Re: [FairfieldLife] Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind
Quite a bit - Those mental patterns were instilled through brainwashing. Lenz, unfortunately, knew what he was doing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I had no idea that the guru of the Turq was THAT crazy. Thanks for posting, it makes you wonder how much of that craziness the Turq is carrying with him even today... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : 100 % bullshit, MJ. Have you read the book? ...I didn't think so... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Movement does and Marshy did the exact same things -engendering fear about what will happen if you don't go to the Dome, if you go see other gurus, if you get "off the program". People who live in glass houses, Fleet From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 8:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind If you want to know how Barry thinks, and how he got so screwed up, there is a free ebook, from someone who was very close to Freddie. The name of the book is: TAKE ME FOR A RIDE Coming Of Age In A Destructive Cult, by Mark E. Laxer. Available on the link that Richard posted. Here are some quotes from the book. When I read them, they sounded strangely familiar. Note: Freddie used to call himself, "Atmananada" (Soul of Love), before he decided he was the final incarnation of Vishnu. The guy sounds VERY CRAZY: Atmananda exposed his Big Nurse nature in other ways. He claimed, for instance, that he had to "press all the right buttons" to help people overcome their resistance to the Light and to him…. He taught me to fear what would happen if I left the Centre. "You know too much to leave. It's a greedy, materialistic world out there. Your soul would be miserable. Besides, the Forces would flatten you like a bug. You would lose thousands of lifetimes of evolution." He taught me to fear, not just the Forces but people, particularly old friends and family. "It's best if you don't tell them what we do here. Believe me, they won't understand. They'll end up blocking your progress and sapping your power.“… = "Atmananda," I suddenly announced. "I *saw* the Warriors." Others in the circle soon *saw* them too. Atmananda held desert trips once or twice a month and, by mid-1983, followers *saw* him walking above the ground on a "cushion of light," flying to distant mountains, sending columns of light into the sky, and causing constellations to gyrate and disappear. On one starlit night, Atmananda raised his hands above his head. As he slowly lowered them, he made a low, whistling sound like the wind. "What did you *see*?" he asked afterward. "I didn't *see* anything," one new follower bemoaned. "Advanced psychic vision is necessary to perceive what I am doing… == "Are you Rama?" someone asked. "Yes," he replied. "I am Rama, the last incarnation of Vishnu. You people think that I am a person, but I am not. Over the years I watched my various selves fade away. I fought the process tooth and nail--like each of you are doing now. But it was in vain. I could not stop the process of dissolution. I had to admit that I was no longer a person. This morning I suddenly knew who I was. I have been cycling...I am beginning to remember...Eternity has named me Rama...Rama most clearly reflects my strand of luminosity...We're at the end of a cycle...At this time, Vishnu takes incarnation as a person...Vishnu is that aspect of God that preserves and protects life...Rama...the last incarnation of Vishnu..." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 10/17/2014 9:16 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: But to bring this whole diversion (for that is what it is) back into the present, I really wish that Richard, Jim, and a few others would leave off this try-to-get-to-me-by-bringing-up-Rama shit. It's old, and it's based on your *own* cult thinking and how *your* minds work, not how mine works. > You need to get a grip, Barry - you just posted about "Rama shit" a few months ago! "I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los Angeles Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's restaurant in the wee hours of the night." - TurquoiseB Subject: TM is a Cult? Author: TurquoiseB Group: Yahoo Fairfieldife Date: Friday, 23 May 2014 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult? http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg317597.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg317597.html Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult? http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.co
Re: [FairfieldLife] Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind
I had no idea that the guru of the Turq was THAT crazy. Thanks for posting, it makes you wonder how much of that craziness the Turq is carrying with him even today... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : 100 % bullshit, MJ. Have you read the book? ...I didn't think so... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Movement does and Marshy did the exact same things -engendering fear about what will happen if you don't go to the Dome, if you go see other gurus, if you get "off the program". People who live in glass houses, Fleet From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 8:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind If you want to know how Barry thinks, and how he got so screwed up, there is a free ebook, from someone who was very close to Freddie. The name of the book is: TAKE ME FOR A RIDE Coming Of Age In A Destructive Cult, by Mark E. Laxer. Available on the link that Richard posted. Here are some quotes from the book. When I read them, they sounded strangely familiar. Note: Freddie used to call himself, "Atmananada" (Soul of Love), before he decided he was the final incarnation of Vishnu. The guy sounds VERY CRAZY: Atmananda exposed his Big Nurse nature in other ways. He claimed, for instance, that he had to "press all the right buttons" to help people overcome their resistance to the Light and to him…. He taught me to fear what would happen if I left the Centre. "You know too much to leave. It's a greedy, materialistic world out there. Your soul would be miserable. Besides, the Forces would flatten you like a bug. You would lose thousands of lifetimes of evolution." He taught me to fear, not just the Forces but people, particularly old friends and family. "It's best if you don't tell them what we do here. Believe me, they won't understand. They'll end up blocking your progress and sapping your power.