Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and not seen God, you might be a yogi!
Carde, I thought iti means the end. Like Iti Has I thought means the end of
laughter. The end as in goal rather than the end as in the cessation.
So na iti would mean not the end?
After neti neti not this, not this, comes and this too, and this too.
BTW, I enjoy this nitpicking. Thanks.
From: card
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 6:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and not seen
God, you might be a yogi!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote:
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>
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> Yogis are fond of saying "Not this, not this, not this." (In Sanskrit it's
> "Neti, neti, neti."
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I wonder why that's translated to 'not this'. I'm almost certain
'neti' is sandhi for 'na+iti'. Furtermore,'iti' is not a pronoun
but an adverb, 'thus':
1 iti 1 adv. thus, so. It refers to something said or thought, which
it follows (rarely precedes), and is often = with these words, here endeth (cf.
{atha}), at this thought, as you know etc.; often not to be transl. at all. A
nom. before {iti} may have the mg. of an acc. {itIti, itIva, ityuta, ityeva,
ityevam, iti ha sma}, & {iti sma ha} = {iti} alone. {iti tAvat} as much as, the
same as (---). {iti kRtvA} for this reason. {kimiti} wherefore, why? or = {iti
kim}.
Well, perhaps I'm guilty of Sanskrit-friik-nitpikking... LOL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and not seen God, you might be a yogi!
Ah ha ha hathat is so funny. Really funny. Excruciatingly funny. Exquisitely funny. From: curtisdeltablues To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and not seen God, you might be a yogi! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > On the other hand, after a hard day of battle the combatants of the > Mahabharata would have dinner together around the campfires like actors > backstage shedding their assumed characters. > > I kinda like that concept. But, I'm not fit for it, CUZ I EVEN CARRY GRUDGES > AGAINST PEOPLE WHO BOTHERED ME IN MY NIGHTLY DREAMS. > > I'm trying not to contend these days, but there it is -- Doc, somehow got me > to reply. > > If'n I was agunna contend it'd be against Curtis, but that guy just slips my > grip every time I try to get him in a hammerlock about God. So, Ravi, there's > the righteous battle you should be egging me on to enjoin. > > Edg Hey I'm always up for that Edge. But right now lets have a little experiment. Let's see who can toss a peppermint soft mint right on the belly of the baby Jesus right now as you read this...go. I nailed him on the first try and it actually enhances his beatific splendor. It looks like a smart little red striped tank top, so I can't wait to hear if you...what was that? You are not seated within a soft mint lob of the baby Jesus on the 10th day of advent? Gotta say if we are both at the Pearly Gates together and there is only one opening left, I am gunna have to bring up this little absence of devotion on your part Edge. Now you can just contemplate who is the godless one in this discussion while I make a matching hipster hat out of a Jujube for the little divine tyke. Nothing says savior of mankind like edible clothing. No wait L'll JC, cock it a little to the side, oh yes that nails it, pure Seattle post ironic attitude! Now drift off to sleep, you've got a lot of sins to shed blood for. That's a good little Son O' God. Hey Joseph I think there is a loose board or something around the back of the manger, you'd better go check it out. Yeah I hear you are the right man for the job, that's right out that way, see you a bit later... S Mary, how YOU do'n? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > > > I'm glad you enjoyed it Edg because I was laughing hard after sending that > > response. I had to google "krishna's words to arjuna in kurukshetra" to get > > those lines. I felt your response was not as strong as I would like it to > > be but looking back it's a very good comeback. > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Hee hee, Ravi -- but you see, it's a heaping of coals upon the head to > > > show kindness to those who know not how to be kind. > > > > > > If Doc complains about any burning sensations, it's a tell. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Edguna - such words are not worthy of a hero like you. Your duty is to > > > > fight. He has insulted you - take him down !!! > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Duveyoung > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um, Doc, um, er, thanks for the response, but I'm not certain of the > > > > > tone/vibe. If you are targeting me individually instead of the generic > > > use > > > > > of the word "you" then, I gotta ask if you'll be kind enough, while > > > > > I'm > > > > > waving this here bigass white flag, to flesh out the summation, cuz, I > > > > > never know when some truth about myself has been denied by me until > > > someone > > > > > really intelligent backs me in a corner -- that's how I roll. You > > > think you > > > > > can do this service for me? It would grand of you. > > > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg, There is an alternative. Quiet your mind the fuck down, so that > > > you > > > > > are not filtering everything through it. Deal responsibly with what is > > > in > > > > > your mind, not by denying it, judging it, or distracting away from it. > > > Stop > > > > > being life's bitch. > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you do that, examine each component, including this retarded > > > notion > > > > > that you are forever locked in mental slavery. > > > > > > > > > > > > A fair amount of work and dedication to reach true peace of mind, > > > > > > and > > > > > non-attachment, though not nearly as much work as you expend, dealing > > > with > > > > > who YOU thinks you is. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogis are fond of saying "Not this, not this, not this." (In > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and not seen God, you might be a yogi!
