When Share apologizes to Robin then Judy might consider apologizing to Steve. An apology to Barry, however, might extract a higher price. If Ann said it, I know its true; if you need me to apologize to you, for you to apologize to The Masked Zebra, then I apologize! And whats this stuff about Vegan Ignition (some new type of flatulence Barry discovered)?
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Now this is really funny! So, let me apologize to Robin as well, although I never had a single conversation with him. I apologize to Robin for asking about all those books he wrote extolling the Iranian Muslim cleric. Robin, if you are reading this, I'm sorry about that. But, what is it with you and the Pope? LoL! On 10/5/2013 7:11 AM, Share Long wrote: Bob, maybe what we need is not a group hug, but a group apology ha ha! I also want to acknowledge Richard who DID apologize to MJ. But the flow of Ann's sequence stopped there, so what to do? As for me and The Masked Zebra, we did apologize to each other, at the very beginning. But neither of us liked how the other apologized so that's another knot in the flow. Not sure where that leaves you and me vis a vis apologies especially as I'm still unraveling the logic of your kind offer: if you need me to apologize to you, for you to apologize to The Masked Zebra, then I apologize! *From:* bobpri...@yahoo.com bobpri...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, October 4, 2013 1:22 PM *Subject:* RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Share wrote: Bob, just like in Vedic cognition, sequence is essential when it comes to FFL apologies per Ann: Dear Richard, if you apologize to MJ then I am sure Judy might consider apologizing to Buck. When Barry apologizes to everybody then Judy might consider apologizing to Share. When Share apologizes to Robin then Judy might consider apologizing to Steve. An apology to Barry, however, might extract a higher price. If Ann said it, I know its true; if you need me to apologize to you, for you to apologize to The Masked Zebra, then I apologize! And whats this stuff about Vegan Ignition (some new type of flatulence Barry discovered)?
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It didn't take long for this thread to go down the rabbit hole. Go figure. 'Imam and His Islamic Revolution: A Journey into Heaven and Hell' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1982 'Seventeen Days in Tehran: Revolution, Evolution and Ignorance' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen (Dec 1980) Snow Man Press, 1980 'A Personal Meeting with Ayatollah Khomeini: Islam and the Self' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1980 'Crisis in Iran: A microcosm of the cosmic play' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press; 2nd edition 1979 On 10/5/2013 9:24 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *One book, actually (very short, more like a long essay)--30 years ago--which he has explicitly and forcefully repudiated right here on FFL. So you can apologize to him for getting this wrong as well.* * * (The Iranian Muslim cleric whose name Richard can't remember: Ayatollah Khomeini.) * Richard wrote: * Now this is really funny! So, let me apologize to Robin as well, although I never had a single conversation with him. I apologize to Robin for asking about all those books he wrote extolling the Iranian Muslim cleric. Robin, if you are reading this, I'm sorry about that. But, what is it with you and the Pope? LoL! .
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However, Robin's books are more like pamphlets instead of books. He could probably have written tomes if he wanted to, maybe he still will. But, I am impressed that he self-published his own writings. Others writings of interest: 'From Ignorance to Enlightenment: An Autobiography' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1980 'On First Meeting Werner Erhard and Est: A Memoir of Deliberate Affirmation' By Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1980 'An Open Letter to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1981) 'Enigma of an Absolute: The Consciousness of Ludwig Wittgenstein' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1986 'Journey Into the Personal: Letters of an Enlightened Man' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1978 'The Final Heresy' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1980 'Intelligence of the Heart: Letters of Robin Woodsworth Carlsen' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1986 'What Is Enlightenment: Sutras of the Personal' By Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1979 'Anatomy of a Civilization' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1980 'Wings of a Snow Man: Wallace Stevens' Adagia With Commentary by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1986 On 10/5/2013 12:33 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Ooops, you're right, sorry about that. (Not sure all four books are all about extolling the Iranian Muslim cleric, though.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It didn't take long for this thread to go down the rabbit hole. Go figure. 'Imam and His Islamic Revolution: A Journey into Heaven and Hell' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1982 'Seventeen Days in Tehran: Revolution, Evolution and Ignorance' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen (Dec 1980) Snow Man Press, 1980 'A Personal Meeting with Ayatollah Khomeini: Islam and the Self' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press, 1980 'Crisis in Iran: A microcosm of the cosmic play' by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen Snow Man Press; 2nd edition 1979 On 10/5/2013 9:24 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: *One book, actually (very short, more like a long essay)--30 years ago--which he has explicitly and forcefully repudiated right here on FFL. So you can apologize to him for getting this wrong as well.* * * (The Iranian Muslim cleric whose name Richard can't remember: Ayatollah Khomeini.) * Richard wrote: * Now this is really funny! So, let me apologize to Robin as well, although I never had a single conversation with him. I apologize to Robin for asking about all those books he wrote extolling the Iranian Muslim cleric. Robin, if you are reading this, I'm sorry about that. But, what is it with you and the Pope? LoL! .
