Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 1:07:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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With 
  regard to bouncing in the Dome, maybe peace will be achieved and maybe 
  not. This is hypothetical from both our perspectives since neither one of 
  us is there (and as I've said here before, I no longer practice the 
  sidhis). The last part of my comment on war's current obsolescence 
  explicitly mentioned negotiation as an alternative- hard-headed and 
  grounded negotiation, keeping our country's best interests in 
  mind.If you would rather support killing, then that is your choice, 
  but keep in mind that it is a choice, not the sole 
alternative.

I'm not so sure that bouncing in the dome will ever accomplish the desired 
goal either but I'm all for give it a good try since it is harmless and not done 
at tax payer expense. As for resolving conflicts by negotiation, I think 
everybody agrees with that approach when the people you try to reason with are 
reasonable. But when somebody puts a gun to your head or attempts to while 
reasoning, self defense is one's first obligation.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 9:32:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:>> > In a message dated 8/9/06 
  11:03:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:> 
  > Do you wish nobody ever gave their life for your country?> 
  >> I can't speak for the past. For the present, Yes, absolutely Yes, 
  I > wish this foolish and insane idea of giving one's life for 
  one's > country was not seen as valid.> > > 
  > Speaking for the past is very important. We learn from our past or 
  we are > doomed to repeat it as the old saying goes. I think 
  everybody would like to see > the idea of giving one's life for his 
  country as being foolish and > unnecessary, but at this time in man's 
  evolution it just hasn't gotten there yet. As > long as people 
  value political, economic, and religious freedom and there are > 
  people that are absolutely hell bent on denying your freedoms that you 
  > cherish, it will be necessary for some to lay their lives down 
  for their society and > their society owes them a very great debt 
  of gratitude.>Yes, you speak for the past very 
  eloquently. 


While I know it's not your intent, I'll take that as a compliment. Until 
then, go to the dome, round your ears off and maybe the people that would 
deprive you of freedom will have a change of heart and not want to force 
their way of life on you and others and be content with their own lives as they 
are or try a more civilized means of bettering 
themselves.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 12:02:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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> 
  About on par with the more 'sophisticated' message from the West > 
  these days to 'give your life for your country'. Either way, a life > 
  is wasted for nothing.> > > > Do you wish nobody 
  ever gave their life for your country?>Perhaps he wishes that 
  the USA was still a colony of Britain...or perhaps Canada's 11th 
  province...

Or that Black people were still slaves.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/9/06 11:03:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Do you 
  wish nobody ever gave their life for your country?>I can't speak 
  for the past. For the present, Yes, absolutely Yes, I wish this foolish 
  and insane idea of giving one's life for one's country was not seen as 
  valid.

Speaking for the past is very important. We learn from our past or we are 
doomed to repeat it as the old saying goes. I think everybody would like to see 
the idea of giving one's life for his country as being foolish and unnecessary, 
but at this time in man's evolution it just hasn't gotten there yet. As long as 
people value political, economic, and religious freedom and there are 
people that are absolutely hell bent on denying your freedoms that you cherish, 
it will be necessary for some to lay their lives down for their society and 
their society owes them  a very great debt of 
gratitude.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-09 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/9/06 8:59:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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About on 
  par with the more 'sophisticated' message from the West these days to 
  'give your life for your country'. Either way, a life is wasted for 
  nothing.

Do you wish nobody ever gave their life for your 
country?
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