Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 14:18:23 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Two, it makes testing things a bit more complex. Those of us who like to > test upcoming stuff in real use - i.e. on our main machines - will have > to choose whether to test "rawhide", in which case we'll have more pain > to de

Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi I did a quick survey from Fedora on what software Fedora users are using that is not available in the repo. Here are the results. If you find anything interesting, feel free to pick it up. https://fedoraproject.o

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

Alexander Boström wrote: > There's already lib / lib64 for parallell-installation of libraries, > though granted it's limited to only two arches, but yes, something that > covers bin too would be useful. bin is not multilib for a reason. You don't need 32-bit binaries on a 64-bit machine unless t

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

I would also like to jump on the help train if there is anything I am able to lend a hand with. -Adam (From Android) On Oct 22, 2009 9:05 PM, "Mike McGrath" wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Adam Miller wrote: > I think this is an awesome idea, and yes I think this "ve... I agree, how can I help?

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

Sam Varshavchik wrote: > 32 bits will be here for a long, long time, of course At most 29 years. 32-bit GNU/Linux doesn't support dates beyond 2038. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

King InuYasha wrote: > I dunno, it could be useful for Live CDs/USBs. It would let you pack > multiple arches onto a single LiveCD/USB. The Live CDs are already full without supporting this completely useless "feature". Surely, the real solution is to position the 64-bit version more prominently

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 18:26 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: I actually have both. rhel bugs get assigned to svidal at redhat.com fedora bugs go to skvidal at sethdot.org Many people aren't willing to jump through the hoops necessary to manage that separat

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Adam Miller wrote: > I think this is an awesome idea, and yes I think this "version" of the > verbage is more clear. Kudos to Jesse (and all those involved in the > development of the idea of the "split rawhide") and I hope to see this > come to fruition. > I agree, how can I

RE: pxe-kexec

I'll take it if that's ok. I'm new to packaging and looking for more experience. -Scott >-Original Message- >From: fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list- >boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ed Swierk >Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 6:12 PM >To: Development disc

Re: the mass rebuild and i586 rpms?

Hi, On 22.10.2009 19:29, Quentin Armitage wrote: 1. Is the script that is run and produces the output at http://jkeating.fedorapeople.org/needed-f12-rebuilds.html actually the script referred to at the bottom of that page (https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/browser/scripts) ? The reason I ask is t

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

I think this is an awesome idea, and yes I think this "version" of the verbage is more clear. Kudos to Jesse (and all those involved in the development of the idea of the "split rawhide") and I hope to see this come to fruition. -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com ---

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 14:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I have two particular nits with it. One, it's pretty unwieldy, > especially for part time maintainers (thinking how many hoops we'll have > to jump through just to keep our packages up to date). Having to jump > through the Bodhi hoops

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 18:26 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: > I actually have both. > > rhel bugs get assigned to svidal at redhat.com > fedora bugs go to skvidal at sethdot.org Many people aren't willing to jump through the hoops necessary to manage that separation. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedo

Plan for tomorrow's (20091023) FESCo meeting

Sorry for the late agenda. Here's the plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting happening at 17:0UTC on irc.freenode.net 261 Followup on documenting FESCo decisions on wiki For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorah

pxe-kexec

A few months ago I put together a package for pxe-kexec, a tool that uses kexec to boot already-running machine from a PXE server, which is handy for kicking off OS installs remotely. The package has been reviewed and is ready to go, except I'm not sponsored and haven't found the time to become one

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 04:42:16PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:43:46AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: What kind of checks do

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:02:42 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > Yes, but it may happen before the bodhi stage, when we get autoqa > working on post-build tests. This kind of check could happen at SCM > commit time, package build time, or finally bodhi push time. Seems > reasonable that we'd

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

Le Jeu 22 octobre 2009 23:45, Adam Williamson a écrit : > > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 16:42 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > >> > Perhaps no one should be using their @redhat.com address for Fedora >> > work :-/ >> >> We generally discourage it but several still do it. > > Uh, we do? No-one's ever indica