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iranitea, usually people say back peddling, like on a bicycle. But I like back paddling too. Like in a boat. I also could go for, on a rainy day, back puddling, that is, jumping backwards into a puddle (-: From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Iranitea, now truly desperate to score a point: But have you ever considered, that you don't know anything about what you are talking about? You mean, as to whether Barry knows about the Dark Web? I'm not certain of that, of course, which is why I said I don't think Barry knows... See his post #359659 to Seraphita and let us know what you think. Oh, oh, back-paddling I mean, you say 'Gracious no' as if it would be illegal or even ethical wrong to use Tor, or pages accessible only through it - or encryption in times of almost total Internet surveillance! Yar. That must be why I posted this to Seraphita (#359600): There are apparently many thousands of similar sites on the Dark Web. Silk Road and Atlantis (which closed down a couple of weeks ago) were only the most prominent. (Disclaimer: I don't use any of 'em, but I've been reading about them; I find the whole Dark Web concept fascinating. It's also used, BTW, by legit activists and journalists who need to keep their communications secret and untraceable. So it isn't inhabited only by Bad Guys selling drugs and guns and child porn.) Opsie... Ooopsie, then why did you say: Gracious No? And, I think, you know as much about 'Spirituality' and 'Sadhana' as you know about Tor and PGP. It's something that you are reading about on the internet and then regurgitate it. Well, I do think you and I have different ideas of what an effective sadhana should result in. Repeatedly shooting yourself in the foot and not having the minimal humility to laugh at yourself for doing so is not on my list of positive outcomes. Neither mine. Oh, did you say this about me? And with regard to you, I do think it's a function of old age. What is a function of old age? Now, please spare me a detailed analysis. But it has been pointed out and explained to you quite recently by a number of people, most recent one was Xeno. You are of course immune to that, which is part of the problem. Now, Judy, I do indeed believe, that you basically believe in what you are saying. That is to say, to your own conscious awareness, you are truthful. The problem is only, that you take your own insights, or opinions for granted, and your 'intuitions' for facts, which they are not. This, together with an increased aggressiveness, and stubbornness, and an attempt to cover up your own mistakes, concentrate on silly side issues, that is basically what has been perceived and pointed out by many here. Your constant GET Barry and Share, or whoever is in the shooting line. So don't complain if someone is shooting back. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Iranitea, each time you return to FFL from wherever you go when you aren't here, it seems as though both your IQ and your spirituality have deteriorated from your previous visit. Oh, and your English comprehension and mind-reading abilities as well. Maybe you should reconsider whether your sadhana is actually depriving you of brain cells. I don't think what we're seeing here is just the normal gradual mental decline of aging. Iranitea wrote: Of course! You sounded so proud, knowing about these things, so I thought you might at least know what you are talking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Iranitea keeps trying: And you surely have been to the dark web, have been using Tor and encrypted emails with PGP or GPG, right? Gracious, no, wrong. Have you? I wrote: I don't think [Barry] knows about the Dark Web and Tor and Atlantis and Silk Road and so on.
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Good catch, but then one can't have fun with paddling and puddling. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 12:14 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect Share wrote: iranitea, usually people say back peddling, like on a bicycle. Pedaling, not peddling. Peddling is what a peddler does. Pedaling is what you do on a bicycle.
