Re: Our static Libraries packaging guidelines once more

2010-01-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:57:14 +, Adam wrote: On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 12:16 -0500, Tom spot Callaway wrote: Well, I think a reasonable alternative would be to add those policies to the AutoQA infrastructure, and if the package fails the check, it doesn't get tagged and the packager gets

Our static Libraries packaging guidelines once more

2010-01-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
How much do we adhere to our Packaging Guidelines for static libraries? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Packaging_Static_Libraries What had started with a few Yum queries for corner-cases (see https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-packaging/2009-December/msg00012.html )

Re: Top Crashers

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:12:18 +, Matthew wrote: Now we have abrt making it easier for lazy people to submit crash reports, do we have enough information for a 'Top Crashers' list? It would be good to highlight these centrally to provide an incentive to give them the attention they

Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:53:28 +0100, Jiri wrote: ABRT 1.0.2 should fix the problems with installing the debug packages, the only problem I know about is when some of the enabled repositories is down - then the yum fails to download debuginfo even if it's in working directory and there is

Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:04:59 +0100, Kevin wrote: What's wrong with ABRT? My main beef with it is that it reports its crashes to the downstream bug tracker when really the right people to fix them are the upstream developers. KCrash/DrKonqi is much better there. Well, upstream would want

Re: rawhide report: 20091231 changes

2009-12-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:16:18 +, Richard wrote: On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:52:49PM +, Rawhide Report wrote: [...] I got half way through doing these yesterday, but a combination of being distracted and a mistake in my script means I forgot some. One annoying thing about Koji is I

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:52:54 +, Daniel wrote: Hi, OLPC's security system uses libtomcrypt / tomsfastmath, both at the Linux level and the firmware level. OLPC has previously had a specific version of tomcrypt/tommath profesionally audited for security reasons. So we obviously want to

ABRT considered painful

2009-12-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
What's wrong with ABRT? Originally, with stock F-12, I had received a couple of good backtraces in bugzilla. Incredibly useful. A wonderful improvement over F-11 and older. And later? - Recently, in all the backtraces dozens of debuginfo packages are missing. :-( -- fedora-devel-list mailing

Re: rpms/i3/devel .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 i3.spec, 1.1, 1.2 import.log, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.2, 1.3

2009-12-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:29:16 + (UTC), Simon wrote: Author: cassmodiah Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/i3/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv21345/devel Modified Files: .cvsignore i3.spec import.log sources Log Message: 3.d - 3.d-bf1 Name: i3

Re: Koji stuck?

2009-12-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:40:36 -0500, Orcan wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: The temporary work-around is to compile with  -fno-var-tracking-assignments and that also works for lv2-c++-tools in the review queue, btw. Thanks! Yes, with that flag I

Re: Koji stuck?

2009-12-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:19:37 -0500, Orcan wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:02:24 + Jonathan Underwood wrote: Hi, I kicked off a couple of builds last night which appear stuck on koji. I had checked they build locally with a make

Re: Electric Fence - still reliable?

2009-12-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:07:04 +0100, I wrote: Fedora 12 with LD_PRELOAD=libefence.so.0.0 EF_ALLOW_MALLOC_0=1, what is more likely that these are false positives or real bugs? It's hard to find GNOME/GTK apps that don't crash. One that works fine in efence is gnome-about. Many non-GUI tools

Re: Electric Fence - still reliable?

2009-12-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:18:30 +, Bastien wrote: $ eog Electric Fence 2.2.2 Copyright (C) 1987-1999 Bruce Perens br...@perens.com Segmentation fault (core dumped) == in ORBit corba-any.c once more All the GNOME apps that use GConf or ORBit will fail because you need to

Re: Electric Fence - still reliable?

2009-12-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:57:31 +, Bastien wrote: I'm not sure even trying to use ElectricFence is such a good idea anyway, when we have valgrind available. Yeah, likely. I examined some uninitialised variables with Valgrind yesterday. For a couple of other cases (including Audacious),

Re: Electric Fence - still reliable?