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Ravi Chivukula > wrote: > >> In my mind Edg is a warrior so I spontaneously came up with that response >> - so what you say makes sense. Forget about Curtis though - he may be your >> pal but he is a wounded warrior and plays dirty. If you are not in to the >> game of superficial praise, adoration and niceties, just leave him alone. > > > Wounded warrior with his WMD's - Weapons of Mass Deception. Oh Mighty > Warrior Edjuna - you have been forewarned !!! > Curtis to Ravi - What is this weird energy that's being directed at me on an Internet forum Ravi? What did I do to deserve this hostility, contempt and meanness?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and not seen God, you might be a yogi!
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > In my mind Edg is a warrior so I spontaneously came up with that response > - so what you say makes sense. Forget about Curtis though - he may be your > pal but he is a wounded warrior and plays dirty. If you are not in to the > game of superficial praise, adoration and niceties, just leave him alone. Wounded warrior with his WMD's - Weapons of Mass Deception. Oh Mighty Warrior Edjuna - you have been forewarned !!! > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Duveyoung wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> On the other hand, after a hard day of battle the combatants of the >> Mahabharata would have dinner together around the campfires like actors >> backstage shedding their assumed characters. >> >> I kinda like that concept. But, I'm not fit for it, CUZ I EVEN CARRY >> GRUDGES AGAINST PEOPLE WHO BOTHERED ME IN MY NIGHTLY DREAMS. >> >> I'm trying not to contend these days, but there it is -- Doc, somehow got >> me to reply. >> >> If'n I was agunna contend it'd be against Curtis, but that guy just slips >> my grip every time I try to get him in a hammerlock about God. So, Ravi, >> there's the righteous battle you should be egging me on to enjoin. >> >> >> Edg >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula >> wrote: >> > >> > I'm glad you enjoyed it Edg because I was laughing hard after sending >> that >> > response. I had to google "krishna's words to arjuna in kurukshetra" to >> get >> > those lines. I felt your response was not as strong as I would like it >> to >> > be but looking back it's a very good comeback. >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Duveyoung >> wrote: >> > >> > > ** >> >> > > >> > > >> > > Hee hee, Ravi -- but you see, it's a heaping of coals upon the head to >> > > show kindness to those who know not how to be kind. >> > > >> > > If Doc complains about any burning sensations, it's a tell. >> > > >> > > Edg >> > > >> > > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > > >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Edguna - such words are not worthy of a hero like you. Your duty is >> to >> > > > fight. He has insulted you - take him down !!! >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Duveyoung < >> no_re...@yahoogroups.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > ** >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Um, Doc, um, er, thanks for the response, but I'm not certain of >> the >> > > > > tone/vibe. If you are targeting me individually instead of the >> generic >> > > use >> > > > > of the word "you" then, I gotta ask if you'll be kind enough, >> while I'm >> > > > > waving this here bigass white flag, to flesh out the summation, >> cuz, I >> > > > > never know when some truth about myself has been denied by me >> until >> > > someone >> > > > > really intelligent backs me in a corner -- that's how I roll. You >> > > think you >> > > > > can do this service for me? It would grand of you. >> > > > > >> > > > > Edg >> > > > > >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ >> > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Edg, There is an alternative. Quiet your mind the fuck down, so >> that >> > > you >> > > > > are not filtering everything through it. Deal responsibly with >> what is >> > > in >> > > > > your mind, not by denying it, judging it, or distracting away >> from it. >> > > Stop >> > > > > being life's bitch. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Once you do that, examine each component, including this >> retarded >> > > notion >> > > > > that you are forever locked in mental slavery. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > A fair amount of work and dedication to reach true peace of >> mind, and >> > > > > non-attachment, though not nearly as much work as you expend, >> dealing >> > > with >> > > > > who YOU thinks you is. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung >> wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Yogis are fond of saying "Not this, not this, not this." (In >> > > Sanskrit >> > > > > it's "Neti, neti, neti." >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > The portent is that no sensual input can be God -- no image, >> no >> > > sound, >> > > > > no whatever -- any representation of God to you from the senses >> must be >> > > > > just that -- symbols, not the real thingie. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > So the yogi refuses to mistake the map for the territory. >> Nothing >> > > but >> > > > > real actual God-God will do. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > So, if you are not feeling holy and divine -- YOU'RE RIGHT! >> Things, >> > > > > attributes, qualities and any combination thereof needs must be >> > > imperfect. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > The human mind's contents, for instance. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > And to expect perfection in the mundane is folly. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now, to reject everything as illusory is just too much work, >> so the >> > > > > yogi cheats. Turns out that if you merely reject the ego's claim >> of >> > > > > sentience, then you're h
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and not seen God, you might be a yogi!
