Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 17.08.2009, 10:32 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 08/17/2009 04:50 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Montag, den 17.08.2009, 00:02 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 08/16/2009 11:07 PM, LinuxDonald wrote: Only the devel packages conflicts. Just in case, it is not clear. You

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/17/2009 02:23 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: See my first mail on this thread. I did , but it doesn't explain why maintainers shouldn't be able to fix it. How would they be able to fix it exactly? openal-soft earlier obsoleted openal in the stable branches. openal-soft maintainer also

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 17.08.2009, 14:57 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 08/17/2009 02:23 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: See my first mail on this thread. I did , but it doesn't explain why maintainers shouldn't be able to fix it. How would they be able to fix it exactly? openal-soft earlier

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/17/2009 03:22 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Then you should also know that a buildroot overwrite for the other branches has been requested as well, so a simple rebuild should fix everything for those maintainers, who want to switch to openal-soft. The rebuild is *unnecessary*. The

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 17.08.2009, 15:24 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 08/17/2009 03:22 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Then you should also know that a buildroot overwrite for the other branches has been requested as well, so a simple rebuild should fix everything for those maintainers, who

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:24:38 +0530, Rahul wrote: On 08/17/2009 03:22 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Then you should also know that a buildroot overwrite for the other branches has been requested as well, so a simple rebuild should fix everything for those maintainers, who want to switch

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/17/2009 03:54 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Montag, den 17.08.2009, 15:24 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 08/17/2009 03:22 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Then you should also know that a buildroot overwrite for the other branches has been requested as well, so a simple rebuild should

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/17/2009 03:57 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:24:38 +0530, Rahul wrote: On 08/17/2009 03:22 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Then you should also know that a buildroot overwrite for the other branches has been requested as well, so a simple rebuild should fix

rawhide report: 20090817 changes

2009-08-17 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Aug 17 06:15:05 UTC 2009 Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 0 Modified Packages: 0 Broken deps for i386 -- 389-ds-1.1.3-4.fc12.noarch requires 389-ds-admin R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.i586

Fedora and Atheros L2

2009-08-17 Thread Jos Vos
Hi, Can anyone tell me if the Atheros L2 (wired) Ethernet controller is standard supported in F11 (and if yes, of there are any known issues with it)? Thanks, -- --Jos Vos j...@xos.nl --X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 --Amsterdam, The Netherlands|

Re: Fedora and Atheros L2

2009-08-17 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 08/17/2009 03:55 PM, Jos Vos wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me if the Atheros L2 (wired) Ethernet controller is standard supported in F11 (and if yes, of there are any known issues with it)? Thanks, -- --Jos Vosj...@xos.nl --X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364

Re: IPv6 for fedora services?

2009-08-17 Thread Jeff Garzik
On 08/16/2009 01:37 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: While this is the completely wrong list to ask something like this on. fedora- infrastructre list is the correct place. there is currently no plans to roll My apologies. I have just subscribed to this list, and will re-send my query there. It

Re: Empathy default in F12?

2009-08-17 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 18:02 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: snip But since other people may not care about that (i.e. Empathy developers mock people who want confidentiality, i.e. http://resiak.livejournal.com/60614.html ), I thought I'd see if I had any other concerns. Given that this was an

Re: rawhide report: 20090817 changes

2009-08-17 Thread Denis Leroy
On 08/17/2009 01:11 PM, Rawhide Report wrote: Broken deps for i386 -- clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 17.08.2009, 16:29 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 08/17/2009 03:54 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Montag, den 17.08.2009, 15:24 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 08/17/2009 03:22 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Then you should also know that a buildroot overwrite for the

Re: Empathy default in F12?

2009-08-17 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Bastien Nocerabnoc...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 18:02 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: snip But since other people may not care about that (i.e. Empathy developers mock people who want confidentiality, i.e. http://resiak.livejournal.com/60614.html

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/17/2009 08:32 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Thomas is a first timer, who joined Fedora recently. Please don't judge him by your standards and please don't expect him to follow procedures that are not even outlined in the wiki. I am judging anyone but if don't break other packages needs

Re: fonts turning white?

2009-08-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 18:19 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: I have seen menus (firefox and evolution) and/or fonts turn white or missing on various occasions, no matter what I was doing. I've seen mention of gtk2 for various reasons, although this may or may not be a part of the problem. And

Re: Empathy default in F12?