2009-12-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:47:02 -0800, John wrote: [ElectricFence] triggering ABRT activity, whereas [Valgrind] requires increased effort to make sense of undetailed traces such as the following (which is bug 548711): ==13516== Invalid read of size 1 ==13516==at 0x400730E: strcmp

Re: Fedora update submission page broken for multiple packages

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:41:22 -0500, Tom wrote: Orcan Ogetbil writes: If there is a way to file an update (same version and release except the disttag) to multiple branches, please let me know. Usually it works: just add all the package NVRs to the same update submission. (That's what

Electric Fence - still reliable?

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
Fedora 12 with LD_PRELOAD=libefence.so.0.0 EF_ALLOW_MALLOC_0=1, what is more likely that these are false positives or real bugs? --- $ gnome-terminal Electric Fence 2.2.2 Copyright (C) 1987-1999 Bruce Perens br...@perens.com Segmentation fault (core dumped) == in ORBit corba-any.c $ geeqie

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:00:06 +0530, Huzaifa wrote: Hi, So taking into consideration all the feed back , here are the changes done: - - bump soname in the code from 1.2.11 to 1.2.12 Please, with further comments on this package let's limit ourselves to one place only. _Eiter_ the review

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:07:29 +0530, Huzaifa wrote: I have forked libtar as libtar-ng, because the upstream does not have time to maintain it anymore. Here is the bz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546169 Now the question is what is a private fork? Am i wrong in forking it

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:14:40 +0530, Rahul wrote: On 12/11/2009 03:56 PM, Florian Festi wrote: Without knowing the history: Best solution would be to ask former upstream for permission to continue the project under its original name That was already denied

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:43:16 +0530, Rahul wrote: On 12/11/2009 04:38 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:14:40 +0530, Rahul wrote: On 12/11/2009 03:56 PM, Florian Festi wrote: Without knowing the history: Best solution would be to ask former upstream for permission

Re: rpms/blacs/F-12 blacs.spec,1.35,1.36

2009-12-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:23 + (UTC), Deji wrote: Author: deji Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/blacs/F-12 - Fix broken dep issue on F-12 -Release: 34%{?dist}.1 +Release: 34%{?dist}.2 -Obsoletes: blacs-lam 1.1-33 +Obsoletes: blacs-lam = 1.1-33 This is a common pitfall due to %dist.

Re: abrt issue

2009-12-09 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:47:44 -0500, Neal wrote: I just got a crash in kde plasma. Traceback is not useful, because of missing debug pacakges. Seems to happen more frequently recently. The latest backtraces I've seen in bugzilla all were missing dozens of debuginfo packages. I'm told I can

Re: selinux disabled: what selinux related rpms can I safely remove?

2009-12-03 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:23:21 +0100, Jean-Luc wrote: Thanks, jlf At least: rpm -e selinux-policy policycoreutils-gui selinux-policy-targeted rpm -e checkpolicy policycoreutils policycoreutils-python setroubleshoot-server setroubleshoot-plugins Drop any that aren't present (or else rpm -e

Re: Pulseaudio in F12

2009-11-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:38:15 +0100, Michal wrote: Dne Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:05:28 -0200 Paulo Cavalcanti napsal(a): Thanks for the explanation. At least 3 applications are not restoring the volumes: xmms, mplayer and audacious. Interesting. Maybe these programs try to be too clever

Re: Pulseaudio in F12

2009-11-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:43:10 +, Bastien wrote: Notice that the documentation for pa_stream_connect_playback strongly recommends passing NULL as volume. This looks correct, you're never supposed to restore volume yourself when using PulseAudio. Which is exactly my fix that went into

Re: license issue - combining gplv2 and lgpl sources in a single rpm

2009-11-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:25:27 -0800, Carl wrote: The rasmol source has a dual GPLv2/RASMOL license, so for Fedora we can consider that it is licensed gplv2. There are some libraries that are included that are licensed lgpl. This is covered by:

Re: Improve the way rpm decides what is newer

2009-11-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:59:20 -0500, Przemek wrote: Essentially, these proposals can be seen as attempts to introduce a 2-dimensional ordering: on one hand, classifying packages by their version number, and on the other hand by a distribution. Mathematically this is impossible---it's a

Re: Improve the way rpm decides what is newer

2009-11-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:26:11 -0500, Orcan wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:31:27 -0500, Tony wrote: On 09-11-21 06:40:45, drago01 wrote:  ... You misunderstood me, I was not suggesting adding another epoch but simply bump