In my mind Edg is a warrior so I spontaneously came up with that response - so what you say makes sense. Forget about Curtis though - he may be your pal but he is a wounded warrior and plays dirty. If you are not in to the game of superficial praise, adoration and niceties, just leave him alone. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Duveyoung wrote: > ** > > > On the other hand, after a hard day of battle the combatants of the > Mahabharata would have dinner together around the campfires like actors > backstage shedding their assumed characters. > > I kinda like that concept. But, I'm not fit for it, CUZ I EVEN CARRY > GRUDGES AGAINST PEOPLE WHO BOTHERED ME IN MY NIGHTLY DREAMS. > > I'm trying not to contend these days, but there it is -- Doc, somehow got > me to reply. > > If'n I was agunna contend it'd be against Curtis, but that guy just slips > my grip every time I try to get him in a hammerlock about God. So, Ravi, > there's the righteous battle you should be egging me on to enjoin. > > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > wrote: > > > > I'm glad you enjoyed it Edg because I was laughing hard after sending > that > > response. I had to google "krishna's words to arjuna in kurukshetra" to > get > > those lines. I felt your response was not as strong as I would like it to > > be but looking back it's a very good comeback. > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Duveyoung > wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > Hee hee, Ravi -- but you see, it's a heaping of coals upon the head to > > > show kindness to those who know not how to be kind. > > > > > > If Doc complains about any burning sensations, it's a tell. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Edguna - such words are not worthy of a hero like you. Your duty is > to > > > > fight. He has insulted you - take him down !!! > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Duveyoung > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um, Doc, um, er, thanks for the response, but I'm not certain of > the > > > > > tone/vibe. If you are targeting me individually instead of the > generic > > > use > > > > > of the word "you" then, I gotta ask if you'll be kind enough, > while I'm > > > > > waving this here bigass white flag, to flesh out the summation, > cuz, I > > > > > never know when some truth about myself has been denied by me until > > > someone > > > > > really intelligent backs me in a corner -- that's how I roll. You > > > think you > > > > > can do this service for me? It would grand of you. > > > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg, There is an alternative. Quiet your mind the fuck down, so > that > > > you > > > > > are not filtering everything through it. Deal responsibly with > what is > > > in > > > > > your mind, not by denying it, judging it, or distracting away from > it. > > > Stop > > > > > being life's bitch. > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you do that, examine each component, including this retarded > > > notion > > > > > that you are forever locked in mental slavery. > > > > > > > > > > > > A fair amount of work and dedication to reach true peace of > mind, and > > > > > non-attachment, though not nearly as much work as you expend, > dealing > > > with > > > > > who YOU thinks you is. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogis are fond of saying "Not this, not this, not this." (In > > > Sanskrit > > > > > it's "Neti, neti, neti." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The portent is that no sensual input can be God -- no image, no > > > sound, > > > > > no whatever -- any representation of God to you from the senses > must be > > > > > just that -- symbols, not the real thingie. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the yogi refuses to mistake the map for the territory. > Nothing > > > but > > > > > real actual God-God will do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, if you are not feeling holy and divine -- YOU'RE RIGHT! > Things, > > > > > attributes, qualities and any combination thereof needs must be > > > imperfect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The human mind's contents, for instance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And to expect perfection in the mundane is folly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, to reject everything as illusory is just too much work, > so the > > > > > yogi cheats. Turns out that if you merely reject the ego's claim of > > > > > sentience, then you're home free, because it is the ego that names > and > > > > > frames all of creation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I just said, "The little voice in your head is not you; > it's a > > > > > liar." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, that needy little twit has to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And when every thing's ephemerality h
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and not seen God, you might be a yogi!
