Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why India is Fascinated with Astrology
On 9/25/2014 2:00 PM, Duveyoung wrote: I put up my first Web sites in 1996, and for YEARS before that I was already thinking I should do so. Therefore, it's not a big stretch for many an astrologer to be hep to the Web's eventualities in the early 90s. First computer I owned was in 1980 -- 16 years before the Web had it's first 500,000 surfers, but there was tons of talk everywhere in all the industrial rags about networking etc. Not to besmirch your beloved adviser, but rather to challenge your standards-for-approving-truth-tellersseems to me hindsight is fudging your factors. I'm betting he knew you pretty good in real life, before he cast the chart. /How much would you be willing to wager?/ Also note that some folks are VERY handy at sussing out folks ON THE SPOT. Almost all my readings included stuff like you'll be buying a lot of electronics in the next five year period. Who can't that be true about, eh? To me, astrological reports are mere Rorschach tests.we hear in them what we want to hear, have to hear, can't help but hear, are designed to hear, etc. And, hey, if framed thusly, the casting of a chart can be, well, go figure, a predictive process in that the person gets to see what they're projecting onto the charts, NOW, and those projections, yup, why sure they'll be somewhat predictive since they're based on the person's slow-to-evolve-actualities in the now -- not the stars. I don't see the charts laying out personal evolution's course even in a very broad fashion, but because the person being read is RIGHT THERE, what astrologer wouldn't use what's-to-be-seen as part of the predictive process? A person in a wheelchair is not going to get a oh, you'll walk in ten years from ANY astrologer no matter how piled-high the signs can be. I have six planets in Leo, and I should be king of the world. Yeah, right.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 9/25/2014 2:00 PM, Duveyoung wrote: I put up my first Web sites in 1996, and for YEARS before that I was already thinking I should do so. Therefore, it's not a big stretch for many an astrologer to be hep to the Web's eventualities in the early 90s. First computer I owned was in 1980 -- 16 years before the Web had it's first 500,000 surfers, but there was tons of talk everywhere in all the industrial rags about networking etc. Not to besmirch your beloved adviser, but rather to challenge your standards-for-approving-truth-tellersseems to me hindsight is fudging your factors. I'm betting he knew you pretty good in real life, before he cast the chart. How much would you be willing to wager? I'll hold the wager. South America, here I come! Also note that some folks are VERY handy at sussing out folks ON THE SPOT. Almost all my readings included stuff like you'll be buying a lot of electronics in the next five year period. Who can't that be true about, eh? To me, astrological reports are mere Rorschach tests.I used them here on some of the Listed Boys. That was before the were listed as incorrigible (and incurable).we hear in them what we want to hear, have to hear, can't help but hear, are designed to hear, etc. And, hey, if framed thusly, the casting of a chart can be, well, go figure, a predictive process in that the person gets to see what they're projecting onto the charts, NOW, and those projections, yup, why sure they'll be somewhat predictive since they're based on the person's slow-to-evolve-actualities in the now -- not the stars. I don't see the charts laying out personal evolution's course even in a very broad fashion, but because the person being read is RIGHT THERE, what astrologer wouldn't use what's-to-be-seen as part of the predictive process? A person in a wheelchair is not going to get a oh, you'll walk in ten years from ANY astrologer no matter how piled-high the signs can be. I have six planets in Leo, and I should be king of the world. Yeah, right. Dave, you could be 'king of the world' if you tried. Many kings are made (kinda like the mafioso). Just a little encouragement from someone who wants the best for you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why India is Fascinated with Astrology
I was going to educate some of the science illiterate commenters on the piece who appear to think astronomy came first. But get this, Stalinist NPR wanted my Disqus login so they could comment on my behalf. Nah gonna happen! First we have the right going looney and now the left. On 09/25/2014 09:36 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Some FFL members here will delight with this NPR report on India and astrology while other members entertain us with their impressions of Gerald McBoing Boing. Some of us have studied with K N Rao. Wow, he saw that America will be aggressive later this year, how do they come up with such unlikely scenarios? http://www.npr.org/2014/09/25/351373672/why-india-is-fascinated-with-astrology