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 04:42:16PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:43:46AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > > > What kind of checks do you mean? If maintainers want to

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 16:42 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > Perhaps no one should be using their @redhat.com address for Fedora > > work :-/ > > We generally discourage it but several still do it. Uh, we do? No-one's ever indicated that to me. Why would it be discouraged? Doesn't RH like its cont

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

Le Jeu 22 octobre 2009 23:20, Jesse Keating a écrit : > So you can continue to run rawhide all you want. Your entry point to > rawhide may change slightly, you may have to start with the current > Fedora release or the current testing release for the next Fedora, and > then upgrade to the rawhi

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

Pete Zaitcev writes: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:28:36 -0500, King InuYasha wrote: I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into single

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:43:46AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > > What kind of checks do you mean? If maintainers want to keep their > > > packages, they can just change the owner of the package

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:43:46AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > What kind of checks do you mean? If maintainers want to keep their > > packages, they can just change the owner of the package to their new > > private account before leaving Red

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 14:47 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:54 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > Hi all. It has been brought to my attention that my description of my > > future vision of rawhide as explained here is much clearer than previous > > attempts (including the c

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:50 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > Hi all. It has been brought to my attention that my description of my > future vision of rawhide as explained here is much clearer than previous > attempts (including the current "no frozen rawhide" wiki page). So I > felt it prudent to fo

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:43 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > What kind of checks do you mean? If maintainers want to keep their > > packages, they can just change the owner of the package to their new > > private account before leaving Red Hat.

Re: Fedora 12 Beta

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 10:26 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > I don't remember if a bug got opened for that one or not, basically when > firstboot loads the smolt module fails so it doesn't load. It's > attempting to import a deprecated library that doesn't exist. It doesn't > actually prevent any fu

Re: Fedora Test Day Summary - Confined Users

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 10:10 -0400, Eduard Benes wrote: > Greetings! > > This Tuesday was the "Confined Users" Test Day / Fit&Finish [1] (TD/F&F). > Though we expected higher attendance, the results are really valuable. I'm sorry I wasn't able to help publicise this test day much, it's been a craz

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:25 -0400, Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote: > In this day and age? It's highly unusual for people to only have one. I'd say it's rather more common than it used to be; many people don't use ISP email any more, they just use a gmail or Yahoo! or whatever account for everything.

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 19:56 +0800, Liang Suilong wrote: > To Adam Williamson > > I try to add kernel parameter nomodeset to turn off KMS. After logging > in Gnome and run gnome-terminal, I can scroll up and down my mouse so > smoothly. I do not feel scrolling in the terminal is slow. Thanks for

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:28:36 -0500, King InuYasha wrote: > I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF > binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so > that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into single DVD sets. Sounds

Re: Eternal 'good file hashes' list

On 10/21/2009 07:47 AM, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: Hi. On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:40:46 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: In most cases, you can get that information from the original RPM compared to the system... if you have the RPM :). rpm -Vp Which is pretty much what I want, just pulling the da

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:54 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > Hi all. It has been brought to my attention that my description of my > future vision of rawhide as explained here is much clearer than previous > attempts (including the current "no frozen rawhide" wiki page). [] Actually, the "no froz

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:33 -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > Good point. SCM commit time (or tag time) with a CVS hook would be > awesome as long as the hook was fast enough. Note, I didn't say "CVS", I said "SCM" (: -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca

Re: extracting multiple sources in %setup

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 13:07 +, Mat Booth wrote: > 2009/10/22 Orcan Ogetbil : > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> is there a way to extract multiple sources in a spec files %setup section? > >> > >> Something like: > >> > >> for i in {1..10}; do tar xfz

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:17 +0200, Michal Hlavinka wrote: > > For the slow 2D performance - _how_ slow is it, really? gnome-terminal > > has never been much of a speed demon. Does it get any faster if you boot > > with 'nomodeset' as a kernel parameter? > > > > Hi, > I've installed F-12 beta on

