Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...

2006-05-16 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 5/16/06 3:10:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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The 
  question could be simplified. Is there any reasonthat anyone who has 
  learned the basic TM techniqueshould think that there is any value in 
  learning an"advanced technique" PERIOD, whether they learn 
  itofficially or not? Based on my experience, I wouldhave to say that 
  the answer is a big, fat NO.I'm being honest here, not contrary. I 
  never subject-ively perceived any value whatsoever in any of 
  the"advanced techniques" I received while part of theTM organization. 
  I think they are and always were an mechanism to charge people more money, 
  and that theydon't do diddleysquat.

Sorry I have to disagree here. I received several of the 
advanced techniques and found most of them did exactly what they were supposed 
to do, slow down transcending and keep one in the subtler levels of meditation 
longer, instead of the quick in and out several times per meditation. I don't 
have all of them but I won't pay the price demanded now days, so I'll make do 
with what I have.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...

2006-05-16 Thread Vaj




On May 16, 2006, at 10:35 AM, sparaig wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark stadspark@
  wrote:
  
  
   This is a question for anyone who has officially been 
 instructed in
  at least two advanced
   techniques:
  
   So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in
  the TM technique, is there
   any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv.
  technique, if he could
   just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free
  (i.e simply update his
   mantr..)??
  
   Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know
  for a fact is unecessary after
   having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no
  reason ...
  
   Any thoughts, anyone?
 
  I'd suggest it depends on whether one thinks the
  performance of the puja enhances the effectiveness of
  the instruction.
 
  (Caveat: Like you, I have only one advanced technique.)
 

 IS there more to TM instruction than just the puja? How can we 
 possibly know?


In mantra shastra it's said there are two ways to get a mantra--one 
is by puja, the easiest but least effective way. Second is by 
adhikara where the guru chooses a mantra specifically for the 
students mind and disposition. This is the best method according to 
tradition.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...

2006-05-16 Thread Bhairitu



sparaig wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Vaj wrote:
 
  On May 16, 2006, at 4:02 AM, stadspark wrote:
  
   
This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in
at least two advanced
techniques:
   
So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in
the TM technique, is there
any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv.
technique, if he could
just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free
(i.e simply update his
mantr..)??
   
Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know
for a fact is unecessary after
having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ...
   
   
Any thoughts, anyone?
   
S
  
  
  I think it's insane to pay the price for what should really have been
  given as part of the basic technique. I'd look elsewhere and seek to
  preserve the integrity of your personal practice, all the while
  deepening your own practice. For example, one can receive the
  *entire* mantra for your TM devata mantra from Amma (or many other
  sources). Sri Sri Ravi Shankar teaches one of the (IMO) very, very
  important advanced techniques as part of his basic meditation
  technique I am told, so that's an inexpensive way to get that
  technique--and of course SSRS has a lineal connection to the TMO.
  That's the nice thing about lineage: there's always more than one
  person you can go to for answers. The Age of Enlightenment technique
  is really just a traditional Hindu meditation used daily by many
  devout Hindus, albeit somewhat watered down. If this type of thing
  appeals to you, I'd suggest finding an old uncertified independent
  governor (who far out number the certified ones!) who can give you
  the technique and then make a donation to your favorite charity.
  
  You really have a lot of options--and many of them will lie outside
  the TM movement or use independent teachers.
  
  
   
  
  Shouldn't they be 1/3 off in price? Since they are about half to 1/3
  of a mantra. :)
 
  They are a little more close to a traditional technique. Of course
  they turn you into a Saraswati worshipper which is not a bad thing but
  explains why so many TM'ers value academia so much, have overstimulated
  intellects and indulge in intellectual constructs. Some balancing
  techniques need to also be given.
 

Interesting commments coming from someone who advocates Buddhist techniques that
apparently have this effect strong enough that it can be detected by our current 
EEG
technology.

 

Huh? Not me. I use and teach Indian tantrik techniques.







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