Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
In a message dated 5/16/06 3:10:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question could be simplified. Is there any reasonthat anyone who has learned the basic TM techniqueshould think that there is any value in learning an"advanced technique" PERIOD, whether they learn itofficially or not? Based on my experience, I wouldhave to say that the answer is a big, fat NO.I'm being honest here, not contrary. I never subject-ively perceived any value whatsoever in any of the"advanced techniques" I received while part of theTM organization. I think they are and always were an mechanism to charge people more money, and that theydon't do diddleysquat. Sorry I have to disagree here. I received several of the advanced techniques and found most of them did exactly what they were supposed to do, slow down transcending and keep one in the subtler levels of meditation longer, instead of the quick in and out several times per meditation. I don't have all of them but I won't pay the price demanded now days, so I'll make do with what I have. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
On May 16, 2006, at 10:35 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark stadspark@ wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? I'd suggest it depends on whether one thinks the performance of the puja enhances the effectiveness of the instruction. (Caveat: Like you, I have only one advanced technique.) IS there more to TM instruction than just the puja? How can we possibly know? In mantra shastra it's said there are two ways to get a mantra--one is by puja, the easiest but least effective way. Second is by adhikara where the guru chooses a mantra specifically for the students mind and disposition. This is the best method according to tradition. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 4:02 AM, stadspark wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? S I think it's insane to pay the price for what should really have been given as part of the basic technique. I'd look elsewhere and seek to preserve the integrity of your personal practice, all the while deepening your own practice. For example, one can receive the *entire* mantra for your TM devata mantra from Amma (or many other sources). Sri Sri Ravi Shankar teaches one of the (IMO) very, very important advanced techniques as part of his basic meditation technique I am told, so that's an inexpensive way to get that technique--and of course SSRS has a lineal connection to the TMO. That's the nice thing about lineage: there's always more than one person you can go to for answers. The Age of Enlightenment technique is really just a traditional Hindu meditation used daily by many devout Hindus, albeit somewhat watered down. If this type of thing appeals to you, I'd suggest finding an old uncertified independent governor (who far out number the certified ones!) who can give you the technique and then make a donation to your favorite charity. You really have a lot of options--and many of them will lie outside the TM movement or use independent teachers. Shouldn't they be 1/3 off in price? Since they are about half to 1/3 of a mantra. :) They are a little more close to a traditional technique. Of course they turn you into a Saraswati worshipper which is not a bad thing but explains why so many TM'ers value academia so much, have overstimulated intellects and indulge in intellectual constructs. Some balancing techniques need to also be given. Interesting commments coming from someone who advocates Buddhist techniques that apparently have this effect strong enough that it can be detected by our current EEG technology. Huh? Not me. I use and teach Indian tantrik techniques. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.