Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-11-18 Thread King InuYasha
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote: Gregory Maxwell wrote: I noticed that http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora appears to be strongly promoting i386 Fedora over x86_64. Is this intentional or an oversight? This is, sadly, intentional. I and others

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-11-18 Thread King InuYasha
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Ikem Krueger ikem.krue...@googlemail.comwrote: IMHO, the right solution is to make the 64-bit edition the default download and to work on making the error message people get when trying to install it on a 32-bit machine nicer: We're sorry, but your

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-11-18 Thread King InuYasha
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Ikem Krueger ikem.krue...@googlemail.comwrote: Except, that could be false advertising. In most cases, where CPU computation is not used heavily, 64-bit is actually SLOWER than the 32-bit counterpart. Optimizations are narrowing the gap, but it still

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-11-18 Thread King InuYasha
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Ikem Krueger ikem.krue...@googlemail.comwrote: Why then should someone prefer 64bit over 32bit? 4 Reasons: 1: Date/Time stamp, Unix time doesn't work in 32-bit past 2038 (not really affecting us much, most of us will replace our PCs long before then)

Help! Broken Dependencies in oggconvert?

2009-11-15 Thread King InuYasha
Hello, I got a warning from the buildsystem about OggConvert having broken dependencies on PowerPC, when I know OggConvert is a noarch package. What am I supposed to do? This is what I got from the buildsystem: oggconvert has broken dependencies in the development tree: On ppc:

Re: GRUB2 In Fedora

2009-11-08 Thread King InuYasha
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-11-08 at 14:34 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Wouldn't it be easier to work with GRUB2 folks to add the missing features we need? In theory yes, that's how it's supposed to go. In practice, with

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread King InuYasha
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: You have refused to cite specific legal problems with cdrkit, so there are no known legal problems that anyone can see. The proper reporting method is

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread King InuYasha
. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: While it is true that the GPL permits linking to CDDL libraries, that is only in the case if the library is a system library, which is a library that is NECESSARY

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-02 Thread King InuYasha
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: That may be true, but since cdrecord is not shippable, it's a pretty vacuous truth. The solution is obviously to fix the bug and help revive upstream, or else host a development tree on fh if upstream

Re: Fedora PPC for oldworld Mac?

2009-10-29 Thread King InuYasha
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:18 AM, David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.orgwrote: On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 22:25 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-10-28 18:24:49, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 06:17:31PM -0400, Tony Nelson wrote: Sorry to bug developers, but I didn't get any bites from

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-26 Thread King InuYasha
Well, possibly the only thing fatELF would be needed for would be to rid ourselves of multilib. Applications don't even need to be FatELF to link to FatELF libraries. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Ikem Krueger ikem.krue...@googlemail.comwrote: I just saw this article about an effort to

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread King InuYasha
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: LLVM 2.6 has been announced with Clang declared as production quality in this release http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-announce/2009-October/33.html Has anyone been looking

Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread King InuYasha
Hello, I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into single DVD sets. http://icculus.org/fatelf/ There is even a proof of concept VM

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread King InuYasha
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote: King InuYasha wrote: I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32

Re: Switch from OpenAL to OpenAL-Soft

2009-08-11 Thread King InuYasha
Because there is still no significant change in functionality, just compatibility with current audio systems. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:27 AM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:08 AM, LinuxDonaldlinuxdon...@linuxdonald.de wrote: I have add the openal-soft package

Re: Switch from OpenAL to OpenAL-Soft

2009-08-11 Thread King InuYasha
and recompile it. Am 11.08.2009 02:29, schrieb King InuYasha: Shouldn't it also be possible for openal-soft to replace the crappy old OpenAL package included in previous versions of Fedora? The openal-soft library is supposed to be compatible with applications that normally use the older OpenAL SI

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-29 Thread King InuYasha
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote: On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 15:56 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 29.07.09 09:47, Jeff Garzik (jgar...@pobox.com) wrote: mixing is certainly the smallest part of it. Plese don't forget that mixing is not

Re: Time for 2.6.30 in F-11?

2009-07-04 Thread King InuYasha
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Users with Intel's integrated chips need the updated DRM in that kernel. I think that an update is highly recommended. -Ilyes On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Bojan Smojverbo...@rexursive.com wrote: Now that .1

Re: KSplice in Fedora?

2009-07-01 Thread King InuYasha
If your desktop doubles as a server, then no you don't turn off the computer... On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.dewrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 01.07.2009 17:48, schrieb Kevin Kofler: Whose behavior? Turning the computer off

Re: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono

2009-06-29 Thread King InuYasha
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: Frank Murphy, Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:38:45 +0100: Is there any contingency plans in place, for a worst case scenario if C#, is lost? FesCo? Sure, there is, but no need to panic ... sky is not falling yet (and there are many

KSplice in Fedora?

2009-06-29 Thread King InuYasha
I was reading an article today in ComputerWorld about something called KSplice, which allows Linux users to install critical updates and patch in without rebooting the computer. I tried it and while it was a bit odd for installing (not auto-disabling the Ubuntu update system), it worked very well.

