F10 theme proposal - Fedora Borealis reloaded
Back when the F7 default theme was under planning, a vote placed the Borealis theme proposal second to the winning Planet theme and in front of the Flying High theme which would become the F7 theme later on. I am greatly in favour of picking up this great theme again. A cute mockup can be found at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_FC7Themes_Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis_fc7themeproposal-fedoraborealis-gtkmetacity-mock1.png Moreover, the designer ist still around which is an advantage, too .. ;o)~j ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Nodoka 0.7 beta 1 released
On Jan 5, 2008 6:31 PM, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=nodoka;a=summary [3] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/wiki/Screenshots This URL is badly chosen, as for FF3 and equivalent, it leads to a secure connection failure because of an invalid certificate. For the current epiphany development version, this failure renders the page effectively inaccessible. It might thus be better to avoid using fedorahosted.org completely and use hosted.fedoraproject.org instead for which the certificate has been issued. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Tangoification and Echo
You're blind if you don't see Echo uglyness... ... ______ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek/ _|___ __| |___ _ _ __ _ ( _ ) Fedora Project | _/ -_) _` / _ \ '_/ _` | / _ \ http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ |_| \___\__,_\___/_| \__,_| \___/ Hadn't the list moderator announced anti-SPAM measures in order to limit the noise level on this list to a tolerable level? I feel more and more like unsubscribing from it .. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
I wonder if nobody actually noticed how different the style of rhgb splash screen and login panel are. One wouldn't think that they are supposed to be part of the same artwork. Actually, the login panel falls way behind the rhgb splash screen in terms of clarity and polish. It looks quite overloaded to me, essentially like in F7 for which I had posted a similar comment. The outer frame of the login panel gives it a baroque look. A panel without border but drop shadows instead simply patterned after the rhgb splash screen would not only make the artwork more homogeneous but also improve its visual quality considerably. Maybe it's not to late yet to improve a bit on this .. -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Bluecurve style: announcing QSimpleStyle
At least keep symlinks up to date as in the case of Places CD/DVD Creator which used to show the correct Bluecurve icon up to FC5 but now uses a Tango one even when the Bluecurve icon theme has been chosen. What RHEL ships is completely irrelevant to fedora-art list. So if you want to file bugs in Bluecurve icons for RHEL, you should use Red Hat support channels or bugzilla for RHEL as appropriate. For FC5 it is pretty much in a freeze where security bugs are fixed and such cosmetic issues wont get much attention so late in the release lifecycle. Rahul Huh? I actually wrote that the CD/DVD Creator icon in FC5 is the right one - the opposite of what you assert! Things broke later, namely in FC6 for which I posted a bug report [#230002] 4 weeks ago. -- Feel free - 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX ProMail testen: www.gmx.net/de/go/mailfooter/promail-out ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Bluecurve style: announcing QSimpleStyle
Bluecurve was done almost entirely by a single person - Garrett LeSage, who does not work for Red Hat anymore. Fedora itself has moved to using Clearlooks for GNOME and possibly Plastik for KDE in Fedora 7 which is the default upstream themes. The Bluecurve icon set has also been replace by Echo in the current development tree. However, the Bluecurve icon theme was and still is the default icon theme for all RHEL versions including 5 [supported until *2014*], and therefore certainly deserves some maintenance either by the Fedora community or Red Hat itself. At least keep symlinks up to date as in the case of Places CD/DVD Creator which used to show the correct Bluecurve icon up to FC5 but now uses a Tango one even when the Bluecurve icon theme has been chosen. -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Login manager and rhgb panel
The current versions of the rhgb progress bar panel and of the gdm login panel show additional blue frames along the border. This looks quite baroque and makes the whole thing look cluttered. Any reason for this useless decoration? The rather dark background of the panels already provides a clear contrast with respect to the lighter background. More is not necessarily better, right? I also wonder if the current trend to photorealistic artwork, i.e. the cloud in the rhgb screen, is really the way to go - quite massive ... The latest RHEL5 artwork appears to be rather unobtrusive [even less than FC6 apart from the red colour scheme] and is in sharp contrast with the XP style towards which Fedora artwork seems to evolve. -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Artwork conversations
The quality criteria is so subjective that is just too easy to use is as a strawman. Ah, and what the hell then entitles you to claim that FC6 has had the best artwork of all Fedora releases? In my opinion, FC6 artwork already showed first signs of sloppyness. Only think of the installer blender image which used the glass ball when the installed distribution used a reflective one. I have the impression that the 3-4 persons contributing the majority of postings to this list think of themselves as being representative of the user community which is obviously wrong. There has been no representative vote on the final theme. A first tentative one showed Borealis and Flying high on par. Then there was a second one whose only subject was the Flying high theme, leaving no other choice to the voters, although there have been some clear caveats on this list regarding Flying High. Under these circumstances, I do prefer a single qualified individual [DF] who steers the whole process in a proven manner than a small group hijacking artwork development. Everybody is welcome to submit suggestions, and John has come up with some nice ideas. However, the number of postings or submissions of the interested persons can by no means establish any kind of prerogative with respect to the final result. -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A sad day for Fedora, A disappointment for Open Source
