The mind doesn't remember pure consciousness. It notes the transition out of
pure consciousness.
Most people think that the TM period is uniformly some special state of
consciousness, but actually it is merely a situation where CC-like physiology
is more likely to be present than outside
Minor suggested edits... :-)
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on
spirituality
TM-SIdhis program *always* includes TM, so there's no point in talking about
things any other way.
For us, true, but anyone can find a sutra. Hope your friend finds **The
Answer** - lol
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :
TM-SIdhis program *always* includes TM, so
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Minor suggested edits... :-)
From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A
Very droll, but in fact, I was paraphrasing R. Keith Wallace's book talking
about research on TM, from the original research he did in 1970, until the time
the book was published.
If you want to argue with R. Keith because your mental impression of what is
going on is more accurate than the
What you were doing is speaking in absolutes, as if everything you said was
undeniable truth, even though it's only stuff you've been told or that you've
read. It doesn't matter *who* does that -- it's equally bogus, no matter who is
spouting the dogma.
And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake in
teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that?
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:39 AM
Subject:
The statement is a practical one - Charlie might have been a nice guy, but he
was as benighted as Jerry Jarvis and all the other old timers who were wowed by
Marshy's charisma.
Had the Old Goat been sincere and dealt with the unstressing phenomena in a
responsible way and really focused on
Good one Sal! I wish everyone had read the old article I posted here on Jerry
Jarvis - it shows just how dedicated the real True Believers are in
indoctrinating everyone into TM Fantasy Land thinking.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To:
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm.
Will a checking cure me of my desire to state the bleeding obvious too?
It sure cured Nabby of his
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Only nitwits are interested in the obvious everyone else can see. Watch the
tapes with Charlie Lutes and TRY to have a peek into the hidden. Not that I
think it will give any meaning for you...
'It is only shallow people who do not judge by
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Having listened to a couple of tapes I think he sounds like an old time
preacher crossed with any number of new age guru's. Maybe you had to be there
to buy into whatever charisma he's supposed to have but he delivers his
speeches like a second
I know people from that era who still think Charlie was hooked into some kind
of special ascended master crap and therefore thinks he was some kind of
special guy, even the ones who don't do TM anymore.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
I know people from that era who still think Charlie was hooked into some kind
of special ascended master crap and therefore thinks he was some kind of
special guy, even the ones who don't do TM anymore.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
The statement is a practical one - Charlie might have been a nice guy, but he
was as benighted as Jerry Jarvis and all the other old timers who were wowed by
Marshy's charisma.
Had the Old Goat been sincere and dealt with
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm.
Will a checking cure me of my
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
I know people from that era who still think Charlie was hooked into some kind
of special ascended master crap and therefore thinks he was some
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Only nitwits are interested in the obvious everyone else can see. Watch the
tapes with Charlie Lutes and TRY to have a peek into the hidden. Not that I
think it will give any meaning
I admit that every quote of Oscar Wilde makes me love him more! So just for
fun, I checked him out on the List of Initiates. I include a couple of others,
also just for fun:
Oscar Wilde, 1.6
Wordsworth 1.7
Natalie Wood 1.4
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:44 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
On 6/26/2014 6:52 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a
Seer.
I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did
he have a specific timescale
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
I admit that every quote of Oscar Wilde makes me love him more! So just for
fun, I checked him out on the List of Initiates. I include a couple of others,
also just for fun:
Oscar Wilde, 1.6
Wordsworth 1.7
Natalie Wood 1.4
On 6/26/2014 7:18 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm.
Will a checking cure me of my desire to state the bleeding obvious too?
Sal is really taking this
On 6/26/2014 7:18 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake
in teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that?
He probably thought it was just too advanced for most people, like basic
On 6/26/2014 7:22 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
The statement is a practical one - Charlie might have been a nice guy,
but he was as benighted as Jerry Jarvis and all the other old timers
who were wowed by Marshy's charisma.
Had the Old Goat been sincere and
On 6/26/2014 7:42 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm.
Will a checking cure me
On 6/26/2014 7:44 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
*From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Only nitwits are interested in the obvious everyone else can see.
Watch the tapes with Charlie Lutes and TRY to have a peek into the
hidden. Not that I think it will
Richard, once again imo Maharishi had a great insight. By presenting the sidhis
as a way to develop mind body coordination. Simple, unglamorous, down to earth.
Not to make a reverse pun ha ha!
The traditional warning is that pursuit of special powers is dangerous to
genuine spiritual progress.
On 6/26/2014 8:50 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
The statement is a practical one - Charlie might have been a nice guy,
but he was as benighted as Jerry Jarvis and all the other old timers
who were wowed by
On 6/26/2014 8:50 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
*From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
I know people from that era who still think Charlie was hooked into
some kind of special ascended master crap and therefore
On 6/26/2014 10:38 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Richard, once again imo Maharishi had a great insight. By presenting
the sidhis as a way to develop mind body coordination. Simple,
unglamorous, down to earth. Not to make a reverse pun ha ha!
The traditional warning
1.6 for Oscar Wild is pretty good actually and more than I expected. When
checking the list you will find that many world famous artists was round-about
the same point of evolution when they popped, and it is far, far above
average for mankind.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Because Charley believed the modern tradition.
You don't find the same warnings about Yogic Flying and other Siddhis in older
sources, as far as I can tell.
In fact, the Shiva Samhita says that practice of Yogic Flying destroys the
darkness of the world.
L
---In
What do you consider the modern tradition? The Shiva Samhita is generally
thought to have been composed somewhere between 1600 to 1800 CE though one
translator thinks it was composed perhaps around 1500 CE. This is hardly an old
document, having been written long after the classic Vedic works.
That was a bit flippant of me, wasn't it?
Cardmeister has already gone into detail about how different commentators
interpret the warning differently.
The most straightforward interpretation is that only the sense-related siddhis
are impediments to samadhi.
Maharishi takes a broader
Personally, I am glad I had done TM, and some rounding, before I was exposed to
the TM-Siddhis Programme. Without that foundation, built from meditation, the
experiences can be a bit unsettling, to say the least. I would not mess around
with sidhis, without that initial stability. With it, no
George: I think it moved.
Jerry: Moved?
George: It may have moved, I don't know.
Jerry: I'm sure it didn't move.
George: It moved! It was imperceptible but I felt it.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
TM-SIdhis program *always* includes TM, so there's no point in talking about
things any other way.
A freind of mine thought that Yogic Flying was the most important thing you
could ever do, so he would cut out TM and the rest of the TM-SIdhis if he was
short on time.
I thought he was
Ha!, that's funny Ann. BTW, the colloidal silver has worked very well in the
little patch of psoriasis or dry skin below my knee.
I've had that patch for about 20 years and during that time managed to go to
the skin doctor a couple of times. In both cases they gave me a topical
ointment
1. Now if pure consciousness is transcendent and non-physical, no EEG pattern
would ever reveal it, since no evidence of consciousness could ever be
discovered scientifically as science only measures physical things. Thus all
evidence that scientific evidence can somehow support the contention
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Ha!, that's funny Ann. BTW, the colloidal silver has worked very well in the
little patch of psoriasis or dry skin below my knee.
I've had that patch for about 20 years and during that time managed to go to
the skin doctor a
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