“… = "Atmananda," I suddenly announced. "I *saw* the Warriors." Others in the circle soon *saw* them too. Atmananda held desert trips once or twice a month and, by mid-1983, followers *saw* him walking above the ground on a "cushion of light," flying to distant mountains, sending columns of light into the sky, and causing constellations to gyrate and disappear. On one starlit night, Atmananda raised his hands above his head. As he slowly lowered them, he made a low, whistling sound like the wind. "What did you *see*?" he asked afterward. "I didn't *see* anything," one new follower bemoaned. "Advanced psychic vision is necessary to perceive what I am doing… == "Are you Rama?" someone asked. "Yes," he replied. "I am Rama, the last incarnation of Vishnu. You people think that I am a person, but I am not. Over the years I watched my various selves fade away. I fought the process tooth and nail--like each of you are doing now. But it was in vain. I could not stop the process of dissolution. I had to admit that I was no longer a person. This morning I suddenly knew who I was. I have been cycling...I am beginning to remember...Eternity has named me Rama...Rama most clearly reflects my strand of luminosity...We're at the end of a cycle...At this time, Vishnu takes incarnation as a person...Vishnu is that aspect of God that preserves and protects life...Rama...the last incarnation of Vishnu..." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 10/17/2014 9:16 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: But to bring this whole diversion (for that is what it is) back into the present, I really wish that Richard, Jim, and a few others would leave off this try-to-get-to-me-by-bringing-up-Rama shit. It's old, and it's based on your *own* cult thinking and how *your* minds work, not how mine works. > You need to get a grip, Barry - you just posted about "Rama shit" a few months ago! "I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los Angeles Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's restaurant in the wee hours of the night." - TurquoiseB Subject: TM is a Cult? Author: TurquoiseB Group: Yahoo Fairfieldife Date: Friday, 23 May 2014 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult? http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg317597.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg317597.html Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult? http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg317597.html From: salyavin808 Advertising ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :Salya,I think ... View on www.mail-archive.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind
100 % bullshit, MJ. Have you read the book? ...I didn't think so... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Movement does and Marshy did the exact same things -engendering fear about what will happen if you don't go to the Dome, if you go see other gurus, if you get "off the program". People who live in glass houses, Fleet From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 8:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind If you want to know how Barry thinks, and how he got so screwed up, there is a free ebook, from someone who was very close to Freddie. The name of the book is: TAKE ME FOR A RIDE Coming Of Age In A Destructive Cult, by Mark E. Laxer. Available on the link that Richard posted. Here are some quotes from the book. When I read them, they sounded strangely familiar. Note: Freddie used to call himself, "Atmananada" (Soul of Love), before he decided he was the final incarnation of Vishnu. The guy sounds VERY CRAZY: Atmananda exposed his Big Nurse nature in other ways. He claimed, for instance, that he had to "press all the right buttons" to help people overcome their resistance to the Light and to him…. He taught me to fear what would happen if I left the Centre. "You know too much to leave. It's a greedy, materialistic world out there. Your soul would be miserable. Besides, the Forces would flatten you like a bug. You would lose thousands of lifetimes of evolution." He taught me to fear, not just the Forces but people, particularly old friends and family. "It's best if you don't tell them what we do here. Believe me, they won't understand. They'll end up blocking your progress and sapping your power.“… = "Atmananda," I suddenly announced. "I *saw* the Warriors." Others in the circle soon *saw* them too. Atmananda held desert trips once or twice a month and, by mid-1983, followers *saw* him walking above the ground on a "cushion of light," flying to distant mountains, sending columns of light into the sky, and causing constellations to gyrate and disappear. On one starlit night, Atmananda raised his hands above his head. As he slowly lowered them, he made a low, whistling sound like the wind. "What did you *see*?" he asked afterward. "I didn't *see* anything," one new follower bemoaned. "Advanced psychic vision is necessary to perceive what I am doing… == "Are you Rama?" someone asked. "Yes," he replied. "I am Rama, the last incarnation of Vishnu. You people think that I am a person, but I am not. Over the years I watched my various selves fade away. I fought the process tooth and nail--like each of you are doing now. But it was in vain. I could not stop the process of dissolution. I had to admit that I was no longer a person. This morning I suddenly knew who I was. I have been cycling...I am beginning to remember...Eternity has named me Rama...Rama most clearly reflects my strand of luminosity...We're at the end of a cycle...At this time, Vishnu takes incarnation as a person...Vishnu is that aspect of God that preserves and protects life...Rama...the last incarnation of Vishnu..." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 10/17/2014 9:16 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: But to bring this whole diversion (for that is what it is) back into the present, I really wish that Richard, Jim, and a few others would leave off this try-to-get-to-me-by-bringing-up-Rama shit. It's old, and it's based on your *own* cult thinking and how *your* minds work, not how mine works. > You need to get a grip, Barry - you just posted about "Rama shit" a few months ago! "I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los Angeles Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's restaurant in the wee hours of the night." - TurquoiseB Subject: TM is a Cult? Author: TurquoiseB Group: Yahoo Fairfieldife Date: Friday, 23 May 2014 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult? http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg317597.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg317597.html Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult? http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg317597.html From: salyavin808 Advertising ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :Salya,I think ... View on www.mail-archive.com Preview by Yahoo Richard, you've done it again!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind
The Movement does and Marshy did the exact same things -engendering fear about what will happen if you don't go to the Dome, if you go see other gurus, if you get "off the program". People who live in glass houses, Fleet From: "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 8:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind If you want to know how Barry thinks, and how he got so screwed up, there is a free ebook, from someone who was very close to Freddie. The name of the book is: TAKE ME FOR A RIDE Coming Of Age In A Destructive Cult, by Mark E. Laxer. Available on the link that Richard posted. Here are some quotes from the book. When I read them, they sounded strangely familiar. Note: Freddie used to call himself, "Atmananada" (Soul of Love), before he decided he was the final incarnation of Vishnu. The guy sounds VERY CRAZY: Atmanandaexposed his Big Nurse nature in other ways. He claimed, for instance, that he had to "press all the right buttons" to help people overcome their resistance to the Light and to him…. He taught me to fear what would happen if I left the Centre. "You know too much to leave. It's a greedy, materialistic world out there. Your soul would be miserable. Besides, the Forces would flatten you like a bug. You would lose thousands of lifetimes of evolution." He taught me to fear, not just the Forces but people, particularly old friends and family. "It's best if you don't tell them what we do here. Believe me, they won't understand. They'll end up blocking your progress and sapping your power.“… = "Atmananda," I suddenly announced. "I *saw* the Warriors." Others in the circle soon *saw* them too. Atmanandaheld desert trips once or twice a month and, by mid-1983, followers *saw* him walking above the ground on a "cushion of light," flying to distant mountains, sending columns of light into the sky, and causing constellations to gyrate and disappear. On one starlit night, Atmanandaraised his hands above his head. As he slowly lowered them, he made a low, whistling sound like the wind. "What did you *see*?" he asked afterward. "I didn't *see* anything," one new follower bemoaned. "Advanced psychic vision is necessary to perceive what I am doing… == "Are you Rama?" someone asked. "Yes," he replied. "I am Rama, the last incarnation of Vishnu. You people think that I am a person, but I am not. Over the years I watched my various selves fade away. I fought the process tooth and nail--like each of you are doing now. But it was in vain. I could not stop the process of dissolution. I had to admit that I was no longer a person. This morning I suddenly knew who I was. I have been cycling...I am beginning to remember...Eternity has named me Rama...Rama most clearly reflects my strand of luminosity...We're at the end of a cycle...At this time, Vishnu takes incarnation as a person...Vishnu is that aspect of God that preserves and protects life...Rama...the last incarnation of Vishnu..." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 10/17/2014 9:16 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: But to bring this whole diversion (for that is what it is) back into the present, I really wish that Richard, Jim, and a few others would leave off this try-to-get-to-me-by-bringing-up-Rama shit. It's old, and it's based on your *own* cult thinking and how *your* minds work, not how mine works. > >You need to get a grip, Barry - you just posted about "Rama shit" a few months ago! > >"I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los Angeles >Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's restaurant in the wee >hours of the night." - TurquoiseB > >Subject: TM is a Cult? >Author: TurquoiseB >Group: Yahoo Fairfieldife >Date: Friday, 23 May 2014 >Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult? > > Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult? >From: salyavin808 Advertising ---In >FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :Salya,I think ... >View on www.mail-archive.comPreview by Yahoo > Richard, you've done it again!
