RE: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Otto Haliburton
-Original Message- From: fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of nodata Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 01:01 To: Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Re: packages requiring me to reboot... Am 2009-12-17

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-17 Thread Christof Damian
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 08:19, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 12/17/2009 12:46 PM, Christof Damian wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 19:58, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: pavucontrol currently crashes (and pulseaudio) for me on one machine and I need this

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/17/2009 03:20 PM, Christof Damian wrote: I just find it annoying that some people seem to have File a bug. in their signature, when one should assume that on fedora-devel everyone would file a bug for valid problems. It might and should be different on fedora or the forums. They do

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Richard Hughes
2009/12/16 Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca: So basically, PK is designed for the non-experienced users, as such everything it does is dumbed down, and experienced users should just ignore it, using other tools to keep their system up to date. See

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Eelko Berkenpies
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Otto Haliburton ottohalibur...@tx.rr.com wrote: - Original Message - From: nodata l...@nodata.co.uk To: Development discussions related to Fedora fedora-devel-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:29 AM Subject: Re: packages requiring

Re: packages requiring me to reboot - semi-off -topic response

2009-12-17 Thread David Timms
On 12/17/2009 08:38 AM, Jon Masters wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 16:30 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: too. My own preference would be a more discriminating dialog that offers three possibilities: 'do nothing', 'bounce the service/application' and 'reboot'. Yup, +1 Bounce the application

Re: Fedora update submission page broken for multiple packages

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:41:22 -0500, Tom wrote: Orcan Ogetbil writes: If there is a way to file an update (same version and release except the disttag) to multiple branches, please let me know. Usually it works: just add all the package NVRs to the same update submission. (That's what

rawhide report: 20091217 changes

2009-12-17 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Dec 17 08:15:09 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 -- 1:abiword-2.8.1-2.fc13.i686 requires libwv-1.2.so.3 anjal-0.1.0-1.fc13.i686 requires libevolution-mail-shared.so.0 anjal-0.1.0-1.fc13.i686

RE: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Otto Haliburton
-Original Message- From: fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Eelko Berkenpies Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 05:09 To: Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Re: packages requiring me to reboot... On

Re: Fedora update submission page broken for multiple packages

2009-12-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 01:35:44PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:41:22 -0500, Tom wrote: Orcan Ogetbil writes: If there is a way to file an update (same version and release except the disttag) to multiple branches, please let me know. Usually it works: just

autofs not installed by default

2009-12-17 Thread Todd Volkert
Hi all, The past few Fedora installs, I've specified a NIS server during the Anaconda installation so I don't have to create any local user accounts. However, once installation is complete, I can't log into any NIS accounts because autofs insn't installed, causing the user accounts' home folders

Offline for one month or more

2009-12-17 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
Hello there, I'm currently relocating to another country and will be fedora-offline for a while, probably one month (probably be on and off). If my packages require immediate actions for any reason, please do the necessary in my place.

Re: autofs not installed by default

2009-12-17 Thread Bill Nottingham
Todd Volkert (tvolk...@gmail.com) said: The past few Fedora installs, I've specified a NIS server during the Anaconda installation so I don't have to create any local user accounts. However, once installation is complete, I can't log into any NIS accounts because autofs insn't installed,

Election results for FAmSCo, FESCo coming shortly

2009-12-17 Thread Paul W. Frields
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Our election coordinator, Nigel Jones, was too swamped today to process all of the election results, but will be doing so later today (UTC time). Thanks for your patience, and thanks to Nigel for all his work coordinating the voting system and

Re: safe way to standby sata hdd?

2009-12-17 Thread Eric Sandeen
Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2009/12/16 Eric Sandeen sand...@redhat.com: Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, I've got a home database/symfony env/etc../file server. It's based on Intel D945GCLF2D Atom board. I've got a two hard drives WD Green Power connected through Sata. First drive has / and /home

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 08:50 +, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/12/15 Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org: This exists? Can you point me to the code? I only finished this just this morning. It's just been pushed to git master. You want to see this commit

Re: autofs not installed by default

2009-12-17 Thread Todd Volkert
Hm - perhaps it was as part of the first boot, post-anaconda. Basically, it was when I was asked to create a user account. I selected use network login (paraphrasing) instead of creating a local account. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.comwrote: Todd Volkert

Re: review request - rasmol, Molecular Graphics Visualization Tool

2009-12-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/24/2009 10:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: But I dunno if there's a policy requirement that you should anyway. FWIW, the policy says: If a package contains a GUI application, then it needs to also include a properly installed .desktop file. For the purposes of these guidelines, a GUI

rpm cpio error: prelink and SBCL

2009-12-17 Thread Jerry James
I'm trying to package up a Common Lisp application that is built with SBCL. Near the end of the rpmbuild run, I see this right before the list of Provides: prelink: /home/jamesjer/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/pvs-sbcl-4.2-2.svn20091008.fc12.x86_64/usr/lib64/pvs/bin/ix86_64-Linux/runtime/pvs-sbclisp:

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:51 AM, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:  How do you plan on restarting firefox? Or you just planning to kill() and get the user to restart? Trying to send a close button event to the app's windows is probably our best short-term approach; slightly longer

Re: rpm cpio error: prelink and SBCL

2009-12-17 Thread yersinia
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com wrote: Is that due to prelink?  If so, what is broken?  SBCL, because it You probably have a prelinked file in BUILD ROOT (objdump -s file | grep prelink) . Try to get rid of this in %install with prelink -u Regards --

Review swaps

2009-12-17 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, Anyone interested in swapping a couple of package reviews? mx https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538465 moblin-app-installer https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546301 Regards, Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 10:51 -0500, James Antill wrote: The UI isn't very pretty at the moment (it just fails with an update error) but I'll work on something a little bit more user friendly. How do you plan on restarting firefox? Or you just planning to kill() and get the user to

Re: rpm cpio error: prelink and SBCL

2009-12-17 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:12 AM, yersinia yersinia.spi...@gmail.com wrote: You probably have a prelinked file in BUILD ROOT (objdump -s file | grep prelink) . Try to get rid of this in %install with prelink -u Oh ho! The sbcl executable has already been prelinked. When save-lisp-and-die is

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread nodata
Am 2009-12-17 10:36, schrieb Otto Haliburton: -Original Message- From: fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of nodata Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 01:01 To: Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Re: packages

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 12/17/2009 01:50 PM, nodata wrote: yep. but all of that assumes I know what I am doing, and the people that this is aimed at don't. windows requires fewer reboots now. +1, and remember that they have an advantage right off the bat: - much fewer subsystems (Windows and a couple of tiny

Re: Useless setroubleshoot alerts

2009-12-17 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 01:34:45PM +, Christopher Brown wrote: SELinux was quite good on F11 and F12. Now it would seem it is starting to regress again. Your expectations are too high if you think rawhide shouldn't have regressions. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: 190 packages with .la file(s)

2009-12-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/30/2009 08:42 AM, Pierre-Yves wrote: gambas2-2.18.0-1.fc12.src.rpm Gambas is... special. It needs these .la files to function. ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

RE: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Otto Haliburton
-Original Message- From: fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Przemek Klosowski Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 13:05 To: fedora-devel-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: packages requiring me to reboot... On 12/17/2009

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Ewan Mac Mahon
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:05:15PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:51 AM, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:  How do you plan on restarting firefox? Or you just planning to kill() and get the user to restart? Trying to send a close button event to the

Re: rpm cpio error: prelink and SBCL

2009-12-17 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com wrote: So this is going to hit anybody who tries to package up an executable produced by SBCL.  Perhaps this should be noted on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Lisp. And it's even worse than I thought: prelink -u

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Ewan Mac Mahon e...@macmahon.me.uk wrote: That would fail pretty badly in the case of Firefox with multiple windows open. True; there's nothing stopping us from adding something Firefox-specific as a short term measure, since how it does session saving is

Re: rpm cpio error: prelink and SBCL

2009-12-17 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 01:48:20PM -0700, Jerry James wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com wrote: So this is going to hit anybody who tries to package up an executable produced by SBCL.  Perhaps this should be noted on

Electric Fence - still reliable?

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
Fedora 12 with LD_PRELOAD=libefence.so.0.0 EF_ALLOW_MALLOC_0=1, what is more likely that these are false positives or real bugs? --- $ gnome-terminal Electric Fence 2.2.2 Copyright (C) 1987-1999 Bruce Perens br...@perens.com Segmentation fault (core dumped) == in ORBit corba-any.c $ geeqie

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread nodata
Am 2009-12-17 15:02, schrieb Otto Haliburton: -Original Message- From: fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Eelko Berkenpies Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 05:09 To: Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Re:

Re: rpm cpio error: prelink and SBCL

2009-12-17 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: You need to first prelink -u on a copy of the program, then run it and let it dump itself, then package it up. Ah, thanks. I'd actually argue that such packaging is broken anyway, because you didn't compile the binary you

RE: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Otto Haliburton
-Original Message- From: fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of nodata Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 15:09 To: Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Re: packages requiring me to reboot... Am 2009-12-17

RE: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Otto Haliburton
-Original Message- From: fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of nodata Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 15:09 To: Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Re: packages requiring me to reboot... Am 2009-12-17