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 13:39 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Tomas Mraz wrote: > > > > We could allow adding numbers after the dist tag in release for this > > purpose. > > That is already allowed, and encouraged, for branch-specific modfications, > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuide

Re: Major reorganization of TeX Live packages

On Thursday 22 October 2009 19:46:29 Jiri Cerny wrote: > Hi Jindrich, > > (sorry for not replaying to the original message, I was reading the > list through archives) > > I was using TeXLive 2009 repository before, without any problem. After > seeing your message, > I followed the instruction >

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

tor 2009-10-22 klockan 12:28 -0500 skrev King InuYasha: > I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary > style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be > something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and > x86-64 into single DVD sets. There's

Re: Major reorganization of TeX Live packages

Hi Jindrich, (sorry for not replaying to the original message, I was reading the list through archives) I was using TeXLive 2009 repository before, without any problem. After seeing your message, I followed the instruction > In case you have an older TL2009 installed on your system from the > te

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

Tomas Mraz wrote: > We could allow adding numbers after the dist tag in release for this > purpose. That is already allowed, and encouraged, for branch-specific modfications, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuidelines#Minor_release_bumps_for_old_branches -- Rex -- fedora-devel

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:02 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 10:55 -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > So to make this a reality, we need to ensure that whatever is in rawhide > > has a *>=* ENVR than anything in the other trees. So I assume that when > > submitting a bodhi update, b

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

King InuYasha wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Kevin Kofler > wrote: King InuYasha wrote: > I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style > ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something t

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:02 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 10:55 -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > So to make this a reality, we need to ensure that whatever is in rawhide > > has a *>=* ENVR than anything in the other trees. So I assume that when > > submitting a bodhi update,

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > King InuYasha wrote: > > I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style > > ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to > > watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into

Re: rawhide report: 20091022 changes

Quentin Armitage wrote: > Error: xorg-x11-proto-devel conflicts with libXxf86dga-devel [snip] > Should the Rawhide report have identified this as a broken dependency? No. The Rawhide report only lists unresolvable dependencies, not conflicts. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing li

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 10:55 -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > So to make this a reality, we need to ensure that whatever is in rawhide > has a *>=* ENVR than anything in the other trees. So I assume that when > submitting a bodhi update, bodhi would check rawhide and ensure that > whatever you were abo

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

King InuYasha wrote: > I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style > ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to > watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into single > DVD sets. > > http://icculus.org/fatelf/ Yuck!!! Ple

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:50 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > Hi all. It has been brought to my attention that my description of my > future vision of rawhide as explained here is much clearer than previous > attempts (including the current "no frozen rawhide" wiki page). So I > felt it prudent to fo

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 19:43 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am 22.10.2009 19:38, schrieb Jon Masters: > > Except, they're not really ELF binaries. ELF doesn't allow you to do > > both at the same time in the headers, so this adds a new header and

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 22.10.2009 19:38, schrieb Jon Masters: > Except, they're not really ELF binaries. ELF doesn't allow you to do > both at the same time in the headers, so this adds a new header and is > essentially an encapsulation for other ELF files. Thus, a kernel

Re: the mass rebuild and i586 rpms?

On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 20:20 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > Hi All, > > I thought with the mass rebuild the i586 rpms were suppose to be gone > but it seems the F-12 repository still has quite a few of them. Are > the old packages that should have been blocked, ones that's that > weren't rebuilt fo

Re: rawhide report: 20091022 changes

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 13:06 +, Rawhide Report wrote: > Compose started at Thu Oct 22 06:15:12 UTC 2009 > > Broken deps for i386 > -- > openscada-visStation-0.6.4-3.fc12.i686 requires > openscada-Special-FlibSYS > > > Updated Pac

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 12:28 -0500, King InuYasha wrote: > http://icculus.org/fatelf/ > > > There is even a proof of concept VM of Ubuntu 9.04 that has both > 32-bit and 64-bit kernels and all the apps compiled as FatELF binaries Except, they're not really ELF binaries. ELF doesn't allow you to

Fedora with Universal Binaries?

