Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-29 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Mairin Duffy wrote: William Jon McCann wrote: I think a lot of the responsibility is on the desktop team (and also the upstream community) to communicate more effectively. What do you mean by upstream? You mean the Fedora Artwork team is the upstream for the Fedora-branded artwork, right? I

Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?

2008-10-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Here's some of that feedback. There are other screenshots at the bottom of the page I wanted to do the full critique on, but after spending some hours doing the critique that is complete there, I felt that what is there sufficiently and objectively

Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?

2008-10-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Regarding icons using different perspective, it is much worse for any theme especially when new applications do not have icons that follow either guideline (Blender, KOffice, xsane, about-me, gFTP, etc.) . The Blender icon in the package from blender.org is tango

Re: Echo vs the destkop

2008-09-27 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 17:22 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: In my opinion it's applications fault. The day icon themes were born to the world, people should have accepted the fact and make it possible to change every icon on desktop by looking them up in icon themes.

Re: Echo vs the destkop

2008-09-25 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: William Jon McCann a écrit : Hi Bill, On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When we approved Echo as the default icon theme for F10, I was under the assumption that this was already more or less known as a feature to the Desktop

Re: [Echo] New Actions dialog-* + process-stop icons

2008-09-16 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, I've just finished creating new icons for: dialog-no (stock gtk-no) dialog-cancel (also gtk-cancel) dialog-close dialog-yes (stpck gtk-yes) dialog-ok (also gtk-ok) dialog-apply (stock gtk-apply) process-stop Following the current echo style, I created a template for

Re: Good news about Echo

2008-09-08 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 11:09 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: Heh, didn't occurred to me that I could check gtk docs :-D Thanks for the link, seems like many of the stock icons are already in the icon-naming-spec (though under different names). I think icon-naming-utils

Re: Echo for F10? [was: Re: [Echo] One Canvas workflow + making commits easier]

2008-08-28 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 15:46 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: What about the percentage of coverage you're going to see on a fresh Fedora install, in all apps etc? That would not be so easy to count... Even for gnome menus its a lot of work... Is the number

Re: accessible login

2008-08-27 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Matthias Clasen wrote: Hey artists, the new gdm has a nice and easy way to turn on HighContrast / LargePrint themes. You can see screenshots of it here: http://people.redhat.com/mclasen/hicontrast1.png http://people.redhat.com/mclasen/hicontrast2.png Unfortunately, as the screenshots show, a

Re: Echo for F10? [was: Re: [Echo] One Canvas workflow + making commits easier]

2008-08-27 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 15:11 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Some information on the current % would be good. Rahul Indeed, but it's not so easy as it might seem. We could count the coverage of the icon-naming-specs, we could count the coverage of gnome menus in

Re: [Mist/gnome-icon-theme] Missing symlinks in rawhide

2008-07-30 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, I recall andreasn called for cooperation in hunting bad citizens in case of icons usage. As I am on rawhide right now, where the icon-theme-utils are not used for generating symlinks in Mist and gnome-icon-theme, I though I could point out some icons that are missing

HighRes Mist icons

2008-07-05 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Hi all! As there are requirements for large size icons in apps like GNOME Do [1] and Elisa [2], I recently started working on Mist icons with a bigger, 256x256 canvas. With some assistance from Kalle Persson and Hylke Bons, I now I have something that is usable and will try to merge these into

Re: IAX Phone Icon Request

2008-06-16 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Stojan Dimitrovski wrote: Hi again, I was advised to put Metadata in the SVGs including license and creator. That's what I did. License: Public Domain. Here's the new ZIP. I strongly advise using this one. ~act1v8 Did some modifications on the 16x16 version of the icon. Aligned the lines

Re: IAX Phone Icon Request

2008-06-13 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Stojan Dimitrovski wrote: Hello everyone, I'd like to claim the IAX Phone applications icon request from the DesignService. I already finished a 48x48 Tango-standards (some exceptions as to the buttons and darker gradients) icon of the phone (smaller versions are to follow after the

Re: Mist and gnome-icon-theme plans for GNOME 2.24/Fedora 10

2008-05-22 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 21:43 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: Fewer and fewer icons in applications are actually hardcoded, as they need to work with HighContrast, even though there are still some who needs to be fixed. See Known Applications on http://live.gnome.org