Re: rawhide report screwing up changelogs (was: Re: rawhide report: 20091123 changes)

2009-11-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:39:28 +0100, Christoph wrote: When two builds of the same version are done on the same day, the rawhide report screws up the order of the changelog entries: Am Montag, den 23.11.2009, 13:28 + schrieb Rawhide Report: nimbus-0.1.4-2.fc13 --- *

Re: rawhide report screwing up changelogs (was: Re: rawhide report: 20091123 changes)

2009-11-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:04:49 +0100, Christoph wrote: Am Montag, den 23.11.2009, 14:56 +0100 schrieb Michael Schwendt: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:39:28 +0100, Christoph wrote: When two builds of the same version are done on the same day, the rawhide report screws up the order

Re: rawhide report screwing up changelogs (was: Re: rawhide report: 20091123 changes)

2009-11-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:56:58 -0500 (EST), Seth wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:04:49 +0100, Christoph wrote: Am Montag, den 23.11.2009, 14:56 +0100 schrieb Michael Schwendt: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:39:28 +0100, Christoph wrote: When two

Re: Improve the way rpm decides what is newer

2009-11-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:38:35 +0100, drago01 wrote: We should just use release epochs, people might hate them for whatever reasons, but they would easily prevent such issues from happing. Vendor Epochs have been discussed years ago and have been rejected. The normal %{epoch} in RPM Version

Re: Improve the way rpm decides what is newer

2009-11-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:40:45 +0100, drago01 wrote: On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:38:35 +0100, drago01 wrote: We should just use release epochs, people might hate them for whatever reasons, but they would easily prevent such issues from happing. Vendor Epochs have been discussed years ago and

Re: Improve the way rpm decides what is newer

2009-11-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:31:27 -0500, Tony wrote: On 09-11-21 06:40:45, drago01 wrote: ... You misunderstood me, I was not suggesting adding another epoch but simply bump the %{epoch} for every release. If this were really important to do, just putting the release first in the version

Re: Improve the way rpm decides what is newer

2009-11-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:16:39 -0800, Adam wrote: I was going to suggest what seems an obvious alternative way to do what Christian wants, without changing anything in rpm. Instead of: foobar-1.0-1.fc12.x86-64 have: foobar-fc12-1.0-1.x86-64 Insufficient. Making %dist most-significant

libmpcdec vs. Musepack SV8

2009-11-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
http://www.musepack.net/index.php?pg=src http://files.musepack.net/source/musepack_src_r435.tar.gz It seems we only have the old libmpcdec 1.2.6 in Fedora, which can decode SV7 but not SV8. Is the new set of libs and tools (from March 2009) hidden somewhere? Or are there new legal problems? --

Re: abrt bugzilla reporting - does it work?

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:29:10 +0100, Denys wrote: Did anybody submit bugs successfully using this tool? Yes. Well, with F-12 and a segfault in Claws Mail, it created a bugzilla ticket for me, but I couldn't get it to upload/attach the backtrace. Not even when retrying multiple times to send

Re: Review request...

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:38:31 +0100, Martin wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537587 Hm... on a very quick first look, you obviously don't follow https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:NamingGuidelines#Package_Release The difference being that *you* point out a specific

Re: Review request...

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:44:50 -0200, Itamar wrote: may be, but sponsors or reviewers doesn't have entire day free time. True, but an entire day is not needed. And nobody forces you to become a reviewer [or a sponsor] and spend any time at all on reviewing or guiding [new] packagers. The

Re: A silly question about our FC tag

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:18:27 -0800, Jesse wrote: If we did a macro change in dist-f13 and a mass rebuild, and did a macro change on dist-f12 and dist-f11 at the same time (without a mass rebuild) this might work. Only with severe discipline by all packagers who push updates to multiple

Re: rpmlint warnings...