Hello, I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into single DVD sets. http://icculus.org/fatelf/ There is even a proof of concept VM o

Re: Unreadable binaries

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:59:00AM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:48 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:04 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > $ ll /usr/libexec/pt_chown > > > -rws--x--x 1 root root 28418 2009-09-28 13:42 /usr/libexec/pt_chown > >

Re: The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:50 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > This is my vision on how to accomplish both a always active development > stream, and a more stable pending release stream, keeping everybody > happy. Want to help? I'll be at FUDCon Toronto discussing roadblocks > to this vision and disc

Re: Status of multiseat feature

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 18:20 +0200, Linus Walleij wrote: > Is anyone actively working on multiseat? > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Multiseat The necessary infrastructure for multiseat is (slowly) being developed in ConsoleKit and gdm branches upstream. -- fedora-devel-list mailing lis

The future of "rawhide" (was [Fwd: Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"])

Hi all. It has been brought to my attention that my description of my future vision of rawhide as explained here is much clearer than previous attempts (including the current "no frozen rawhide" wiki page). So I felt it prudent to forward it along to the devel list for more eyes to look upon it a

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > What kind of checks do you mean? If maintainers want to keep their > packages, they can just change the owner of the package to their new > private account before leaving Red Hat. That assumes the maintainer knows they're leaving Red Hat ahead

Status of multiseat feature

Is anyone actively working on multiseat? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Multiseat Linus Walleij -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Fedora 12 Beta

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 17:08 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 12:31 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I just installed F12 Beta. Here are some thoughts >

Fedora Test Day Summary - Confined Users

Greetings! This Tuesday was the "Confined Users" Test Day / Fit&Finish [1] (TD/F&F). Though we expected higher attendance, the results are really valuable. The most valuable outcome of a test day could be a fact that we should bring more attention/people to using/testing SELinux policy and relate

F-12 Beta Blocker Meeting 2009-10-21 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT) - Recap

#fedora-bugzappers: F-12-Blocker bug review (part#1) Meeting started by jlaska at 15:01:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2009-10-21/fe

Re: Unreadable binaries

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:48 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:04 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > $ ll /usr/libexec/pt_chown > > -rws--x--x 1 root root 28418 2009-09-28 13:42 /usr/libexec/pt_chown > > $ ll /usr/bin/chsh > > -rws--x--x 1 root root 18072 2009-10-05 16:28 /us

Re: Unreadable binaries

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:04 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > $ ll /usr/libexec/pt_chown > -rws--x--x 1 root root 28418 2009-09-28 13:42 /usr/libexec/pt_chown > $ ll /usr/bin/chsh > -rws--x--x 1 root root 18072 2009-10-05 16:28 /usr/bin/chsh > > What is the purpose of making binaries like these

Re: problem with dns

2009/10/22 Giovanni Tirloni : > 2009/10/21 Michał Piotrowski : >> Hi, >> >> This is a problem that touches some of Fedora services. >> >> I've got a network >> >> 192.168.101.0 >> >> 192.168.101.1 - this is my router >> 192.168.101.200 - ozzy - my F11 server >> 192.168.101.100 - dio - my Windows 6

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On 10/21/2009 06:07 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Lyos Gemini Norezel writes: Why not just require a secondary email address? "Require" a secondary email address? Not everyone has one, or wants to hand it over if they do. In this day and age? It's highly unusual for people to only have one.