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I was going to educate some of the science illiterate commenters on the piece who appear to think astronomy came first. But get this, Stalinist NPR wanted my Disqus login so they could comment on my behalf. Nah gonna happen! First we have the right going looney and now the left. Comment on your behalf? I don't like the sound of that. Here you are correct, astrology definitely came first, but how it continues to survive in this day and age is beyond me ;-) On 09/25/2014 09:36 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Some FFL members here will delight with this NPR report on India and astrology while other members entertain us with their impressions of Gerald McBoing Boing. Some of us have studied with K N Rao. Wow, he saw that America will be aggressive later this year, how do they come up with such unlikely scenarios? http://www.npr.org/2014/09/25/351373672/why-india-is-fascinated-with-astrology http://www.npr.org/2014/09/25/351373672/why-india-is-fascinated-with-astrology
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On 09/25/2014 09:57 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I was going to educate some of the science illiterate commenters on the piece who appear to think astronomy came first. But get this, Stalinist NPR wanted my Disqus login so they could comment on my behalf. Nah gonna happen! First we have the right going looney and now the left. Comment on your behalf? I don't like the sound of that. Here you are correct, astrology definitely came first, but how it continues to survive in this day and age is beyond me ;-) Well for one thing K N Rao, who did a reading for me, accurately predicted that I would have a business that would run on it's own. That was the early 1990s and no one would have known that people would put up websites to sell things and they would be automated. Like I say, astrology as long as the birth data is correct will always ring true but more as a weather report and not with black and white exactness. But that's far better than a WAG (Wild Ass Guess). On 09/25/2014 09:36 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Some FFL members here will delight with this NPR report on India and astrology while other members entertain us with their impressions of Gerald McBoing Boing. Some of us have studied with K N Rao. Wow, he saw that America will be aggressive later this year, how do they come up with such unlikely scenarios? http://www.npr.org/2014/09/25/351373672/why-india-is-fascinated-with-astrology
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why India is Fascinated with Astrology
I put up my first Web sites in 1996, and for YEARS before that I was already thinking I should do so. Therefore, it's not a big stretch for many an astrologer to be hep to the Web's eventualities in the early 90s. First computer I owned was in 1980 -- 16 years before the Web had it's first 500,000 surfers, but there was tons of talk everywhere in all the industrial rags about networking etc. Not to besmirch your beloved adviser, but rather to challenge your standards-for-approving-truth-tellersseems to me hindsight is fudging your factors. I'm betting he knew you pretty good in real life, before he cast the chart. Also note that some folks are VERY handy at sussing out folks ON THE SPOT. Almost all my readings included stuff like you'll be buying a lot of electronics in the next five year period. Who can't that be true about, eh? To me, astrological reports are mere Rorschach tests.we hear in them what we want to hear, have to hear, can't help but hear, are designed to hear, etc. And, hey, if framed thusly, the casting of a chart can be, well, go figure, a predictive process in that the person gets to see what they're projecting onto the charts, NOW, and those projections, yup, why sure they'll be somewhat predictive since they're based on the person's slow-to-evolve-actualities in the now -- not the stars. I don't see the charts laying out personal evolution's course even in a very broad fashion, but because the person being read is RIGHT THERE, what astrologer wouldn't use what's-to-be-seen as part of the predictive process? A person in a wheelchair is not going to get a oh, you'll walk in ten years from ANY astrologer no matter how piled-high the signs can be. I have six planets in Leo, and I should be king of the world. Yeah, right.