2009-11-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:24:03 -0700, Nathanael wrote: libdspam.x86_64: W: devel-file-in-non-devel-package /usr/lib64/libdspam.so [g...@iridium ~]$ ls -l /usr/lib64/libdspam.* -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 175812 2009-11-15 13:54 /usr/lib64/libdspam.a -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root954 2009-11-15 13:54

Re: The tag mercurial-1_4-1_fc12 is already applied on a different branch

2009-11-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:02:01 -0500, Neal wrote: Seems I do this every time we have a new release. How about you avoid that mistake in the future? ;) In F12: cvs tag -F -c mercurial-1_4-1_fc12 ERROR: The tag mercurial-1_4-1_fc12 is already applied on a different branch ERROR: You can not

Re: The tag mercurial-1_4-1_fc12 is already applied on a different branch

2009-11-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:26:39 -0600, Dennis wrote: On Monday 16 November 2009 04:02:01 pm Neal Becker wrote: Seems I do this every time we have a new release. In F12: cvs tag -F -c mercurial-1_4-1_fc12 ERROR: The tag mercurial-1_4-1_fc12 is already applied on a different branch

Re: Broken dependencies script at it again

2009-11-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:36:27 +0100, Steve wrote: $ repoclosure -r updates | grep '^ ' | sort | uniq -c | sort -gr | head 167 rtld(GNU_HASH) 130 /sbin/ldconfig 127 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit) 127 libc.so.6()(64bit) 101 /bin/sh on the

Re: rpmlint warnings...

2009-11-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:44 +0100, Dominik wrote: On Sunday, 15 November 2009 at 21:59, Nathanael Noblet wrote: Hello, So I recently posted my first package and the review. While I waited I started cleaning up more issues I found after I realized you could run rpmlint on the actual

Re: rpms/iptstate/devel iptstate.spec,1.22,1.23

2009-11-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:30:43 + (UTC), Paul wrote: Author: stingray Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/iptstate/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv20114 Modified Files: iptstate.spec Log Message: iptstate-2.2.2-2 Please give make clog and cvs commit -F clog a

Re: rpms/iptstate/F-12 iptstate.spec,1.21,1.22

2009-11-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:17:58 + (UTC), Paul wrote: Author: stingray Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/iptstate/F-12 %changelog +* Tue Nov 10 2009 Paul P. Komkoff Jr i...@stingr.net - 2.2.2-2 +- rebuild for libnetfilter_conntrack-0.0.100 + +* Tue Nov 10 2009 Thomas Woerner twoer...@redhat.com

Re: rpms/iptstate/F-12 iptstate.spec,1.21,1.22

2009-11-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:53:35 +, Christopher wrote: Oops, too late! [ch...@yoda ~]$ sudo yum update Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package dhclient.x86_64 12:4.1.0p1-4.fc11 set to be updated

Re: Broken dependencies with Fedora 11 updates-testing - 2009-11-11

2009-11-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:52:50 +0100, LinuxDonald wrote: Am 11.11.2009 21:16, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 11/12/2009 01:05 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: The following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies

Re: Broken dependencies with Fedora 11 updates-testing - 2009-11-11

2009-11-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:36:38 -0600, Ian wrote: Can someone give me a definitive answer on whether or not I need to rebuild tremulous and tremfusion with the new ABI? I'm willing to, I just need the confusion to go away. No need to. This was just the separate openal-soft package that is

Re: odd file requires

2009-11-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:01:54 +0100, Kevin wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: Leaving it as a package requires means hard-coding knowledge in qemu about which version of gpxe-roms-qemu provides which roms. IMHO, the file requires makes more sense. So what? Many packages have hardcoded

Dependency problems on upgrade from F-11 to F-12

2009-11-09 Thread Michael Schwendt
Results of an extras-repoclosure run for F-11 + Updates to F-12 + Updates and i686: | source rpm: PolicyKit-olpc-1.2-2.fc11.src.rpm | package: PolicyKit-olpc-1.2-2.fc11.noarch from fedora-11-i386 | unresolved deps: | /var/lib/PolicyKit-public | related pkgs: | PolicyKit The new polkit

Re: rawhide report: 20091104 changes - excluding noarch packages

2009-11-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:06:34 -0700, Orion wrote: On 11/04/2009 09:04 AM, Andrew Overholt wrote: * Orion Poplawskior...@cora.nwra.com [2009-11-04 10:58]: On 11/04/2009 07:47 AM, Rawhide Report wrote: Compose started at Wed Nov 4 08:15:08 UTC 2009 Broken deps for ppc64

libsndfile status?