Re: KSplice in Fedora?

2009-06-29 Thread King InuYasha
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:19:53PM +, Christopher Brown wrote: I understand Microsoft has patented this technology so it is currently no-go for inclusion. [jwbo...@hansolo ~]$ koji latest-pkg dist-f11 ksplice Build

Re: KSplice in Fedora?

2009-06-29 Thread King InuYasha
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.comwrote: On 06/29/2009 10:49 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: It can only handle small patches which don't change any data structures. So the official Fedora kernel updates will never be suitable to be distributed through KSplice.

Odd omission for qt4-devel package

2009-06-26 Thread King InuYasha
I found a very strange omission for the qt4-devel package. The path to qt4-devel binaries (/usr/lib/qt4/bin) isn't automatically added to $PATH like qt3's are. Additionally, when I removed the qt3-devel package, the path to qt3-devel binaries (/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin) isn't automatically removed from

Re: Odd omission for qt4-devel package

2009-06-26 Thread King InuYasha
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:05:41 -0500, King wrote: I found a very strange omission for the qt4-devel package. The path to qt4-devel binaries (/usr/lib/qt4/bin) isn't automatically added to $PATH like qt3's are.

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-16 Thread King InuYasha
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote: Seth Vidal wrote: 1. we're going to need split media for dvds - we're SOL there anyway - so the code will need to live on. Just kick out all the i18n stuff and you won't. It doesn't make sense to force people to

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-16 Thread King InuYasha
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 11:42 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) said: Removing support for still-functional hardware is a trademark of Microsoft, not Linux. I'd also argue that doing

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-16 Thread King InuYasha
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 11:42 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) said: Removing support for still-functional hardware is a trademark of Microsoft, not Linux. I'd also argue that doing

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-14 Thread King InuYasha
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Bradley Baetz bba...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/06/09 04:53, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious. But if a user has bandwidth problems, how is\are mutiple CD's going to help, or is it purely on hardware

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-14 Thread King InuYasha
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.netwrote: On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:30, King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Bradley Baetz bba...@gmail.com bba...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/06/09 04:53, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote

Re: GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10

2009-06-11 Thread King InuYasha
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Matthew Garrett m...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 05:03:56PM -0500, King InuYasha wrote: Well, not necessarily Mac OS X itself. Wouldn't the Darwin kernel require it anyway? I have been installing Chameleon so I could boot the regular

Re: GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10

2009-06-10 Thread King InuYasha
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Michal Nowak mno...@redhat.com wrote: Just noticed Canonical is pushing GRUB 2 as default in Ubuntu 9.10 [1]. There are some hints on testing [2] and from what I can see there are 40 bugs opened against GRUB 2 in launchpad [3] v. zero in our Bugzilla. Was

Re: GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10

2009-06-10 Thread King InuYasha
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Christopher Brown snecklif...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/6/10 King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com: I would like to see GRUB Legacy replaced in Fedora 12 with GRUB 2, especially with a couple odd systems here that don't seem to like GRUB Legacy all that much

Re: GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10

2009-06-10 Thread King InuYasha
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Dennis J. denni...@conversis.de wrote: On 06/10/2009 10:43 AM, Christopher Brown wrote: 2009/6/10 King InuYashangomp...@gmail.com: I would like to see GRUB Legacy replaced in Fedora 12 with GRUB 2, especially with a couple odd systems here that don't seem

Re: GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10

2009-06-10 Thread King InuYasha
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Dennis J. denni...@conversis.de wrote: On 06/10/2009 06:36 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 11:07 -0500, King InuYasha wrote: Well, the existing GRUB used in distros was declared Legacy a long time ago. GRUB 2 is a rewrite that is supposed

Re: GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10

2009-06-10 Thread King InuYasha
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 15:13 -0500, King InuYasha wrote: EFI support is not the same as fake-EFI. Your mail client has atrociously bad indentation. Fix it. It appears from light googling that what you mean by fake EFI

Re: Mono ( Moonlight) Licensing? Revisited

2009-06-06 Thread King InuYasha
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote: King InuYasha wrote: Then don't use FFmpeg. And since Moonlight itself will not contain the MS codec pack, it can still fit in main Fedora repositories. So you're suggesting we should promote the proprietary M

Re: Mono ( Moonlight) Licensing? Revisited

2009-06-05 Thread King InuYasha
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote: King InuYasha wrote: I really don't see why you should freak out over Moonlight, if Mono is protected, then Moonlight 2 should be protected, since it is a form of Mono itself. Moonlight needs to go to RPM Fusion

Re: Fedora 11 Test Day survey

2009-06-03 Thread King InuYasha
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:10 AM, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, The Fedora QA team would like your feedback on Fedora 11 Test Days. You may have seen Adam Williamson's planet post [1] kicking off Fedora 12 Test Day planning. We're interested in identifying areas for