I'm glad you enjoyed it Edg because I was laughing hard after sending that response. I had to google "krishna's words to arjuna in kurukshetra" to get those lines. I felt your response was not as strong as I would like it to be but looking back it's a very good comeback. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Duveyoung wrote: > ** > > > Hee hee, Ravi -- but you see, it's a heaping of coals upon the head to > show kindness to those who know not how to be kind. > > If Doc complains about any burning sensations, it's a tell. > > Edg > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > wrote: > > > > Edguna - such words are not worthy of a hero like you. Your duty is to > > fight. He has insulted you - take him down !!! > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Duveyoung > wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > Um, Doc, um, er, thanks for the response, but I'm not certain of the > > > tone/vibe. If you are targeting me individually instead of the generic > use > > > of the word "you" then, I gotta ask if you'll be kind enough, while I'm > > > waving this here bigass white flag, to flesh out the summation, cuz, I > > > never know when some truth about myself has been denied by me until > someone > > > really intelligent backs me in a corner -- that's how I roll. You > think you > > > can do this service for me? It would grand of you. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Edg, There is an alternative. Quiet your mind the fuck down, so that > you > > > are not filtering everything through it. Deal responsibly with what is > in > > > your mind, not by denying it, judging it, or distracting away from it. > Stop > > > being life's bitch. > > > > > > > > Once you do that, examine each component, including this retarded > notion > > > that you are forever locked in mental slavery. > > > > > > > > A fair amount of work and dedication to reach true peace of mind, and > > > non-attachment, though not nearly as much work as you expend, dealing > with > > > who YOU thinks you is. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogis are fond of saying "Not this, not this, not this." (In > Sanskrit > > > it's "Neti, neti, neti." > > > > > > > > > > The portent is that no sensual input can be God -- no image, no > sound, > > > no whatever -- any representation of God to you from the senses must be > > > just that -- symbols, not the real thingie. > > > > > > > > > > So the yogi refuses to mistake the map for the territory. Nothing > but > > > real actual God-God will do. > > > > > > > > > > So, if you are not feeling holy and divine -- YOU'RE RIGHT! Things, > > > attributes, qualities and any combination thereof needs must be > imperfect. > > > > > > > > > > The human mind's contents, for instance. > > > > > > > > > > And to expect perfection in the mundane is folly. > > > > > > > > > > Now, to reject everything as illusory is just too much work, so the > > > yogi cheats. Turns out that if you merely reject the ego's claim of > > > sentience, then you're home free, because it is the ego that names and > > > frames all of creation. > > > > > > > > > > Get that? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I just said, "The little voice in your head is not you; it's a > > > liar." > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, that needy little twit has to go. > > > > > > > > > > And when every thing's ephemerality has been established, guess > what, > > > GOD REMAINS REAL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and not seen God, you might be a yogi!
Edguna - such words are not worthy of a hero like you. Your duty is to fight. He has insulted you - take him down !!! On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Duveyoung wrote: > ** > > > Um, Doc, um, er, thanks for the response, but I'm not certain of the > tone/vibe. If you are targeting me individually instead of the generic use > of the word "you" then, I gotta ask if you'll be kind enough, while I'm > waving this here bigass white flag, to flesh out the summation, cuz, I > never know when some truth about myself has been denied by me until someone > really intelligent backs me in a corner -- that's how I roll. You think you > can do this service for me? It would grand of you. > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... > wrote: > > > > Edg, There is an alternative. Quiet your mind the fuck down, so that you > are not filtering everything through it. Deal responsibly with what is in > your mind, not by denying it, judging it, or distracting away from it. Stop > being life's bitch. > > > > Once you do that, examine each component, including this retarded notion > that you are forever locked in mental slavery. > > > > A fair amount of work and dedication to reach true peace of mind, and > non-attachment, though not nearly as much work as you expend, dealing with > who YOU thinks you is. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogis are fond of saying "Not this, not this, not this." (In Sanskrit > it's "Neti, neti, neti." > > > > > > The portent is that no sensual input can be God -- no image, no sound, > no whatever -- any representation of God to you from the senses must be > just that -- symbols, not the real thingie. > > > > > > So the yogi refuses to mistake the map for the territory. Nothing but > real actual God-God will do. > > > > > > So, if you are not feeling holy and divine -- YOU'RE RIGHT! Things, > attributes, qualities and any combination thereof needs must be imperfect. > > > > > > The human mind's contents, for instance. > > > > > > And to expect perfection in the mundane is folly. > > > > > > Now, to reject everything as illusory is just too much work, so the > yogi cheats. Turns out that if you merely reject the ego's claim of > sentience, then you're home free, because it is the ego that names and > frames all of creation. > > > > > > Get that? > > > > > > Yes, I just said, "The little voice in your head is not you; it's a > liar." > > > > > > Sorry, that needy little twit has to go. > > > > > > And when every thing's ephemerality has been established, guess what, > GOD REMAINS REAL! > > > > > > > >