Re: Upload debug-like-info to Mozilla servers every update

On 10/14/2009 03:40 PM, Colin Walters wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Jan Horak wrote: Mozilla prefers using their own system in this case. It has some pros, like user don't have to download debug packages (which is approx 80MB for each package). Building the symbols for Mozilla is

Re: F12 media-less installer totally broken

> - Put the iso on a ntfs partition > - Put the vmlinuz+initrd.img in F11's grub .. and boot into the installer, > pointing it to install from HDD > - The installer cannot pickup the iso Yeah this probably won't work because of the NTFSness, but what's the exact error message? What does the log o

Orphan Package: system-config-cluster (was Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2)

Hi, On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 11:10 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:11:37AM +0100, Steven Whitehouse wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Jim Parsons left Red Hat a little while back and the only contact > > details I have is his Red Hat email address, which is of course no > > longer va

Re: extracting multiple sources in %setup

2009/10/22 Orcan Ogetbil : > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: >> Hi, >> >> is there a way to extract multiple sources in a spec files %setup section? >> >> Something like: >> >> for i in {1..10}; do tar xfz %(SOURCE$i}; done >> >> Best Regards >> Marcus >> > > %setup -q -c -n

Re: Fedora 12 Blocker Bug Meeting #1 :: 2009-10-23 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT)

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 08:47 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > 2009/10/21 John Poelstra : > > 520750 - PackageKit - ASSIGNED - Software Update windows checks for update > > does not stop .. > > This has been reported by one person (no dupes), and I'm still waiting > for more information. I suspect it

Should installkernel be passing --dracut to new-kernel-pkg?

Hi, /sbin/installkernel doesn't pass --dracut to /sbin/new-kernel-pkg, so a make install from a kernel.org kernel tree tries to invoke /sbin/mkinitrd rather than dracut. Is that intentional? Also, any ideas on why a dracut-generated initramfs image generated for a kernel.org kernel tree would be

Re: Major reorganization of TeX Live packages

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:30:37AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Jindrich Novy wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I would like to announce couple of major changes in the TeX Live 2009 > > repository. > > > > Where? > In the Fedora TeX Live 2009 testing repository, for more info: http://fedoraproject.org

Re: Major reorganization of TeX Live packages

Jindrich Novy wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to announce couple of major changes in the TeX Live 2009 > repository. > Where? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

On 10/22/2009 01:56 PM, Liang Suilong wrote: I try to add kernel parameter nomodeset to turn off KMS. After logging in Gnome and run gnome-terminal, I can scroll up and down my mouse so smoothly. I do not feel scrolling in the terminal is slow. I noticed that performance with KMS is more affect

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

Hi, I've installed F-12 beta on my new laptop with ati radeon hd 4570 graphic card, I was going to file new bug. With kms enabled, everything is really slw, with 'nomodeset' it's much faster. I can't say exactly "how" slow it is, is there anything I can use for measuring? Michal btw, mesa-dri-d

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

To Adam Williamson I try to add kernel parameter nomodeset to turn off KMS. After logging in Gnome and run gnome-terminal, I can scroll up and down my mouse so smoothly. I do not feel scrolling in the terminal is slow. Before doing that, I installed Fedora 12 Beta and upgrade to the latest packag

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

On 10/22/2009 01:46 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: On 10/06/2009 06:29 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 16:27 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: Thanks for bringing this up. I'll create a patch for the scripts generating the livecd to add rd_NO_LUKS to the normal livecd syslinux.cfg entry.

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

On 10/06/2009 06:29 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 16:27 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: Thanks for bringing this up. I'll create a patch for the scripts generating the livecd to add rd_NO_LUKS to the normal livecd syslinux.cfg entry. I already was planning on doing this, but I fo

Major reorganization of TeX Live packages

Hi, I would like to announce couple of major changes in the TeX Live 2009 repository. The main improvements are: * TL2009 now contains virtual provides to resolve dependencies among .sty files. This assures you have a complete set of other styles installed in order to use one. To install a parti

Re: What does it mean " not tagged as an update candidate"?

