F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start

2009-12-08 Thread Pekka Savola
Hi, On my laptop, after F12 updates-testing update today, after reboot F logo shows but then the screen goes dark and starts flickering between various shades of dark (changing modes?) with intel graphics chipset (GM965/GL960). I'm only using 1024x768 resolution. Nomodeset or using a

Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start

2009-12-08 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 10:33 +0200, Pekka Savola wrote: Hi, On my laptop, after F12 updates-testing update today, after reboot F logo shows but then the screen goes dark and starts flickering between various shades of dark (changing modes?) with intel graphics chipset (GM965/GL960). I'm

Re: Fedora release criteria completely revised

2009-12-08 Thread Andy Green
On 12/07/09 23:55, Somebody in the thread at some point said: Hi - these pages, not nice-to-haves. You must be able to commit to the idea that, if any criterion on the page is not met, we would slip the release in question. I think it's great you guys are looking to increase

orphaned packages

2009-12-08 Thread पराग़
Hi, I have orphaned 2 packages and have plans to retire them from rawhide. 1) Since last 3 years I am the maintainer for scanbuttond package. I have one RFE bug open for this package but didn't get time to work on it as I have no scanner with me to work on it. This package has not seen any

Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-08 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
I did a clean install of Fedora 12 and realized that pavucontrol was not installed by default. I have two sound cards and I only got sound when I manually installed pavucontrol and used it. Any reason? Thanks. -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-08 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 09:51:55AM -0200, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: I did a clean install of Fedora 12 and realized that pavucontrol was not installed by default. I have two sound cards and I only got sound when I manually installed pavucontrol and used it. Any reason? pavucontrol is

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.8.0-beta1 about to hit rawhide

2009-12-08 Thread Mat Booth
2009/12/8 Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org: On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Mat Booth wrote: 2009/12/7 Panu Matilainen pmati...@redhat.com: Now that FESCo has approved new major RPM version for F-13 and the public beta is officially out... it's going to hit rawhide in a few hours. I remember

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.8.0-beta1 about to hit rawhide

2009-12-08 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
2009/12/8 Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org: On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Mat Booth wrote: 2009/12/7 Panu Matilainen pmati...@redhat.com: Now that FESCo has approved new major RPM version for F-13 and the public beta is officially out... it's going to hit rawhide in a few hours. I

Re: orphaning dblatex

2009-12-08 Thread Jon Ciesla
Jon Ciesla wrote: Neal Becker wrote: I no longer wish to maintain dblatex. Any takers? I can if none of the co-maintainers want it. -J Ping? -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Fedora release criteria completely revised

2009-12-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: During FUDCon, we've been working on revising the Fedora release criteria. John Poelstra had already fleshed out a structure and much of the final content, and we've been revising and tweaking it in conjunction with QA (myself, Will Woods and James Laska), release

Re: Fedora release criteria completely revised

2009-12-08 Thread Colin Walters
Hi Adam, Looks really great in general! One specific comment, for Final 9; I think we need a more specific definition of and subsequent login. Does that mean that you just type your username/password and look at the default desktop? Are we scoping in any specific apps (firefox?) Under any

Re: Deprecation of LAM/MPI?

2009-12-08 Thread Doug Ledford
On 12/07/2009 06:32 PM, Jussi Lehtola wrote: Hi, First of all, I'm not the maintainer of LAM, but since Doug seems to be busy with other things I took the liberty of taking things into my own hands: I really would like everything to confer to the MPI guidelines in Fedora 13, but the

Re: Deprecation of LAM/MPI?

2009-12-08 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 10:44:14AM -0500, Doug Ledford wrote: There has been no public response to this, and Jussi has indicated in the referenced bugzilla that at least one former lam board member is advocating for the package's removal. The current plan is to block lam from rawhide. If

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-12-08 Thread Rallias UberNerd
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:39:16 -0600, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Bill McGonigle wrote: Are you installing Fedora on the computer you're using now? [YES] [NO] YES - is any sort of check even possible if the user is running 32-bit on 64-bit? Yes, if the CPU has the lm

Re: Vote for the bug (was Re: Local users get to play root?)

2009-12-08 Thread Rallias UberNerd
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:48:45 -0600, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: On Nov 19, 2009, at 13:51, Jeff Garzik jgar...@pobox.com wrote: Note to all... Please add your vote to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=534047 (Active local console users get to install

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.8.0-beta1 about to hit rawhide

2009-12-08 Thread Mat Booth
2009/12/8 Alexander Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com: 2009/12/8 Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org: On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Mat Booth wrote: 2009/12/7 Panu Matilainen pmati...@redhat.com: Now that FESCo has approved new major RPM version for F-13 and the public beta is officially out...