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One hopes he is well and happy wherever he is. And may whatever letters any of us brand on another be as lines on water, lines on air. From: bobpri...@yahoo.com bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 12:07 PM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oh thanks Share. I like to be corrected, if it's not used as an opportunity for a put down, as it has been happening so often. Share, I really liked your comment about the PR anniversary. I like that you don't give in to all the collective pressure, of some of the group members here, that you are in fact NOT back peddling. I like you to know, that I am completely with you on this issue. PR is a strong word, but I do think that it was needed, and can well be understood. Don't give in to some wrong understood political correctness, which is basically the argument of your opponents. You are the one who clearly felt and perceived the kind of unwanted intrusion, and it is you who have to draw the red line. All the bad mouthing of your character is rubbish, you have not been the intruder in this regard. You had to deal here with a master manipulator - and you were able to see through this, and free yourself from that influence. Sometimes you have to step out of a prison, to realize you have been in a prison. There are prisons of mental concepts and conditionings. To free oneself from these may sometimes take years or decades. It doesn't matter how long you were exposed to these concepts, they may still take roots in you - obviously many have a hard time to get rid of this. Consider yourself lucky! I wonder if *The Masked Zebra* remembered this all important anniversary, or maybe he's off carving the Z on the less lucky? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ERXJLQySk ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: iranitea, usually people say back peddling, like on a bicycle. But I like back paddling too. Like in a boat. I also could go for, on a rainy day, back puddling, that is, jumping backwards into a puddle (-: From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Iranitea, now truly desperate to score a point: But have you ever considered, that you don't know anything about what you are talking about? You mean, as to whether Barry knows about the Dark Web? I'm not certain of that, of course, which is why I said I don't think Barry knows... See his post #359659 to Seraphita and let us know what you think. Oh, oh, back-paddling I mean, you say 'Gracious no' as if it would be illegal or even ethical wrong to use Tor, or pages accessible only through it - or encryption in times of almost total Internet surveillance! Yar. That must be why I posted this to Seraphita (#359600): There are apparently many thousands of similar sites on the Dark Web. Silk Road and Atlantis (which closed down a couple of weeks ago) were only the most prominent. (Disclaimer: I don't use any of 'em, but I've been reading about them; I find the whole Dark Web concept fascinating. It's also used, BTW, by legit activists and journalists who need to keep their communications secret and untraceable. So it isn't inhabited only by Bad Guys selling drugs and guns and child porn.) Opsie... Ooopsie, then why did you say: Gracious No? And, I think, you know as much about 'Spirituality' and 'Sadhana' as you know about Tor and PGP. It's something that you are reading about on the internet and then regurgitate it. Well, I do think you and I have different ideas of what an effective sadhana should result in. Repeatedly shooting yourself in the foot and not having the minimal humility to laugh at yourself for doing so is not on my list of positive outcomes. Neither mine. Oh, did you say this about me? And with regard to you, I do think it's a function of old age. What is a function of old age? Now, please spare me a detailed analysis. But it has been pointed out and explained to you quite recently by a number of people, most recent one was Xeno. You are of course immune to that, which is part of the problem. Now, Judy, I do indeed believe, that you basically believe in what you are saying. That is to say, to your own conscious awareness, you are truthful. The problem is only, that you take your own insights, or opinions for granted, and your 'intuitions' for facts, which they are not. This, together with an increased aggressiveness, and stubbornness, and an attempt to cover up your own
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Bob, just like in Vedic cognition, sequence is essential when it comes to FFL apologies per Ann: Dear Richard, if you apologize to MJ then I am sure Judy might consider apologizing to Buck. When Barry apologizes to everybody then Judy might consider apologizing to Share. When Share apologizes to Robin then Judy might consider apologizing to Steve. An apology to Barry, however, might extract a higher price. From: bobpri...@yahoo.com bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 12:32 PM Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One hopes he is well and happy wherever he is. And may whatever letters any of us brand on another be as lines on water, lines on air. No doubt Share, and in your case he must have had no doubt it was a line on air; have you apologized to Barry yet, get with it girl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWdZEumNRmI From: bobpriced@... bobpriced@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 12:07 PM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oh thanks Share. I like to be corrected, if it's not used as an opportunity for a put down, as it has been happening so often. Share, I really liked your comment about the PR anniversary. I like that you don't give in to all the collective pressure, of some of the group members here, that you are in fact NOT back peddling. I like you to know, that I am completely with you on this issue. PR is a strong word, but I do think that it was needed, and can well be understood. Don't give in to some wrong understood political correctness, which is basically the argument of your opponents. You are the one who clearly felt and perceived the kind of unwanted intrusion, and it is you who have to draw the red line. All the bad mouthing of your character is rubbish, you have not been the intruder in this regard. You had to deal here with a master manipulator - and you were able to see through this, and free yourself from that influence. Sometimes you have to step out of a prison, to realize you have been in a prison. There are prisons of mental concepts and conditionings. To free oneself from these may sometimes take years or decades. It doesn't matter how long you were exposed to these concepts, they may still take roots in you - obviously many have a hard time to get rid of this. Consider yourself lucky! I wonder if *The Masked Zebra* remembered this all important anniversary, or maybe he's off carving the Z on the less lucky? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ERXJLQySk ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: iranitea, usually people say back peddling, like on a bicycle. But I like back paddling too. Like in a boat. I also could go for, on a rainy day, back puddling, that is, jumping backwards into a puddle (-: From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Iranitea, now truly desperate to score a point: But have you ever considered, that you don't know anything about what you are talking about? You mean, as to whether Barry knows about the Dark Web? I'm not certain of that, of course, which is why I said I don't think Barry knows... See his post #359659 to Seraphita and let us know what you think. Oh, oh, back-paddling I mean, you say 'Gracious no' as if it would be illegal or even ethical wrong to use Tor, or pages accessible only through it - or encryption in times of almost total Internet surveillance! Yar. That must be why I posted this to Seraphita (#359600): There are apparently many thousands of similar sites on the Dark Web. Silk Road and Atlantis (which closed down a couple of weeks ago) were only the most prominent. (Disclaimer: I don't use any of 'em, but I've been reading about them; I find the whole Dark Web concept fascinating. It's also used, BTW, by legit activists and journalists who need to keep their communications secret and untraceable. So it isn't inhabited only by Bad Guys selling drugs and guns and child porn.) Opsie... Ooopsie, then why did you say: Gracious No? And, I think, you know as much about 'Spirituality' and 'Sadhana' as you know about Tor and PGP. It's something that you are reading about on the internet and then regurgitate it. Well, I do think you and I have different ideas of what an effective
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...he failed to follow his own security rules. While seeking tech help for his site, he used his personal email and gave his real name. What was alleged Silk Road mastermind's 'fatal flaw'? Find out how FBI tracked him down? http://www.cbsnews.com/ http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57605882/what-was-alleged-silk-road-masterminds-fatal-flaw-find-out-how-fbi-tracked-him-down/ 'We Are Anonymous' Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, Anonymous, and the Global Cyber Insurgency by Olson, Parmy Back Bay Books, 2013 'Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet' by Andrew Blum Ecco, 2013 'PGP: Pretty Good Privacy' by Garfinkel and Simson O'Reilly, 1991 On 10/4/2013 1:08 PM, iranitea wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Iranitea tries a different tack: Share, I really liked your comment about the PR anniversary. It was pretty funny. I like that you don't give in to all the collective pressure, of some of the group members here, that you are in fact NOT back peddling. I like you to know, that I am completely with you on this issue. Surprise! PR is a strong word, (For those who weren't around at the time, PR stands for psychological rape.) Repeating the word she finds so offensive. but I do think that it was needed, and can well be understood. Don't give in to some wrong understood political correctness, which is basically the argument of your opponents. Not sure what's politically correct about objecting to a very inflammatory accusation, especially given that it was false as could be. In any case, the offensiveness of the term and its falsehood were only part of the problem. The phrase is just a characterizations of what has happened to her, and how it felt to her. The offense, intrusion, was made by Robin, not her. She is the victim, not Robin. There is NO chance this word can be misunderstood, for example as physical rape. There is no falsehood at all involved in it. If she felt this was a psychological rape, she has every right to express this. The other part was that Share lied /either/ about her initial reaction to what Robin had said (which was utterly innocuous, BTW), or about what she /said/ her initial reaction had been four weeks later. She has never acknowledged the gross discrepancy, much less offered an explanation. You don't know about her initial reaction, you only know what she wrote here. She might have felt it earlier, but wasn't able to express it then. It sometimes needs time to become clear of one's feelings. Were you around at the time, iranitea? I don't recall your having commented on any of it. And? I had seen it at some point, when I was not subscribed. I was somewhat surprised, how you had managed to alienate yet another follower . You are the one who clearly felt and perceived the kind of unwanted intrusion, and it is you who have to draw the red line. All the bad mouthing of your character is rubbish, you have not been the intruder in this regard. You had to deal here with a master manipulator - and you were able to see through this, and free yourself from that influence. Sometimes you have to step out of a prison, to realize you have been in a prison. There are prisons of mental concepts and conditionings. To free oneself from these may sometimes take years or decades. It doesn't matter how long you were exposed to these concepts, they may still take roots in you - obviously many have a hard time to get rid of this. Consider yourself lucky! This is fascinating. I wonder if Share will set him straight. I doubt it. Yeah, sure, people have to be 'set straight'. This attitude says really all about you, that's why you are so much liked here. Consider this to be talking also about myself.