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:26:06 +0100, "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > > I'm trying to create an update for a new package (mingw32-freeglut, > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528892) in F-12, but I get > the error below: > > $ make update > [...] > Creating a new update for m

Unreadable binaries

$ ll /usr/libexec/pt_chown -rws--x--x 1 root root 28418 2009-09-28 13:42 /usr/libexec/pt_chown $ ll /usr/bin/chsh -rws--x--x 1 root root 18072 2009-10-05 16:28 /usr/bin/chsh What is the purpose of making binaries like these unreadable? Originally I thought it was something to do with them bein

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:10:22AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > * Should we expedite these requests in the future if the email address for > the maintainer is no longer in existence? Yes, please. If the mail address of a maintainers do not work anymore, then their packages should be orphaned

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

Hi, On 21.10.2009 20:10, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: * Should we formalize the unwritten policy for Red Hat maintainers who leave the company and don't want to maintain their packages anymore? * Do we need sanity checks to be sure maintainers who do want to keep their packages do so? I d

Re: Unable to download Fedora 12 beta using jigdo

Hi again, I finally managed to create the image by downloading net install .iso image and providing its install.img to jigdo! Good luck, Hedayat On ۰۹/۱۰/۲۲ 03:55, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: Hi, I'm trying to download F12 beta DVD x86_64 iso using jigdo (I've used jigdo to download previous v

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

On Thursday, 22 October 2009 at 00:07, Tom Lane wrote: > Lyos Gemini Norezel writes: > > Why not just require a secondary email address? > > "Require" a secondary email address? Not everyone has one, or wants > to hand it over if they do. That sounds more like a recipe for driving > maintainers

What does it mean " not tagged as an update candidate"?

I'm trying to create an update for a new package (mingw32-freeglut, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528892) in F-12, but I get the error below: $ make update [...] Creating a new update for mingw32-freeglut-2.6.0-0.1.rc1.fc12 mingw32-freeglut-2.6.0-0.1.rc1.fc12 not tagged as

Re: extracting multiple sources in %setup

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Hi, > > is there a way to extract multiple sources in a spec files %setup section? > > Something like: > > for i in {1..10}; do tar xfz %(SOURCE$i}; done > > Best Regards > Marcus > %setup -q -c -n %{name} -a 0 -a 1 -a 2 -a 3 -a 4 -a 5 -a 6

Re: extracting multiple sources in %setup

Le Jeu 22 octobre 2009 09:46, Marcus Moeller a écrit : > is there a way to extract multiple sources in a spec files %setup section? > > Something like: > > for i in {1..10}; do tar xfz %(SOURCE$i}; done If you have multiple sources that's usually a sign you're doing something wrong. It is very

Re: Fedora 12 Blocker Bug Meeting #1 :: 2009-10-23 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT)

2009/10/21 John Poelstra : > 520750 - PackageKit - ASSIGNED  - Software Update windows checks for update > does not stop .. This has been reported by one person (no dupes), and I'm still waiting for more information. I suspect it's actually a hardware problem or file-system corruption on the repor

extracting multiple sources in %setup

Hi, is there a way to extract multiple sources in a spec files %setup section? Something like: for i in {1..10}; do tar xfz %(SOURCE$i}; done Best Regards Marcus -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Fedora 12 Beta

Dne 21.10.2009 23:35, Adam Williamson napsal(a): >> 4 - F12 boots really slow on my laptop >> http://www.stardust.webpages.pl/files/tmp/bootchart.png something >> wrong is happening while udev loading I have filed a bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528312 ... if you run udevadm moni

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

On Wednesday 21 October 2009 23:27:31 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 15:16 +0800, Liang Suilong wrote: > > Today I upgrade my Fedora to Fedora 12 Beta, It looks very well. But I > > found ATi display driver does not run well. > > > > > > My display card is Sapphire HD3650 with 256MB

Fwd: Power Managemet Testday 22. Oct 2009

Original Message Subject:Power Managemet Testday 22. Oct 2009 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:04:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Jan Scotka To: Marcela Maslanova Hi folks, Today 2009-10-22 is planned next Power Management Test Day. We will be glad to see you all there. For m