Re: Mist and gnome-icon-theme plans for GNOME 2.24/Fedora 10

2008-05-19 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 14:31 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: What are the outstanding issues with Mist/gnome-icon-theme that makes it a target for replacement? The application coverage is pretty good (full coverage in key applications such as Firefox, Rhythmbox, Pidgin

Re: Mist and gnome-icon-theme plans for GNOME 2.24/Fedora 10

2008-05-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 15:23 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Andreas Nilsson wrote: • King Size - Even though 48x48 px canvas currently works well on the desktop for most people, there is a tendency to move towards higher resolution screens. There are also emerging

Re: Mist and gnome-icon-theme plans for GNOME 2.24/Fedora 10

2008-05-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Nicu Buculei wrote: Andreas Nilsson wrote: • King Size - Even though 48x48 px canvas currently works well on the desktop for most people, there is a tendency to move towards higher resolution screens. There are also emerging projects such as GnomeDO and Elisa that require larger sized icons

Mist and gnome-icon-theme plans for GNOME 2.24/Fedora 10

2008-05-14 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Hi all! I thought I should share some of the plans for Mist and gnome-icon-theme (witch makes up for a big porportion of the icons used on Fedora). • King Size - Even though 48x48 px canvas currently works well on the desktop for most people, there is a tendency to move towards higher

Re: [Echo] Reworked media-optical icon

2008-05-07 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 07:58 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: Hi Martyn! Hi Andreas! Is there a sane user case for when you need to use these labels? The only one I can think of is I have both a Blueray and a HDDVD player on my machine. I inserted both yesterday

Re: [Echo] Reworked media-optical icon

2008-05-07 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 10:40 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: Makes sense. It's not in upstream gnome-icon-theme, but is a fedora-specific patch, currently being discussed in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506532 Sorry for mixing up the name, I work

Re: [RFE]...

2008-04-01 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Nicu Buculei wrote: Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: RFE for cool user/avatar image to use as default for other/guest accounts in GDM on live spins and with installation We had an effort like this about a year ago and collected a number of images: http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=65 I think it

Re: new icons?

2008-03-14 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Valent Turkovic wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png Hi, I'm

Re: new icons?

2008-03-14 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Andreas Nilsson wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0

Re: new icons?

2008-03-13 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Valent Turkovic wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png Hi, I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look really out of place. If I remember

Re: howto print posters?

2008-03-11 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, I would like to print these posters: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral But I the print shop doesn't support svg file format. I tried printing to PDF from Inkscape but get terrible results :( I would like to sent them the print file in vector

Re: Echo future

2008-02-06 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 23:06 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: Easier would be making tango-compiliant theme to play well with GNOME apps. That would be pointless. We are offering an alternative that is stylistically (coincidentally) in

Re: Firefox Trunk tangoified

2008-01-28 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Mark wrote: 2008/1/27, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I want to tell you the good news. Firefox in Trunk is now better tangoified :) ! Still some icons are missing, but Firefox is nearer its release :) . I think that you should see what progress is being made and try to make

first part of the icon review (with bugzilla links)

2008-01-02 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Hi Máirín! Hope you had a nice Christmas. Here is the first batch of the list I promised on irc. Added fedora-art list to cc. - Andreas * gthumb icon looks blurry. the artwork itself would probably look fine if it wasn't so blurred. - fixed in trunk

Re: An Idea about branding the Firefox and Thunderbird apps for F9

2007-12-31 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Rogue wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I was just toying around with the Splash![1] addon for mozilla apps and I believe we can leverage the same for branding the applications, via a custom Fedora centric splash screen. What do you folks think about it? - -Rogue

Re: Tangoification and Echo

2007-12-21 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Nicu Buculei wrote: Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: You're blind if you don't see Echo uglyness... (seems I'm not receiving a whole bunch of e-mail from the mailing list, so I'm responding to this one instead of it's parent) Hi Jakub! I glad to hear that you enjoy the work we have put into

Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme

2007-12-12 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Laith Juwaidah wrote: Hi, I just found this digg[1] today. I NEVER liked Ubuntu's theme (the orangy one), but now with that brown color, that smooth bar, those round edges around the bubble, and the semi-transparant menu, it looks pretty amazing! We really should beat

distrowatch review

2007-11-12 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Hi all! Stumbled upon a review of Fedora7 on distrowatch. With every new Fedora release, the team puts together a new look and feel. I like the new look; however, I still wonder why Fedora has to use the classic icon theme for many applications (e.g. Evolution, OpenOffice.org) they have been

Re: [Echo ]Recreating the Status Pages once again

2007-10-01 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 18:59 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: the rest of the pages. Will let you know when I am finished with recreating the things that are in specs. Martin I have finished the pages for icons that are in the icon naming specs. Only the Actions [1]

Re: [Echo] from which icon set derive missing icons?