This is truly a sad day for Fedora and a disappointment for the community of Open Source. If Fedora did not want our help simply state it, close down the list server, call it good. Diana certainly has the skill and talent to do the artwork and obviously doesn't need our help. Letting this sham go on for months while folks invest their time and honest effort is completely contrary to the spirit of open source. To add insult to injury all of the time we are working on artwork Fedora launches echo in RC1 although the decision on artwork is pending and many would agree the echo project is incomplete and not tested. It sounds to me there are personal agendas playing out and those agendas have nothing to do with open source and the community of fedora. At this point the only thing left to do is make up excuses and assign blame. Pity, John From the user's point of view, this is good news. It's a simple fact that computer geeks are rarely competent when it comes to graphics design and artwork. The horrible look of community distros like Debian is the living proof for this observation whereas OpenSUSE or Fedora are an order of magnitude ahead [ok, your designs are not that bad but still fairly amateurish]. Some polish by a graphics professional was really needed, and I am glad to hear that Diana whose work has always been extremely well done is going to give a final touch to the artwork for F7. Since it will be apparently based on your Flying high theme you should be rather pleased about this development, shouldn't you? An overhaul of your submissions should not be considered personally offending. Personally, I would have gone for Borealis but somehow a decision had to be made .. And regarding the Echo icon theme, I do not see any interference with the the remaining artwork. They are rather independent from each other. -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A sad day for Fedora, A disappointment for Open Source
Fedora is claimed also to be a community project. If it is not, then we should just declare this mailing list and the Art project closed and stop using them.And just sit back and each 6 months when a new version is released act as fanboys and worship the great powers that brought us the graphics (you know, just like in the Windows or Mac world). Nevertheless, user interface and artwork have a crucial impact on perception and acceptance of the final product by the user community and interested parties. It is too important to leave it solely to a bunch of self proclaimed artists. And from the submissions that I have seen [mind you, I am perfectly entitled to express my personal point of view even -without- being an art contributor myself] I am rather sceptical wether the Fedora developer community itself can provide the expertise which is necessary to design an ergonomic and visually appealing user interface. I suppose many users care much less about exactly which kernel version they are running than if the user interface is nice and functional. Fedora is in the favourable situation of being backed by Red Hat which allows to help finalize the artwork by a graphics professional. And this is certainly not the least aspect which has made Fedora the success it actually is. I think John is upset because he was left to work and work on his own design and nobody told him this is useless, even if people had known for weeks how things are going. Btw, we should he be upset when it was not even warranted that his submission would be retained at all? The number of postings to this list can hardly be considered a valid criterion which proposal to pick! -- Feel free - 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX ProMail testen: www.gmx.net/de/go/mailfooter/promail-out ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 7 Art Plan (was Art Team FC7 Progress So Far - Community Feedback)
The FlyingHigh theme [2] proposed by John Baer has the greatest potential and interest. Time is short and there is still more exploration I would like to see within the theme so I'm declaring this the official theme for Fedora 7. Under what authority? ~m I'm a mere user only but I want to express my clear support for the Borealis theme proposal. From the couple of mock-ups available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis I perceive a friendly and in the same time pofessional and polished look. The overall brightness is just right, and in particular, it has the right balance between bling and unobtrusiveness. People frequently seem to forget that the desktop is only the ground upon which your own work thrives. In this respect, many and even most proposals are far too pushy or even somehow infantile. Maybe there should be a poll or similar. Right know, I can only wonder what would make FlyingHigh the preferred candiate apart from the shere number of successive [more or less successful] drafts. It's quite ok for a layman's work but it looks fairly amateurish compared to FedoraBorealis. [And please do not respond by bullying me to contribute make FlyingHigh an even better theme. Even a mere user has the right to make a statement only which is a legitimate way of contributing, too.] -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 7 Art Plan (was Art Team FC7 Progress So Far - Community Feedback)
Original-Message Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:30:22 +0200 From: Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, Maybe there should be a poll or similar. There is a kind of poll: the voters are the contributors to the project and the voting method is contributing in some way to a proposal or another. This is not intelligible, as in my eyes, the Borealis theme was ready for release from the first draft on. So if there are no contributors since there is nothing to contribute left, one can hardly interpret this lack as a vote against the proposal! -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Official Fedora Core 6 media labels
Most definitely! M. Duffy´s proposal is way off with respect to the DNA theme look feel. I would have had no doubt voting for Diana´s proposal if I had been aware of the vote mentioned earlier .. I think the Diana Fong's one looks like more to the DNA theme and should be used. The duffy's one is good but it's more different then the Diana's one. Charles ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Stop infantilization, .. no 'mascot' for Fedora! The 'infinity' logo is amply sufficient. Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: Hi, I'm interested in, has FEDORA a mascot? If it hasn't any let's talk about. May be I have an idea... I think there was a little talk about having a mascot, but without a final resolution, so is not decided if we will have a mascot or not. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
I do, although my twin sister herself designed SUSE's Gekko chameleon. Do you think the SUSE's Gekko chameleon, the Ximian's Rupert monkey, the Linux's Tux penguin or the GNU's gnu are infantile? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Icon orientation
Comparing the Echo icon set to the standard Bluecurve one, it pops to my eyes that the perspective has changed from left to right. This is disturbing in the sense that the panel menus and the majority of the panel icons are located in the left half of the screen. The current orientation makes them look away from the user who is located on the axis through the center of the screen. Is there a reason why this change of perspective has been adopted? I for myself would clearly appreciate that the icons were looking towards the screen center which is achieved by fliping them about the vertical axis. This operation would allow to make Echo consistent with Bluecurve in this respect. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