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This was probably in 1993 or 94. Rao didn't even own a computer back then. In his next US visit he had acquired a laptop and was figuring out how to use it during his visit. Rao is not into fudge factors and has principals by how you should judge a horoscope. You can discount astrology if you want and there are lots of charlatans and plain bad astrologers out there. But I disregard opinions on astrology unless they come from people have actually learned it and tested it. BTW, Rao didn't know me when he did the reading. I was invited by Dennis Harness to attend Rao's course on Jamini astrology the following weekend. I barely knew anything about jyotish at the time. At that weekend course I became friends with many of the US jyotish luminaries such as David Frawley. Rao is interesting as personality because he was an assistant to Gandhi as a teenager. His father was a controversial Indian newspaper editor. He learned astrology from his mother. Rao was put under house arrest by Indira Gandhi. He wrote a book on the Nehru dynasty and how they were fascists. He also traveled throughout India to chronicle different techniques of village astrologers. He also told us about Maharishi calling him to ask if he would head Maharishi Jyotish and why he turned him down. On 09/25/2014 12:00 PM, Duveyoung wrote: I put up my first Web sites in 1996, and for YEARS before that I was already thinking I should do so. Therefore, it's not a big stretch for many an astrologer to be hep to the Web's eventualities in the early 90s. First computer I owned was in 1980 -- 16 years before the Web had it's first 500,000 surfers, but there was tons of talk everywhere in all the industrial rags about networking etc. Not to besmirch your beloved adviser, but rather to challenge your standards-for-approving-truth-tellersseems to me hindsight is fudging your factors. I'm betting he knew you pretty good in real life, before he cast the chart. Also note that some folks are VERY handy at sussing out folks ON THE SPOT. Almost all my readings included stuff like you'll be buying a lot of electronics in the next five year period. Who can't that be true about, eh? To me, astrological reports are mere Rorschach tests.we hear in them what we want to hear, have to hear, can't help but hear, are designed to hear, etc. And, hey, if framed thusly, the casting of a chart can be, well, go figure, a predictive process in that the person gets to see what they're projecting onto the charts, NOW, and those projections, yup, why sure they'll be somewhat predictive since they're based on the person's slow-to-evolve-actualities in the now -- not the stars. I don't see the charts laying out personal evolution's course even in a very broad fashion, but because the person being read is RIGHT THERE, what astrologer wouldn't use what's-to-be-seen as part of the predictive process? A person in a wheelchair is not going to get a oh, you'll walk in ten years from ANY astrologer no matter how piled-high the signs can be. I have six planets in Leo, and I should be king of the world. Yeah, right.
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Edg, Six planets in Leo indicate that the person has a fiery temperament since Leo is a fiery sign. With most of the planets bunched in one sign, a wise astrologer would and should look at the navamsha chart to see if the planets have dispersed onto the other signs. As such, he or she can make better predictions. Some astrologers have commented that KN Rao is very good at jyotish because he is also intuitive, aside from being technically proficient in knowing the jyotish rules of interpretation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I put up my first Web sites in 1996, and for YEARS before that I was already thinking I should do so. Therefore, it's not a big stretch for many an astrologer to be hep to the Web's eventualities in the early 90s. First computer I owned was in 1980 -- 16 years before the Web had it's first 500,000 surfers, but there was tons of talk everywhere in all the industrial rags about networking etc. Not to besmirch your beloved adviser, but rather to challenge your standards-for-approving-truth-tellersseems to me hindsight is fudging your factors. I'm betting he knew you pretty good in real life, before he cast the chart. Also note that some folks are VERY handy at sussing out folks ON THE SPOT. Almost all my readings included stuff like you'll be buying a lot of electronics in the next five year period. Who can't that be true about, eh? To me, astrological reports are mere Rorschach tests.we hear in them what we want to hear, have to hear, can't help but hear, are designed to hear, etc. And, hey, if framed thusly, the casting of a chart can be, well, go figure, a predictive process in that the person gets to see what they're projecting onto the charts, NOW, and those projections, yup, why sure they'll be somewhat predictive since they're based on the person's slow-to-evolve-actualities in the now -- not the stars. I don't see the charts laying out personal evolution's course even in a very broad fashion, but because the person being read is RIGHT THERE, what astrologer wouldn't use what's-to-be-seen as part of the predictive process? A person in a wheelchair is not going to get a oh, you'll walk in ten years from ANY astrologer no matter how piled-high the signs can be. I have six planets in Leo, and I should be king of the world. Yeah, right.