2007-09-29 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 10:58 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, the current state of things in Echo is that we derive first from Clearlooks and then from Gnome. I'd suggest to drop the Clearlooks as the Gnome icon theme has already 22x22 icon

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Icon Review

2007-09-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Rogue wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Sourada wrote: Also, during the review I have done for Echo icons, I have found that some applications do not install their icons into the hicolor icon theme while they are recommended to do so [2]. 22x22 is just

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Icon Review

2007-09-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Quick update. Andreas Nilsson wrote: Andreas Nilsson wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/IconReview_Fedora_8_Icon_Review new login: Hylke Bons drew a better icon for this [1], can't recall the bug number though. Bug filed: http://bugzilla.gnome.org

Re: Missing pieces

2007-09-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Máirín Duffy wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: - Do we want to make some fixes for the menu icon review issues ? Andreas and Steven have given a lot of great info towards fixing some of the identified issues, but I haven't had time to sit down yet and go through all of their feedback. I'm not

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Desktop Live Echo Icon Review

2007-09-16 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: There are many problems with Echo - icons are still lookin incosistent and so... Fancy. In my opinion it is better to use Mist iconset even in F9, F10 etc. Echo on this stage aren't ready. Also, Echo will be messing around with style. GNOME uses beautiful,

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Icon Review

2007-09-15 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi folks, I installed Fedora 8 Test 2 last night, and after updating it I took some time tonight to take screenshots of the application menus to show what the icons look like in a default installation of Fedora (well except I installed Inkscape, sorry, I couldn't live

Re: xdg user dirs icons (was [ubuntu-art] xdg-user-dirts icon set for Ubuntu Human theme])

2007-08-20 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Hi Máirín! It seems to work well in the Finder [1] sidebar as it gives the different places unique shapes. My initial reaction to the ubuntu-folders-thing are that the shapes are very weak, so it seems to be more decoration than being actually useful. This would probably be worth discussing

Re: Echo Icons Guidelines Discussion: Icon Sizes

2007-08-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: hi, another thing do discuss in Echo Icons Guidelines [1] are the sizes of icons [2] that will be in the package. So I propose three basic sizes and one optional size, following the tango example [3]: The optional, 32x32, size is used in Windows (which is probably not our

Re: Do we need another Echo?

2007-08-17 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: What's wrong with isometric icons? That's one of the things I really miss in tango. I think we should continue with the Echo effort, but it would be perhaps good to base them more on tango - i.e. use our styling and perspective, but mostly tango or gnome shapes. The echo

Re: [Echo Icons] Current adding/fixing/packaging process?

2007-08-05 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Martin Sourada wrote: 5. In what state it is acceptable for default icon set in release (i.e. what currently missing icons MUST be done)? Hi Martin! How is the coverage of echo-icon-theme compared to the current set (mist + gnome-icon-theme)? Current icon-naming-spec coverage of g-i-t

Re: shutdown compared ubuntu vs fedora

2007-05-19 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi. I started a thread on fedora-desktop mailing list and they suggested you also get involved you I joined this list also. Here are some of the key points from thread going on fedora-desktop mailing list. Please look at the video:

Re: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Matthias Clasen wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 15:00 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: I wonder why Tango is not an option? Or is that upstream, choice c? I didn't exclude anything, just point out the opinions that I have heard so far. I'll also point out that gnome, Mist and Tango all have

Re: GDM themes/face browser

2007-01-12 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hey Andreas! Nicu Buculei wrote: - think if we need additional faces (there are some in /usr/share/pixmaps/faces/ not sure if those are enough/original/pretty) Andreas Nilsson wrote: Garrett Lesage and myself did some initial work on this some time ago. http