2009-11-03 Thread Michael Schwendt
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/bugs/libsndfile What's up with libsndfile in Fedora and EPEL? There are open tickets about CVEs filed in March. There are additional tickets without any reply. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 20091030

2009-11-03 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:08:53 -0500, Jon wrote: * fluidsynth and PA (jds2001, 17:04:44) * LINK: http://markmail.org/message/bovdqb7na3zor2ck - without comment. (mjg59, 17:17:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500087#c13 (jds2001, 17:19:22) * AGREED: PA

Re: rpms/fence-agents/F-11 fence-agents.spec,1.13,1.14

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:51:14 + (UTC), Fabio wrote: Author: fabbione Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fence-agents/F-11 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv15209 Modified Files: fence-agents.spec Log Message: Fix Requires: on libvirt/libvirt-client +%if 0%{?fedora}

Re: rpms/fence-agents/F-11 fence-agents.spec,1.13,1.14

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:17:30 +0100, Fabio wrote: +%if 0%{?fedora} = 12 +Requires: libvirt-client +%else +Requires: libvirt +%endif + What is this explicit dependency on a package name supposed to achieve? There is the automatic arch-specific dependency on the libvirt SONAME

Re: rpms/fence-agents/F-11 fence-agents.spec,1.13,1.14

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:37:28 +0100, Fabio wrote: I also considered a specific file Requires: /usr/bin/virsh, but policy suggests to avoid that for different reasons. Really? What policy is that? Programs in bin paths are covered by the primary metadata. Such a dependency would be more

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:20:59 +0100, Christoph wrote: Am Sonntag, den 25.10.2009, 20:56 +0100 schrieb Haïkel Guémar: This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken, since it wasn't critical, i had always delayed it. Why i pushed the update on older branches ?

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:39:56 +0100, Haïkel wrote: This was a very very low priority task for me, python-mpd is roughly one python file mpd.py. There was only one use-case, i could think about : an unexperienced developer including it in his multiplatform project. Then, he shares it with his

gnaughty (was: Re: Who do I send to get a package removed...)

2009-10-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:29:46 +0200, Haïkel wrote: I recently came accross Gnaughty (aka Fast and Easy Porn Downloader), I'm seriously thinking to file a ticket against it. It can be used to download p0rn, yuck ! What sort of content should we provide as replacement ? Is this a joke ? It

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:26:53 -0700, Adam wrote: (push some Xorg changes we'd never be happy about putting in stable into it). If you know that you would _never_ be happy with a test-update becoming a stable update, then either don't push such a test-update or unpush it (manually or by relying

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:58:45 +0200, Kevin wrote: We really need some stricter enforcement against stuff sitting in testing forever. Rather we need some rules against such mindset. We don't guarantee anything about updates-testing. It's a place where to test potential updates/upgrades. And if

Re: rpms/libXres/devel .cvsignore, 1.9, 1.10 libXres.spec, 1.26, 1.27 sources, 1.10, 1.11

2009-10-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:20:52 -0400, Adam wrote: On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 10:32 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: If all Fedora releases have the autoprovides but EL-5 is still affected, the draft can be as simple as: rpm detects pkgconfig dependencies in all Fedora releases, please move the

Re: libprojectM Packaging Problem

2009-10-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:33:12 -0400, Jameson wrote: My current attempt at their SVN code can be found at: http://www.vtscrew.com/libprojectM-1.2.0r1295-9.fc11.src.rpm Patch attached. Do the same for any other directories where it may be necessary. diff -Nur

Retiring gai, gai-temp, gai-pal

2009-10-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
The current thread on ksensors, id3lib has reminded me to give gnome-applet-sensors another try right now. In F11. It works for me while that hasn't been true before (troubles with acpi thrm or no sensors). As a result, I'd like to retire GAI (General Applet Interface Library) and two of the

Re: rpms/libgdiplus/devel .cvsignore, 1.24, 1.25 import.log, 1.14, 1.15 libgdiplus.spec, 1.46, 1.47 sources, 1.27, 1.28

2009-10-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:28:24 + (UTC), Paul wrote: Author: pfj Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/libgdiplus/devel Log Message: Bump to 2.6 preview 1 +libgdiplus-2_6-1_fc12:HEAD:libgdiplus-2.6-1.fc12.src.rpm:1254669963 You need to update your common checkout, because devel has become .fc13