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KN Rao is a very intelligent man. He did not rely on jyotish for a living. From what he told us, he was the equivalent of the Auditor General of the US General Accounting Office in India. But, through jyotish, he also knew his limitations. He had the conjunction of Venus and Mars in his first house. His mother told him that as a mother she would like him to get married. But, as an astrologer, she would not and did not recommend marriage for him. IMO, this same conjunction was the cause of the controversy that he caused among the jyotishis here in the USA. If you're not aware of this controversy, he wrote a book in which he criticized most or all of the jyotishis here in the USA, after he spent a year in the states lecturing about his methods of interpreting the birth chart. He even told us that he was losing his spirituality while he was staying here in the states. He mentioned about gay people seeing him for compatibility analysis. I believe he thought, as a devout Hindu, this was anathema. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : This was probably in 1993 or 94. Rao didn't even own a computer back then. In his next US visit he had acquired a laptop and was figuring out how to use it during his visit. Rao is not into fudge factors and has principals by how you should judge a horoscope. You can discount astrology if you want and there are lots of charlatans and plain bad astrologers out there. But I disregard opinions on astrology unless they come from people have actually learned it and tested it. BTW, Rao didn't know me when he did the reading. I was invited by Dennis Harness to attend Rao's course on Jamini astrology the following weekend. I barely knew anything about jyotish at the time. At that weekend course I became friends with many of the US jyotish luminaries such as David Frawley. Rao is interesting as personality because he was an assistant to Gandhi as a teenager. His father was a controversial Indian newspaper editor. He learned astrology from his mother. Rao was put under house arrest by Indira Gandhi. He wrote a book on the Nehru dynasty and how they were fascists. He also traveled throughout India to chronicle different techniques of village astrologers. He also told us about Maharishi calling him to ask if he would head Maharishi Jyotish and why he turned him down. On 09/25/2014 12:00 PM, Duveyoung wrote: I put up my first Web sites in 1996, and for YEARS before that I was already thinking I should do so. Therefore, it's not a big stretch for many an astrologer to be hep to the Web's eventualities in the early 90s. First computer I owned was in 1980 -- 16 years before the Web had it's first 500,000 surfers, but there was tons of talk everywhere in all the industrial rags about networking etc. Not to besmirch your beloved adviser, but rather to challenge your standards-for-approving-truth-tellersseems to me hindsight is fudging your factors. I'm betting he knew you pretty good in real life, before he cast the chart. Also note that some folks are VERY handy at sussing out folks ON THE SPOT. Almost all my readings included stuff like you'll be buying a lot of electronics in the next five year period. Who can't that be true about, eh? To me, astrological reports are mere Rorschach tests.we hear in them what we want to hear, have to hear, can't help but hear, are designed to hear, etc. And, hey, if framed thusly, the casting of a chart can be, well, go figure, a predictive process in that the person gets to see what they're projecting onto the charts, NOW, and those projections, yup, why sure they'll be somewhat predictive since they're based on the person's slow-to-evolve-actualities in the now -- not the stars. I don't see the charts laying out personal evolution's course even in a very broad fashion, but because the person being read is RIGHT THERE, what astrologer wouldn't use what's-to-be-seen as part of the predictive process? A person in a wheelchair is not going to get a oh, you'll walk in ten years from ANY astrologer no matter how piled-high the signs can be. I have six planets in Leo, and I should be king of the world. Yeah, right.
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Yes, I recall the controversy. Rao also criticized US astrologers for their lack of interest in sports. He was a big soccer and cricket fan. However his visits seemed to open up the door for ACVA bringing in more Indian astrologers to symposiums. He also had a tendency to digress a lot when teaching which annoyed many of the US astrologers. On 09/25/2014 12:49 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: KN Rao is a very intelligent man. He did not rely on jyotish for a living. From what he told us, he was the equivalent of the Auditor General of the US General Accounting Office in India. But, through jyotish, he also knew his limitations. He had the conjunction of Venus and Mars in his first house. His mother told him that as a mother she would like him to get married. But, as an astrologer, she would not and did not recommend marriage for him. IMO, this same conjunction was the cause of the controversy that he caused among the jyotishis here in the USA. If you're not aware of this controversy, he wrote a book in which he criticized most or all of the jyotishis here in the USA, after he spent a year in the states lecturing about his methods of interpreting the birth chart. He even told us that he was losing his spirituality while he was staying here in the states. He mentioned about gay people seeing him for compatibility analysis. I believe he thought, as a devout Hindu, this was anathema. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : This was probably in 1993 or 94. Rao didn't even own a computer back then. In his next US visit he had acquired a laptop and was figuring out how to use it during his visit. Rao is not into fudge factors and has principals by how you should judge a horoscope. You can discount astrology if you want and there are lots of charlatans and plain bad astrologers out there. But I disregard opinions on astrology unless they come from people have actually learned it and tested it. BTW, Rao didn't know me when he did the reading. I was invited by Dennis Harness to attend Rao's course on Jamini astrology the following weekend. I barely knew anything about jyotish at the time. At that weekend course I became friends with many of the US jyotish luminaries such as David Frawley. Rao is interesting as personality because he was an assistant to Gandhi as a teenager. His father was a controversial Indian newspaper editor. He learned astrology from his mother. Rao was put under house arrest by Indira Gandhi. He wrote a book on the Nehru dynasty and how they were fascists. He also traveled throughout India to chronicle different techniques of village astrologers. He also told us about Maharishi calling him to ask if he would head Maharishi Jyotish and why he turned him down. On 09/25/2014 12:00 PM, Duveyoung wrote: I put up my first Web sites in 1996, and for YEARS before that I was already thinking I should do so. Therefore, it's not a big stretch for many an astrologer to be hep to the Web's eventualities in the early 90s. First computer I owned was in 1980 -- 16 years before the Web had it's first 500,000 surfers, but there was tons of talk everywhere in all the industrial rags about networking etc. Not to besmirch your beloved adviser, but rather to challenge your standards-for-approving-truth-tellersseems to me hindsight is fudging your factors. I'm betting he knew you pretty good in real life, before he cast the chart. Also note that some folks are VERY handy at sussing out folks ON THE SPOT. Almost all my readings included stuff like you'll be buying a lot of electronics in the next five year period. Who can't that be true about, eh? To me, astrological reports are mere Rorschach tests.we hear in them what we want to hear, have to hear, can't help but hear, are designed to hear, etc. And, hey, if framed thusly, the casting of a chart can be, well, go figure, a predictive process in that the person gets to see what they're projecting onto the charts, NOW, and those projections, yup, why sure they'll be somewhat predictive since they're based on the person's slow-to-evolve-actualities in the now -- not the stars. I don't see the charts laying out personal evolution's course even in a very broad fashion, but because the person being read is RIGHT THERE, what astrologer wouldn't use what's-to-be-seen as part of the predictive process? A person in a wheelchair is not going to get a oh, you'll walk in ten years from ANY astrologer no matter how piled-high the signs can be. I have six planets in Leo, and I should be king of the world. Yeah, right.
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Frankly, after KN Rao left, ACVA was not able to sustain the interest of people in jyotish. I soon discontinued my membership with them. Then, when I moved back here in California from Seattle, I started attending seminars made by Sanjay Rath. Then, he too created another controversy involving his students in the San Francisco Bay Area. So, we now end up with no teachers coming from India to lecture about jyotish. Who's next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Yes, I recall the controversy. Rao also criticized US astrologers for their lack of interest in sports. He was a big soccer and cricket fan. However his visits seemed to open up the door for ACVA bringing in more Indian astrologers to symposiums. He also had a tendency to digress a lot when teaching which annoyed many of the US astrologers. On 09/25/2014 12:49 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: KN Rao is a very intelligent man. He did not rely on jyotish for a living. From what he told us, he was the equivalent of the Auditor General of the US General Accounting Office in India. But, through jyotish, he also knew his limitations. He had the conjunction of Venus and Mars in his first house. His mother told him that as a mother she would like him to get married. But, as an astrologer, she would not and did not recommend marriage for him. IMO, this same conjunction was the cause of the controversy that he caused among the jyotishis here in the USA. If you're not aware of this controversy, he wrote a book in which he criticized most or all of the jyotishis here in the USA, after he spent a year in the states lecturing about his methods of interpreting the birth chart. He even told us that he was losing his spirituality while he was staying here in the states. He mentioned about gay people seeing him for compatibility analysis. I believe he thought, as a devout Hindu, this was anathema. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : This was probably in 1993 or 94. Rao didn't even own a computer back then. In his next US visit he had acquired a laptop and was figuring out how to use it during his visit. Rao is not into fudge factors and has principals by how you should judge a horoscope. You can discount astrology if you want and there are lots of charlatans and plain bad astrologers out there. But I disregard opinions on astrology unless they come from people have actually learned it and tested it. BTW, Rao didn't know me when he did the reading. I was invited by Dennis Harness to attend Rao's course on Jamini astrology the following weekend. I barely knew anything about jyotish at the time. At that weekend course I became friends with many of the US jyotish luminaries such as David Frawley. Rao is interesting as personality because he was an assistant to Gandhi as a teenager. His father was a controversial Indian newspaper editor. He learned astrology from his mother. Rao was put under house arrest by Indira Gandhi. He wrote a book on the Nehru dynasty and how they were fascists. He also traveled throughout India to chronicle different techniques of village astrologers. He also told us about Maharishi calling him to ask if he would head Maharishi Jyotish and why he turned him down. On 09/25/2014 12:00 PM, Duveyoung wrote: I put up my first Web sites in 1996, and for YEARS before that I was already thinking I should do so. Therefore, it's not a big stretch for many an astrologer to be hep to the Web's eventualities in the early 90s. First computer I owned was in 1980 -- 16 years before the Web had it's first 500,000 surfers, but there was tons of talk everywhere in all the industrial rags about networking etc. Not to besmirch your beloved adviser, but rather to challenge your standards-for-approving-truth-tellersseems to me hindsight is fudging your factors. I'm betting he knew you pretty good in real life, before he cast the chart. Also note that some folks are VERY handy at sussing out folks ON THE SPOT. Almost all my readings included stuff like you'll be buying a lot of electronics in the next five year period. Who can't that be true about, eh? To me, astrological reports are mere Rorschach tests.we hear in them what we want to hear, have to hear, can't help but hear, are designed to hear, etc. And, hey, if framed thusly, the casting of a chart can be, well, go figure, a predictive process in that the person gets to see what they're projecting onto the charts, NOW, and those projections, yup, why sure they'll be somewhat predictive since they're based on the person's slow-to-evolve-actualities in the now -- not the stars. I don't see the charts laying out personal evolution's course even in a very broad fashion, but because the person being read is RIGHT THERE, what
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I think AVCA's problem was not due to Rao. It was due to their push for certification. Some western jyotishis scoffed at the idea since India had no such program. Either you're good at jyotish or you're not. The second problem was not ACVA's but the economy. In the 1990s folks including new agers and more expendable income and could afford make jaunts to places where ACVA held symposiums. We seem these days to have austerity being pushed on us though much more slowly than in other countries. A lot of workshops were held at Open Secret Bookstore which still has events but are more expensive than in the past and plus you get to help pay for the world's most expensive bridge to get there. http://www.opensecretbookstore.com/Events.html On 09/25/2014 01:48 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Frankly, after KN Rao left, ACVA was not able to sustain the interest of people in jyotish. I soon discontinued my membership with them. Then, when I moved back here in California from Seattle, I started attending seminars made by Sanjay Rath. Then, he too created another controversy involving his students in the San Francisco Bay Area. So, we now end up with no teachers coming from India to lecture about jyotish. Who's next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Yes, I recall the controversy. Rao also criticized US astrologers for their lack of interest in sports. He was a big soccer and cricket fan. However his visits seemed to open up the door for ACVA bringing in more Indian astrologers to symposiums. He also had a tendency to digress a lot when teaching which annoyed many of the US astrologers. On 09/25/2014 12:49 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: KN Rao is a very intelligent man. He did not rely on jyotish for a living. From what he told us, he was the equivalent of the Auditor General of the US General Accounting Office in India. But, through jyotish, he also knew his limitations. He had the conjunction of Venus and Mars in his first house. His mother told him that as a mother she would like him to get married. But, as an astrologer, she would not and did not recommend marriage for him. IMO, this same conjunction was the cause of the controversy that he caused among the jyotishis here in the USA. If you're not aware of this controversy, he wrote a book in which he criticized most or all of the jyotishis here in the USA, after he spent a year in the states lecturing about his methods of interpreting the birth chart. He even told us that he was losing his spirituality while he was staying here in the states. He mentioned about gay people seeing him for compatibility analysis. I believe he thought, as a devout Hindu, this was anathema. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : This was probably in 1993 or 94. Rao didn't even own a computer back then. In his next US visit he had acquired a laptop and was figuring out how to use it during his visit. Rao is not into fudge factors and has principals by how you should judge a horoscope. You can discount astrology if you want and there are lots of charlatans and plain bad astrologers out there. But I disregard opinions on astrology unless they come from people have actually learned it and tested it. BTW, Rao didn't know me when he did the reading. I was invited by Dennis Harness to attend Rao's course on Jamini astrology the following weekend. I barely knew anything about jyotish at the time. At that weekend course I became friends with many of the US jyotish luminaries such as David Frawley. Rao is interesting as personality because he was an assistant to Gandhi as a teenager. His father was a controversial Indian newspaper editor. He learned astrology from his mother. Rao was put under house arrest by Indira Gandhi. He wrote a book on the Nehru dynasty and how they were fascists. He also traveled throughout India to chronicle different techniques of village astrologers. He also told us about Maharishi calling him to ask if he would head Maharishi Jyotish and why he turned him down. On 09/25/2014 12:00 PM, Duveyoung wrote: I put up my first Web sites in 1996, and for YEARS before that I was already thinking I should do so. Therefore, it's not a big stretch for many an astrologer to be hep to the Web's eventualities in the early 90s. First computer I owned was in 1980 -- 16 years before the Web had it's first 500,000 surfers, but there was tons of talk everywhere in all the industrial rags about networking etc. Not to besmirch your beloved adviser, but rather to challenge your standards-for-approving-truth-tellersseems to me hindsight is fudging your factors. I'm betting he knew you pretty good in real life, before he cast the chart. Also note that some folks are VERY handy at sussing out folks ON THE
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Yeah, I went there a few years to see if they're offering any jyotish classes. I found that they usually have Hart Defouw teaching classes there. But his classes are very expensive. So, now, the best source of new jyotish materials is YouTube, IMO. If Umang Taneja ever lectures here in the Bay Area, I'll pay to attend his classes. I think Sanjay Rath has overstayed his welcome here in California. But it's also possible that he only wants to see his most ardent students here when he visits to lecture. As of now, I haven't received any flyers to attend his seminars.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Edg, Six planets in Leo indicate that the person has a fiery temperament since Leo is a fiery sign. With most of the planets bunched in one sign, a wise astrologer would and should look at the navamsha chart to see if the planets have dispersed onto the other signs. As such, he or she can make better predictions. Some astrologers have commented that KN Rao is very good at jyotish because he is also intuitive, aside from being technically proficient in knowing the jyotish rules of interpretation. John, do you know that you are about the most reasonable person at FFL? Did you know that you come across as a gentle man and an intelligent one at that? You seem very even-tempered without the drabness. No matter what you keep your cool. I guess that makes you cool. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I put up my first Web sites in 1996, and for YEARS before that I was already thinking I should do so. Therefore, it's not a big stretch for many an astrologer to be hep to the Web's eventualities in the early 90s. First computer I owned was in 1980 -- 16 years before the Web had it's first 500,000 surfers, but there was tons of talk everywhere in all the industrial rags about networking etc. Not to besmirch your beloved adviser, but rather to challenge your standards-for-approving-truth-tellersseems to me hindsight is fudging your factors. I'm betting he knew you pretty good in real life, before he cast the chart. Also note that some folks are VERY handy at sussing out folks ON THE SPOT. Almost all my readings included stuff like you'll be buying a lot of electronics in the next five year period. Who can't that be true about, eh? To me, astrological reports are mere Rorschach tests.we hear in them what we want to hear, have to hear, can't help but hear, are designed to hear, etc. And, hey, if framed thusly, the casting of a chart can be, well, go figure, a predictive process in that the person gets to see what they're projecting onto the charts, NOW, and those projections, yup, why sure they'll be somewhat predictive since they're based on the person's slow-to-evolve-actualities in the now -- not the stars. I don't see the charts laying out personal evolution's course even in a very broad fashion, but because the person being read is RIGHT THERE, what astrologer wouldn't use what's-to-be-seen as part of the predictive process? A person in a wheelchair is not going to get a oh, you'll walk in ten years from ANY astrologer no matter how piled-high the signs can be. I have six planets in Leo, and I should be king of the world. Yeah, right.