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-12-08 Thread drago01
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Rallias UberNerd robinstar1...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:39:16 -0600, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Bill McGonigle wrote: Are you installing Fedora on the computer you're using now? [YES]  [NO]  YES - is any sort of check even

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-12-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/08/2009 06:41 PM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Rallias UberNerd robinstar1...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:39:16 -0600, Kevin Koflerkevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Bill McGonigle wrote: Are you installing Fedora on the computer you're using now? [YES] [NO]

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-12-08 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: That's one side, the other side is: * Larger demands on RAM (x86_64 is more demanding on memory  requirements). Even if it were a full doubling (which is the absolute worst case possible), it would only be pushing the

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-08 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 12:59 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 09:51:55AM -0200, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: I did a clean install of Fedora 12 and realized that pavucontrol was not installed by default. I have two sound cards and I only got sound when I manually installed

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-12-08 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 18:41 +0100, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Rallias UberNerd But wouldn't it be better to use 32 bit when less then 4 GB of ram is present? no, using x86_64 means more registers, sse2 as default floating point instruction set, better calling

Re: Deprecation of LAM/MPI?

2009-12-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jussi Lehtola wrote: I really would like everything to confer to the MPI guidelines in Fedora 13, but the problem is that so far no-one has volunteered to rework the LAM/MPI package to conform to the new guidelines [1]. IMHO LAM/MPI could be safely pulled out from Fedora 13, since it was

Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start

2009-12-08 Thread Dave Airlie
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 01:50 -0800, Dan Williams wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 10:33 +0200, Pekka Savola wrote: Hi, On my laptop, after F12 updates-testing update today, after reboot F logo shows but then the screen goes dark and starts flickering between various shades of dark

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-12-08 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Tuesday 08 December 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: * More packages (rpms) to cope with. Only if you pollute your system with 32-bit multilibs. A pure x86_64 system doesn't have any more packages than a 32-bit one. Fedora x86_64 repos do however carry ix86 packages

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-12-08 Thread shmuel siegel
Kevin Kofler wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: * More packages (rpms) to cope with. Only if you pollute your system with 32-bit multilibs. A pure x86_64 system doesn't have any more packages than a 32-bit one. We don't even install multilibs by default anymore. Kevin Kofler

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-08 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 14:05 -0500, Jon Masters wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 12:59 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 09:51:55AM -0200, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: I did a clean install of Fedora 12 and realized that pavucontrol was not installed by default. I have two sound

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-12-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/08/2009 09:26 PM, Ville Skyttä wrote: On Tuesday 08 December 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: * More packages (rpms) to cope with. Only if you pollute your system with 32-bit multilibs. A pure x86_64 system doesn't have any more packages than a 32-bit one. Fedora

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-08 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Jon Masters wrote: The new gnome-volume-control is so cut-down it's not useful to me. In the quest to be more Mac-like in removing mixer controls (and not even having any obvious advanced mode), I now have a choice of no audio or having full volume LFE output

File rt-3.8.6.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2009-12-08 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for rt3: 522f93e39c6978ba9f49efa00eb5621e rt-3.8.6.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

File rt-3.6.10.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by xavierb

2009-12-08 Thread Xavier Bachelot
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for rt3: ce58755cb2e91ec40c05fd4b3cb50135 rt-3.6.10.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

[Bug 539083] FTBFS perl-IPC-Run-0.84-1.fc12

2009-12-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539083 Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 539016] FTBFS perl-POE-1.269-1.fc12

2009-12-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539016 Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com changed: What|Removed |Added

File HTML-FormFu-0.05004.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2009-12-08 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-HTML-FormFu: 19d514aefafe08a735db0f0bf8d8647d HTML-FormFu-0.05004.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

rpms/perl-HTML-FormFu/devel .cvsignore, 1.7, 1.8 perl-HTML-FormFu.spec, 1.11, 1.12 sources, 1.7, 1.8

2009-12-08 Thread Iain Arnell
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rpms/perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu/devel .cvsignore, 1.5, 1.6 perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu.spec, 1.7, 1.8 sources, 1.5, 1.6

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2009-12-08 Thread Iain Arnell
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