2009-08-17 Thread Eric Springer
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Gregory Maxwellgmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: The official FAQ[1] states that they only intend to support protocol-native encryption. This position neglects the large base of users that have no interest in switching IM networks and who are completely satisfied by

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/16/2009 11:52 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:30:31 +0900, Mamoru wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote, at 08/16/2009 11:47 PM +9:00: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:39:37 +0900, Mamoru wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote, at 08/16/2009 09:29 PM +9:00: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:04:14

Re: Another linux kernel NULL pointer vulnerability ( exploit here )

2009-08-17 Thread Jon Masters
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 21:23 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Freitag, den 14.08.2009, 14:39 -0300 schrieb Itamar Reis Peixoto: Hello guy's for the people who don't have updated the kernel. I'm running kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64 and this one is not supposed to be fixed,

Fedora Release Engineering meeting summary for 2009-08-17

2009-08-17 Thread Jesse Keating
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-17/fedora-meeting.2009-08-17-18.01.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-17/fedora-meeting.2009-08-17-18.01.txt Log:

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/17/2009 11:49 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: This would make sense to me. Do consumers of openal not make use of the pkgconfig files? If not, do they use configure scripts that make it easy to do this? In the case of my package which uses openal (alienarean), it dlopens the openal

Re: fonts turning white?

2009-08-17 Thread Mike McLean
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 18:19 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: I have seen menus (firefox and evolution) and/or fonts turn white or missing on various occasions, no matter what I was doing.  I've seen mention of gtk2 for

Re: fonts turning white?

2009-08-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 16:52 -0400, Mike McLean wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 18:19 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: I have seen menus (firefox and evolution) and/or fonts turn white or missing on various occasions, no

Re: xulrunner-1.9.1.1-1.fc11.x86_64 update pulls in i586 packages

2009-08-17 Thread Braden McDaniel
On 7/23/09 12:13 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:55:57 -0400, Braden wrote: Is the problem that the gecko-libs dependency is not arch-specific? How do we fix that? You could make it arch-specific by depending on gecko-libs%{?_isa} = ... This doesn't Just Work; it seems

Re: Empathy default in F12?

2009-08-17 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 01:40 +1000, Eric Springer wrote: I understand the urge to ship empathy because it's included in gnome -- but let's be honest: if the two clients were judged side-by-side and rated, there's not a chance in hell empathy would win. : ) +1 on that, empathy sux and I

Re: Empathy default in F12?

2009-08-17 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I understand the urge to ship empathy because it's included in gnome -- but let's be honest: if the two clients were judged side-by-side and rated, there's not a chance in hell empathy would win. : )

Visiting webpage causes ~hard lock - round 2!

2009-08-17 Thread Dr. Diesel
This happened a little while ago: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498131 Seems to be happening again (tried 3x, same result) on a different website and most likely something different but could someone please confirm before I BZ this? Please save your work and visit (tech website):

Re: Visiting webpage causes ~hard lock - round 2!

2009-08-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Dr. Diesel writes: Please save your work and visit (tech website): URL:http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1391450amp;page=13http://hardf orum.com/showthread.php?t=1391450page=13 Screen freezes, mouse has jerky movement, vt switch fails. Loads fine for me. F11.i368 all updates as of

Re: Visiting webpage causes ~hard lock - round 2!

2009-08-17 Thread Dariusz J. Garbowski
On 08/17/2009 07:24 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Dr. Diesel writes: Please save your work and visit (tech website): URL:http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1391450amp;page=13http://hardf orum.com/showthread.php?t=1391450page=13 Screen freezes, mouse has jerky movement, vt switch fails.

Re: Visiting webpage causes ~hard lock - round 2!

2009-08-17 Thread Prasad H. L.
2009/8/18 Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com: Dr. Diesel writes: Please save your work and visit (tech website): URL:http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1391450amp;page=13http://hardf orum.com/showthread.php?t=1391450page=13 Screen freezes, mouse has jerky movement, vt switch fails.

Re: yum-presto plugin by default

2009-08-17 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:35:37AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/26/2009 06:40 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, Can we make it a default in comps for Rawhide? Rahul No answer here after weeks. After some lengthy discussion with rel-eng team in irc, not much care either way.

Re: Visiting webpage causes ~hard lock - round 2!

2009-08-17 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Monday 17 August 2009 21:09:05 Dr. Diesel wrote: This happened a little while ago: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498131 Seems to be happening again (tried 3x, same result) on a different website and most likely something different but could someone please confirm before

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 00:30 +0900, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: On F-10/11 the whole rebuild is not preferable, however it seems that actually openal-soft is also needed on F-10/11 to fix some bugs (bug 515109). So on F-10/11, it was decided to make openal and openal-soft installable in parallel (not

Re: Fedora and Atheros L2

2009-08-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 16:12 +0300, Aioanei Rares wrote: On 08/17/2009 03:55 PM, Jos Vos wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me if the Atheros L2 (wired) Ethernet controller is standard supported in F11 (and if yes, of there are any known issues with it)? AFAIK, the F11 kernels support