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Ann, Thank you for the compliment. However, I do poke at some people here just for fun. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Edg, Six planets in Leo indicate that the person has a fiery temperament since Leo is a fiery sign. With most of the planets bunched in one sign, a wise astrologer would and should look at the navamsha chart to see if the planets have dispersed onto the other signs. As such, he or she can make better predictions. Some astrologers have commented that KN Rao is very good at jyotish because he is also intuitive, aside from being technically proficient in knowing the jyotish rules of interpretation. John, do you know that you are about the most reasonable person at FFL? Did you know that you come across as a gentle man and an intelligent one at that? You seem very even-tempered without the drabness. No matter what you keep your cool. I guess that makes you cool. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I put up my first Web sites in 1996, and for YEARS before that I was already thinking I should do so. Therefore, it's not a big stretch for many an astrologer to be hep to the Web's eventualities in the early 90s. First computer I owned was in 1980 -- 16 years before the Web had it's first 500,000 surfers, but there was tons of talk everywhere in all the industrial rags about networking etc. Not to besmirch your beloved adviser, but rather to challenge your standards-for-approving-truth-tellersseems to me hindsight is fudging your factors. I'm betting he knew you pretty good in real life, before he cast the chart. Also note that some folks are VERY handy at sussing out folks ON THE SPOT. Almost all my readings included stuff like you'll be buying a lot of electronics in the next five year period. Who can't that be true about, eh? To me, astrological reports are mere Rorschach tests.we hear in them what we want to hear, have to hear, can't help but hear, are designed to hear, etc. And, hey, if framed thusly, the casting of a chart can be, well, go figure, a predictive process in that the person gets to see what they're projecting onto the charts, NOW, and those projections, yup, why sure they'll be somewhat predictive since they're based on the person's slow-to-evolve-actualities in the now -- not the stars. I don't see the charts laying out personal evolution's course even in a very broad fashion, but because the person being read is RIGHT THERE, what astrologer wouldn't use what's-to-be-seen as part of the predictive process? A person in a wheelchair is not going to get a oh, you'll walk in ten years from ANY astrologer no matter how piled-high the signs can be. I have six planets in Leo, and I should be king of the world. Yeah, right.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Ann, Thank you for the compliment. However, I do poke at some people here just for fun. Really? They all seem like caresses in comparison to other people's pokes. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Edg, Six planets in Leo indicate that the person has a fiery temperament since Leo is a fiery sign. With most of the planets bunched in one sign, a wise astrologer would and should look at the navamsha chart to see if the planets have dispersed onto the other signs. As such, he or she can make better predictions. Some astrologers have commented that KN Rao is very good at jyotish because he is also intuitive, aside from being technically proficient in knowing the jyotish rules of interpretation. John, do you know that you are about the most reasonable person at FFL? Did you know that you come across as a gentle man and an intelligent one at that? You seem very even-tempered without the drabness. No matter what you keep your cool. I guess that makes you cool. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I put up my first Web sites in 1996, and for YEARS before that I was already thinking I should do so. Therefore, it's not a big stretch for many an astrologer to be hep to the Web's eventualities in the early 90s. First computer I owned was in 1980 -- 16 years before the Web had it's first 500,000 surfers, but there was tons of talk everywhere in all the industrial rags about networking etc. Not to besmirch your beloved adviser, but rather to challenge your standards-for-approving-truth-tellersseems to me hindsight is fudging your factors. I'm betting he knew you pretty good in real life, before he cast the chart. Also note that some folks are VERY handy at sussing out folks ON THE SPOT. Almost all my readings included stuff like you'll be buying a lot of electronics in the next five year period. Who can't that be true about, eh? To me, astrological reports are mere Rorschach tests.we hear in them what we want to hear, have to hear, can't help but hear, are designed to hear, etc. And, hey, if framed thusly, the casting of a chart can be, well, go figure, a predictive process in that the person gets to see what they're projecting onto the charts, NOW, and those projections, yup, why sure they'll be somewhat predictive since they're based on the person's slow-to-evolve-actualities in the now -- not the stars. I don't see the charts laying out personal evolution's course even in a very broad fashion, but because the person being read is RIGHT THERE, what astrologer wouldn't use what's-to-be-seen as part of the predictive process? A person in a wheelchair is not going to get a oh, you'll walk in ten years from ANY astrologer no matter how piled-high the signs can be. I have six planets in Leo, and I should be king of the world. Yeah, right.