Re: Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:32:06 +0200, Stefan wrote: Hi all, I took over a package a couple of days ago and have a question according to a provide statement. Consider the following one: Name: myapp Provides: myapp.pl If I interpret the naming guidelines right, then a period is not

Re: Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:43:38 +0200, Nicolas wrote: Le Mar 29 septembre 2009 17:26, Jason L Tibbitts III a écrit : SSF == Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus writes: SSF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuidelines#Separators SSF When naming packages for Fedora, the maintainer must

Re: Script to detect conflicting files in PATH within a yum repo (was Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi)

2009-09-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:10:16 -0400, Neal wrote: But the original problem was a file level conflict. I've been reporting file level conflicts for a long time (with a script on my fedorapeople page which is lacking automatic multilib support, however), but the openmpi/libotf conflict has been

Re: Non-responsive maintainer process for kurzawa / Krzysztof Kurzawski

2009-09-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:10:03 +0200, Till wrote: Good example of how poor the current process is. I agree, but at least in 3 weeks if I do remember to write all mails or bug comments, then FESCo will hopefully agree to allow other maintainers to get the packages in this case. But I would

Re: Triggers just to avoid unowned directories?

2009-09-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:13:25 -0700, Jesse wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 17:44 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Multi-ownership seems *far* preferable to me than using triggers to move files around, or moving a prelink-specific directory to the base filesystem package. Then the guidelines

Re: rpms/nss/devel nss.spec,1.105,1.106

2009-08-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:44:40 -0700, Elio wrote: Problem should be fixed in nss-3.12.3.99.3-29.fc12. See http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=129934 and comments in Bug 520277. Why do you add an explicit Requires: sqlite to package nss if that one isn't even linked with

Triggers just to avoid unowned directories?

2009-08-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
The packaging style in the nss-softokn package continues to bug me. There are RPM triggers being used to install/remove a prelink config file whenever the prelink package gets installed/removed. According to a comment in the spec file, it is only done like that because the package doesn't want

Re: rpms/nss/devel nss.spec,1.105,1.106

2009-08-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:13:54 + (UTC), Elio wrote: Author: emaldonado Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/nss/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv14629 Modified Files: nss.spec Log Message: Do not require sqlite for nss, it breaks nss-util install - bug 520277

Re: pkgs in rawhide which are obsoleted by something in rawhide

2009-08-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:30:21 -0400 (EDT), Seth wrote: Working on something else I stumbled across this: http://fpaste.org/jDwM/ that's a list of pkgs in rawhide which are obsoleted by something else in rawhide. seems a bit dodgy to me. Yeah, often packagers don't request Fedora

Re: ktorrent adds kdm - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:14:43 -0400, Ben wrote: [KDE X session file] So your issue is that kdebase-workspace puts it there, but it's not complete, so it shouldn't? Well, in case installing ktorrent shall drag in the packages for a complete KDE desktop, the current dependencies are incomplete.

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:07:48 +0200, Kevin wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: A quick way to actually check for such dependencies is to switch to another desktop environment, say Xfce, remove all the KDE packages and install one of the KDE apps. It usually reveals dependencies which are rather

Re: showing dependency trees

2009-08-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
though E doesn't use any of the functionality that A provides. For example, Michael Schwendt demonstrated that ktorrent pulls in qt-mysql, which in turn depends on mysql-libs. That's OK if Ktorrent can actually do something that results in queries to a MySQL database. Otherwise it drags

Re: ktorrent adds kdm - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:01:39 -0400, Ben wrote: Oh dear, run for your lives. Last I used GDM, I didn't know where to change the session type (I was looking). I haven't used it in over a year since it's one of the first things to get replaced on my systems. Looking at a screenshot with

Re: PackageKit and yum --skip-broken

2009-08-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:19:10 +0100, Richard wrote: 2009/8/25 Paul W. Frields: I might be wrong, but I could swear that PK acted like this in my Rawhide machine the other day when there was a particular deps problem at the mirror. PK already does skip-broken, but can't run if the