Re: Review swaps

2009-12-17 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
2009/12/17, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: Anyone interested in swapping a couple of package reviews? I currently try to review 2 of your previous review request. you should finish them first -- Josephine Fine Tannhäuser 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686.PAE -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 22:08 +0100, nodata wrote: Here is my point: Windows requires a reboot less often than Linux. Argue all you want, it's true. It's entirely false, because Linux *never* requires a reboot. Fedora (not Linux, you are generalizing too far) *advises* reboots, it never

Re: 190 packages with .la file(s)

2009-12-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 30.11.2009, 14:42 +0100 schrieb Pierre-Yves: If I run: for i in $(repoquery --disablerepo=rpmfusion\* -f *.la --qf=%{name}.%{arch} | grep x86_64 | sort | uniq); do repoquery -s $i; done | sort | uniq exo-0.3.105-1.fc12.src.rpm fixed gtkglextmm-1.2.0-10.fc12.src.rpm I

Outage Notification - 2009-12-18 02:00 UTC

2009-12-17 Thread Mike McGrath
There will be an outage starting at 2009-12-18 02:00 UTC, which will last approximately 2 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-12-18 02:00 UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem CVS / Source Control

Re: Outage Notification - 2009-12-19 02:00 UTC

2009-12-17 Thread Mike McGrath
Sorry everyone, I was off by a day. I've updated it. -Mike On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Mike McGrath wrote: There will be an outage starting at 2009-12-19 02:00 UTC, which will last approximately 2 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-17 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 19:21 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: git://publictest5.fedoraproject.org/git/pkgs/package eg if you wished to clone the kernel, you'd type: git clone git://publictest5.fedoraproject.org/git/pkgs/kernel Just an FYI, the hostname (and path) changed slightly. git clone

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-17 Thread Adam Miller
+1 to Adam W because I'm an ultra git neophyte (and a CVS one for that matter) but the current make file automation essentially removes that as an issue. I'm not saying I'm against learning git if need be, but I agree that it would be an unfortunate regression. -Adam (From Android - CM) On Dec

File Test-Script-1.07.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2009-12-17 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Test-Script: f6b5baa6403cd24dac7f023e0ea22384 Test-Script-1.07.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

rpms/perl-Test-Script/F-11 .cvsignore, 1.4, 1.5 perl-Test-Script.spec, 1.6, 1.7 sources, 1.4, 1.5

2009-12-17 Thread corsepiu
Author: corsepiu Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Test-Script/F-11 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16525/F-11 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Test-Script.spec sources Log Message: * Tue Dec 15 2009 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 1.07-1 - Upstream update. -

rpms/perl-Test-Script/devel .cvsignore, 1.4, 1.5 perl-Test-Script.spec, 1.8, 1.9 sources, 1.4, 1.5

2009-12-17 Thread corsepiu
Author: corsepiu Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Test-Script/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16525/devel Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Test-Script.spec sources Log Message: * Tue Dec 15 2009 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 1.07-1 - Upstream update.

File File-Find-Rule-0.32.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2009-12-17 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-File-Find-Rule: 1b43810c6b8fd4ee5cee8046e1e05ff4 File-Find-Rule-0.32.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

rpms/perl-File-Find-Rule/F-12 .cvsignore, 1.4, 1.5 perl-File-Find-Rule.spec, 1.12, 1.13 sources, 1.4, 1.5

2009-12-17 Thread corsepiu
Author: corsepiu Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-File-Find-Rule/F-12 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv12924/F-12 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-File-Find-Rule.spec sources Log Message: * Mon Dec 14 2009 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 0.32-1 - Upstream

rpms/perl-File-Find-Rule/F-11 .cvsignore, 1.4, 1.5 perl-File-Find-Rule.spec, 1.11, 1.12 sources, 1.4, 1.5

2009-12-17 Thread corsepiu
Author: corsepiu Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-File-Find-Rule/F-11 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv12924/F-11 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-File-Find-Rule.spec sources Log Message: * Mon Dec 14 2009 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 0.32-1 - Upstream

rpms/perl-File-Find-Rule/devel .cvsignore, 1.4, 1.5 perl-File-Find-Rule.spec, 1.13, 1.14 sources, 1.4, 1.5

2009-12-17 Thread corsepiu
Author: corsepiu Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-File-Find-Rule/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv12924/devel Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-File-Find-Rule.spec sources Log Message: * Mon Dec 14 2009 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 0.32-1 - Upstream

[Bug 237421] Bad cpuTime retrieved from Sys::Virt::Domain-get_info

2009-12-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 247476] Changed upstream...

2009-12-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 456019] Can we have libpTk.a built shared within perl-Tk ?

2009-12-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 461350] cpanspec nearly always misses the BuildRequires: perl(Test::More)

2009-12-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 473407] Every invocation of svk generates the same warning.

2009-12-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 479101] SElinux and Kwiki: not done yet

2009-12-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 483772] SVK fails because it cannot find Time/Progress.pm

2009-12-17 Thread bugzilla
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