Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM sued in stabbing, slaying of students
On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:31 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: He probably shouldn't have been meditating at all, at least not TM which can cause significant side effects... Unlike other, more powerful techniques? Actually, sometimes, yes. The Rama trip attracted a fair number of former TMers who were tired of no results with TM. I knew at least three people who had experienced violent "twitching" (uncontrollable physical movements both in and out of meditation) with TM, ever since their teacher training courses. Upon learning the meditation taught by Rama, not only did all three start experiencing long periods of transcendence (5 to 10 unbroken minutes in each meditation, as opposed to almost never in their practice of TM), their twitching went away, never to return. Go figure. Who timed them and how was this done? The International Committee for Samadhic Timing Standards using a Transcendometer 500. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM sued in stabbing, slaying of students
On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:31 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Upon learning the meditation taught by Rama, not only did all three start experiencing long periods of transcendence (5 to 10 unbroken minutes in each meditation, as opposed to almost never in their practice of TM), their twitching went away, never to return. Go figure. Who timed them and how was this done? The International Committee for Samadhic Timing Standards using a Transcendometer 500. LIAR!! That's just more typically negative slander from Vaj. It was a Transcendometer 600 (the newer and more accurate model), as he is well aware. What is it that drives some people to LIE like this, when they *know* that their LIES will be exposed? At least he didn't snip anything maliciously to hide his nefarious intent this time, or put anything in quotes to imply that I had said it when he knows I didn't. Maybe my constant exposure of his horrible qualities is having a good effect after all. :-) :-) :-) Rats! Foiled again!Next time I'm sneakin' up with my nail. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM sued in stabbing, slaying of students
On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:00 PM, bbrigante wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:28 PM, bbrigante wrote: If Sem had only been involved in twice-daily TM, that might have been OK, but students were being told to meditate 10 minutes out of each class hour, effectively doubling meditation time, clearly not suitable for an unstable guy like Sem, who should have been allowed to opt out of participation in these extra TM sessions.He probably shouldn't have been meditating at all, at least not TM which can cause significant side effects... * Yeah, like enlightenment -- other types of meditation, which don't provide any light, but just dullness, don't create any problem for the mentally ill, because they do not introduce any light into their darkness, destabilizing their patched-together personalities.LOL, where do you get this stuff?This guy should have been doing Tai Chai or something like eating meat and potatoes. It's because TM is a powerful and effective meditation technique that overuse or inappropriate use (one size does not fit all in terms of time appropriate for TM practice) can result in destabilization episodes.Really bad side effects can occur with any meditation method. You just have to know how to adjust the method or when to stop. Having a "canned" checking routine could also be a problem--esp. if checking doesn't suggest *stopping*. I know a couple psychiatrists in the Spiritual Emergence Network and they can tell you plenty of stories on people over meditating with horrible endings, believe me. Many mentally-ill people who learn TM are told to only meditate for 10 mins/twice a day. Sem was doing 80 minutes a day in a group setting, way too much for an unstable guy. MUM should let students opt out of meditation completely, but this would mean that MUM administrators would not being able to get their jollies exercising totalitarian control over their subjects. Yes they should let people stop if need be, sheesh, seems like common sense to me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM sued in stabbing, slaying of students
Yeah, that undoubtedly would have done wonders for his psychosis. A meat and potatoes diet along with Tai Chi is what they always recommend when someone stabs someone else. Both you and Bob appear to be drinking the same Kool-Aid. He should have been under 24-hour watch in a hospital, where he couldn't hurt anyone. At the very least, after the first incident, he should have been in the care of the police. Sal On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Vaj wrote: LOL, where do you get this stuff? This guy should have been doing Tai Chai or something like eating meat and potatoes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM sued in stabbing, slaying of students
On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:24 PM, bbrigante wrote: Not that it matters to a personality like yours, which is only about half a click from that of Sem, Takes one to know one, Bob. http://geocities.com/bbrigante/index.html#murder MUM was planning to put Sem on a plane home the next morning, so they cannot claim that they did not see him as a serious threat. MUM mgmt was just negligent in handling the situation, Just negligent, after someone got stabbed? Gosh, Is that all? and they'll pay Good.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM sued in stabbing, slaying of students
On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:18 PM, bbrigante wrote: Ah, another vart from the great vaj-ay-jay, who gets his wisdom from the "Big Book of Demons," like the brilliant notion that sticking pins in people says whether they're enlightened or not. Sheesh I thought for sure we could at least talk you into to trying it on Bevan :-)...or is there still a restraining order? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM sued in stabbing, slaying of students
On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:50 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:28 PM, bbrigante wrote: If Sem had only been involved in twice-daily TM, that might have been OK, but students were being told to meditate 10 minutes out of each class hour, effectively doubling meditation time, clearly not suitable for an unstable guy like Sem, who should have been allowed to opt out of participation in these extra TM sessions. He probably shouldn't have been meditating at all, at least not TM which can cause significant side effects... He was probably just trying to see if the dude he stabbed in the chest was authentically experiencing Samadhi... LOL. Hey that might be a good defense in India! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM sued in stabbing, slaying of students
On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:Yeah, that undoubtedly would have done wonders for his psychosis. A meat and potatoes diet along with Tai Chi is what they always recommend when someone stabs someone else. Both you and Bob appear to be drinking the same Kool-Aid. He should have been under 24-hour watch in a hospital, where he couldn't hurt anyone. At the very least, after the first incident, he should have been in the care of the police. Sal You're right on this one Sal: the one thing this kid needed was to be blue papered. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