Re: rpms/nss-softokn/devel nss-softokn-3.12.3.99.3-stripped.tar.bz2, NONE, 1.1

2009-08-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:32:11 -0700, Elio wrote: Conrad, You are right. By reading at Makefile.common it seems that make new-source nss-softokn-3.12.3.99.3-stripped.tar.bz2 would be the way to place them in the lookaside cache (after I do the cvs remove on them). The nss/nss-softokn

Re: Koji build failure with coreutils-7.5

2009-08-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:12:49 -0400, Todd wrote: I tried to build a git update into dist-f12-openssl earlier and had it die in %doc with an error from cp¹: cp: preserving times for `/builddir/build/BUILDROOT/git-1.6.4.1-1.fc12.i386/usr/share/doc/git-1.6.4.1/contrib/hooks': Function not

Re: [Bug 506671] GNOME/Gtk scrollbar corruption with fedora-gnome-theme

2009-08-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506671 No comment since two months. Not even a confirmation that the last comment is true. Fedora 11 still looks bad due to this. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:31:28 +0400, Pavel wrote: 23.08.2009 02:15, Kevin Kofler wrote: Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: My point was different: I want use gwenview but don't always use kdegrapics, wich have big size. So, I often use it in XFCE. But packaging an obsolete

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:13:34 +0200, Kevin wrote: drago01 wrote: Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single package obsolete a complete group update? That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it. It's broken (we've had some fun with that with the KDE

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:34:24 +0200, Aurelien wrote: I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over: - taglib -- Audio Meta-Data Library I'll sign up for that one... -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:18:50 -0400, Josh wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:19:39AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: == The results in this summary consider Test Updates

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:20:54 -0500, Juan wrote: I maintain beagle, and although I did add the Excludes directive to it, the reason I haven't pushed the update is because it doesn't actually fix anything other than prevent that annoying email from being sent out. Thanks for calling it

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
It looks to me as if some people need to learn how to talk to eachother. Look at this! A big update package for Mono packages: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-6615 Date Released: 2009-06-18 11:01:34 gbrainy, giver, gnome-do, mono-zeroconf, ipod-sharp,

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:24:38 +0530, Rahul wrote: On 08/17/2009 03:22 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Then you should also know that a buildroot overwrite for the other branches has been requested as well, so a simple rebuild should fix everything for those maintainers, who want to switch

Re: xulrunner-1.9.1.1-1.fc11.x86_64 update pulls in i586 packages

2009-08-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:17:55 -0400, Braden wrote: On 7/23/09 12:13 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:55:57 -0400, Braden wrote: Is the problem that the gecko-libs dependency is not arch-specific? How do we fix that? You could make it arch-specific by depending

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:04:14 +0200, LinuxDonald wrote: I have updated the packages for F-10 and F-11 with conflicts and without obseltues :) Explicit Conflicts need the approval of the Fedora Packaging Committee. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:39:37 +0900, Mamoru wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote, at 08/16/2009 09:29 PM +9:00: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:04:14 +0200, LinuxDonald wrote: I have updated the packages for F-10 and F-11 with conflicts and without obseltues :) Explicit Conflicts need the approval

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:30:31 +0900, Mamoru wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote, at 08/16/2009 11:47 PM +9:00: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:39:37 +0900, Mamoru wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote, at 08/16/2009 09:29 PM +9:00: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:04:14 +0200, LinuxDonald wrote: I have updated

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:34:20 +0900, Mamoru wrote: First of all, please make it clear under what branch you want to discuss, devel, F-11 or F-10. With regard to Conflicts, the policies apply to all branches. There are still open bugzilla tickets filed long ago with packagers not taking action

Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:56:55 + (UTC), Jesse wrote: And, what can I do to help get descriptions added for the 4 updates I mentioned? If you can't get the submitter of the updates to add descriptions, in the future it may need a separate team of community volunteers who get an Edit

Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:41:26 +0200, Kevin wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: Correct, such a step will add a significant bureaucratic burdons to maintainers. As maintainers hate bureaucrazy and prefer investing time on dealing with technical issues (such as bug fixes), this will likely

Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:51:57 +0200, Kevin wrote: AIUI, the package changelog only really needs to contain what you changed in the specfile, Tell that all the package maintainers, who do it differently. Overall, however, what updates need is feedback from actual testers before they are

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