Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ice Krispies

2013-12-14 Thread Bhairitu
Congrats on your new digs.  I'm going to have a big one of those parked 
in front of my house all next week.  A couple of friends who used to 
work at Microsoft will be visited.  They tootle all around the country 
in it.  They will dropping by on their way to Clear Lake.


On 12/13/2013 05:13 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:


Thank you! I just got through the two hour orientation, and drove the 
beast home, now parked in the driveway - not as scary as I thought, 
and very solid to drive. Gotta watch low overpasses and gas station 
roofs. Time to go to school, learning all the subsystems, and then 
continue my meglo-maniacal plan for artistic domination of the solar 
system!







Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
That's wonderful, Doc. Hope you can send us a picture of it.





On Friday, December 13, 2013 9:09 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 
  
I picked up on it, a long time ago, Ann. Barry can write provocatively, but not 
very intelligently. Despite his belief to the contrary, he is a very 
conventional guy, living mostly on memories. I don't judge him for it, but I 
also don't go for this persona he creates for himself - nor do many others in 
the real world, apparently, since he is posting like crazy to FFL, now that he 
has quit his job.

In other news, I am picking up my motorhome today! So excited, and a bit 
apprehensive about wheeling around something 10 feet wide and 32 feet long - 
but also looking forward to getting out in some wilderness and hanging out. The 
advantage of a self-contained RV is that you can boondock for about ten days - 
camp anywhere, without needing external food, water, electricity or sewer 
facilities.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread Bhairitu

On 12/12/2013 11:41 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


 Bhairitu asked:
 
  How do you define real music?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, the non-musician said to the
musician:

 I know it when I hear it.

To quote someone else on this forum, That's what I was afraid she'd
say. :-)

As for the non-musician's ability to know anything, see my previous
post. :-)



The term real music sounds curious to a trained musician's ear because 
they no there is no such thing as real music.  It's a fan term.  
Musicians, especially composers, can be as intrigued with the simple 
made up tune of a mountain goat herder as with the complex 
orchestrations of the great composers.  Real music sounds like a term 
that someone who is insecure about their choice of music would use 
because they need the good musickeeping seal of approval for their 
music choices. :-D


Not to say that some of the music linked isn't wonderful.  I could 
probably link to some other pieces that are admired by professionals 
that some folks here might hate.  You gotta appreciate the works of John 
Cage too.


I noted your post about the music generated by Wikipedia editing.  I 
call that a sound piece and not actually music though someone has 
crafted the scales used so there is almost no dissonance.  Musicians are 
often experimenting with such things to come up with new and different 
ideas.  A few years ago I noticed that after listening to 5 or 10 
minutes of Tibetan Gamelan music I heard western music in a different 
light.  It almost deprogrammed me of any association which images we get 
when we listen to music.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Er, no, sorry. Remember the level of musical education of the person to whom I 
was speaking when I used the term, and with reference to what piece (I know you 
like it, but I thought it was really pretty drab).
 

 BTW, some of the great composers were also intrigued by found music and 
primitive tunes, folk music, spirituals, and so on, using them in important 
pieces (e.g., Dvorak's New World Symphony).
 

 Bhairitu wrote:
 

  The term real music sounds curious to a trained musician's ear because 
they no there is no such thing as real music.  It's a fan term.  Musicians, 
especially composers, can be as intrigued with the simple made up tune of a 
mountain goat herder as with the complex orchestrations of the great composers. 
 Real music sounds like a term that someone who is insecure about their 
choice of music would use because they need the good musickeeping seal of 
approval for their music choices. :-D  
 Not to say that some of the music linked isn't wonderful.  I could probably 
link to some other pieces that are admired by professionals that some folks 
here might hate.  You gotta appreciate the works of John Cage too.
 
 I noted your post about the music generated by Wikipedia editing.  I call that 
a sound piece and not actually music though someone has crafted the scales 
used so there is almost no dissonance.  Musicians are often experimenting with 
such things to come up with new and different ideas.  A few years ago I noticed 
that after listening to 5 or 10 minutes of Tibetan Gamelan music I heard 
western music in a different light.  It almost deprogrammed me of any 
association which images we get when we listen to music.
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread doctordumbass
I love Gamelan music! It was our version of being in band when I went to 
school in Djarkarta - I played a hand-held bamboo musical instrument, where the 
vibration of various sticks of bamboo, within a chamber, would produce 
different tones - almost like a playable rain-stick. Also went to several hindu 
epics on Bali, where a gamelan orchestra provided the music. I didn't realize 
Tibet had adopted it as well.