Re: xulrunner-1.9.1.1-1.fc11.x86_64 update pulls in i586 packages

2009-08-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:17:55 -0400, Braden wrote: On 7/23/09 12:13 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:55:57 -0400, Braden wrote: Is the problem that the gecko-libs dependency is not arch-specific? How do we fix that? You could make it arch-specific by depending on

Re: our perl-core on p5p

2009-08-17 Thread Marcela Maslanova
- Tom \spot\ Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: Okay, so with all of that said, let me discuss what would happen if we were to switch the naming of perl and perl-core tomorrow: * Any packages which still have Requires: perl , rather than a more specific Requires: perl(foo::bar) would

Re: Proposed F12 perl cleanups

2009-08-17 Thread Marcela Maslanova
* Rename perl to perl-minimal +1 They should either have: 1. If they're version dependent, they should have Requires: perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo $version)) +1 Marcela -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl

Re: Proposed F12 perl cleanups

2009-08-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/15/2009 09:00 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: Out of the thread on p5p, I'd like to propose the following changes for F-12: * Rename perl-core to perl * Rename perl to perl-minimal The biggest change here is that there are still packages which Require: perl, usually to specify a specific

Broken dependencies: perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader

2009-08-17 Thread buildsys
perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader has broken dependencies in the development tree: On ppc: perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader-0.04006-4.fc12.noarch requires perl(DBIX::Class) On x86_64: perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader-0.04006-4.fc12.noarch requires perl(DBIX::Class) On i386:

Re: our perl-core on p5p

2009-08-17 Thread Stepan Kasal
Hello, On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:53:37AM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: [...] what if someone runs yum install perl? I believe this is the crucial question. To satisfy the request raised on p5p, it would have to install all the core modules. But that would induce many accusation of bloat.

Re: our perl-core on p5p

2009-08-17 Thread Paul Howarth
On 17/08/09 14:21, Stepan Kasal wrote: Hello, On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:53:37AM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: [...] what if someone runs yum install perl? I believe this is the crucial question. To satisfy the request raised on p5p, it would have to install all the core modules. But

Re: our perl-core on p5p

2009-08-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/17/2009 09:21 AM, Stepan Kasal wrote: I see no change that would significantly improve our overall image and thus I would stay with the current state, which at least minimizes the surprises. I'm not sure that it does. Right now, perl-core installs everything that comes with the perl

Re: our perl-core on p5p

2009-08-17 Thread Stepan Kasal
Hello, On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:06:48PM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: Right now, perl-core installs everything that comes with the perl 5.10.0 tarball, not just the minimal core. The current naming is confusing. perl-core installs perl+core, i.e. the perl interpreter plus all the core

Re: our perl-core on p5p

2009-08-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/17/2009 12:42 PM, Stepan Kasal wrote: perl-core installs perl+core, i.e. the perl interpreter plus all the core modules. So I see _some_ logic behind that. Well, I like to think that I tried to put some logic behind it originally, but I think this is a better logic. :) I still think

Re: our perl-core on p5p

2009-08-17 Thread Paul Howarth
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:42:07 +0200 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com wrote: Hello, On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:06:48PM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: Right now, perl-core installs everything that comes with the perl 5.10.0 tarball, not just the minimal core. The current naming is

[Bug 504256] Please build latest perl-Math-BigInt-GMP for EPEL 4 and 5

2009-08-17 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504256 --- Comment #5 from Robert Scheck redhat-bugzi...@linuxnetz.de 2009-08-17 16:42:20 EDT --- Steven, ping again? Are you

[Bug 513580] Please build latest perl-DateTime-Format-Excel for EPEL 4 and 5

2009-08-17 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513580 --- Comment #1 from Robert Scheck redhat-bugzi...@linuxnetz.de 2009-08-17 16:42:59 EDT --- Chris, ping? Are you alive? --

[Bug 513580] Please build latest perl-DateTime-Format-Excel for EPEL 4 and 5

2009-08-17 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513580 --- Comment #2 from Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 2009-08-18 00:58:39 EDT --- Barely :) You're more than welcome to

rpms/perl-Parse-ExuberantCTags/devel perl-Parse-ExuberantCTags.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-08-17 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
Author: mmaslano Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Parse-ExuberantCTags/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv345 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Added Files: perl-Parse-ExuberantCTags.spec Log Message: * Fri Aug 14 2009 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com

rpms/perl-Locale-Msgfmt/devel perl-Locale-Msgfmt.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-08-17 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
Author: mmaslano Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Locale-Msgfmt/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv1025 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Added Files: perl-Locale-Msgfmt.spec Log Message: * Fri Aug 14 2009 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com 0.14-1 -