Re: Password resets

2009-03-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: So holy crap does the planet hate it when you ask people to reset their passwords.  In particular though, they hated the following: 1. Kittens Personally I thought people were having kittens for all the 'problems'

Re: change request

2009-03-11 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Gianluca Varisco wrote: Mike McGrath wrote: diff --git a/configs/web/translate.fedoraproject.org/transifex.conf b/configs/web/translate.fedoraproject.org/transife index 940b314..43292bf 100644 --- a/configs/web/translate.fedoraproject.org/transifex.conf +++

Re: change request

2009-03-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Mike McGrath wrote: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Gianluca Varisco wrote: Mike McGrath wrote: diff --git a/configs/web/translate.fedoraproject.org/transifex.conf b/configs/web/translate.fedoraproject.org/transife index 940b314..43292bf 100644 ---

Re: Password resets

2009-03-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Mike McGrath wrote: So holy crap does the planet hate it when you ask people to reset their passwords. In particular though, they hated the following: 1. Kittens 2. Password Expiration is confusing and does not imply account expiration. Some may have ignored the warning because they did

Re: Password resets

2009-03-11 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: 5. Password resets could be introducing less secure passwords. This one's hard for me to quantify. If you use a strong password the first time, what's the likelihood that each reset will bring some number of users to use an insecure password?

Re: Password resets

2009-03-11 Thread Mike Bonnet
Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Mike McGrath wrote: So holy crap does the planet hate it when you ask people to reset their passwords. In particular though, they hated the following: 1. Kittens 2. Password Expiration is confusing and does not imply account expiration. Some may have ignored the

Re: Password resets

2009-03-11 Thread Lyos Gemini Norezel
Mike McGrath wrote: I think we shouldn't go too far out of our way for people that can't follow directions. Harsh? Yes, but what we asked of people was incredibly trivial. I'd be fine with asking people to log in but I'd think we'll find lots of people find that confusing. Logging in and

Re: Password resets

2009-03-11 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote: Mike McGrath wrote: I think we shouldn't go too far out of our way for people that can't follow directions. Harsh? Yes, but what we asked of people was incredibly trivial. I'd be fine with asking people to log in but I'd think we'll find

Re: Password resets

2009-03-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Mike McGrath wrote: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: 5. Password resets could be introducing less secure passwords. This one's hard for me to quantify. If you use a strong password the first time, what's the likelihood that each reset will bring some number of users to use an

Re: Password resets

2009-03-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Mike McGrath wrote: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote: the proper way)... the only reason for having people login will be immediately obvious via a properly worded email (ie., Due to inactivity on your FAS account, your account will be terminated in 1 month, unless the

Re: Password resets

2009-03-11 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Mike McGrath wrote: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote: the proper way)... the only reason for having people login will be immediately obvious via a properly worded email (ie., Due to inactivity on your FAS account, your

Re: Password resets

2009-03-11 Thread Lyos Gemini Norezel
Mike McGrath wrote: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote: Mike McGrath wrote: I think we shouldn't go too far out of our way for people that can't follow directions. Harsh? Yes, but what we asked of people was incredibly trivial. I'd be fine with asking people to log in

Re: Password resets

2009-03-11 Thread Lyos Gemini Norezel
Mike McGrath wrote: I discovered long ago there's no glory in what we do. Gotta fight the good fight just because it's there. There's a truism I wish I'd never heard. It's not my idea of security, it's my idea of a task. I just want some concrete thing that has a begining, middle,

sanity request

2009-03-11 Thread Ian Weller
How is it that we can have fifty threads in this list with the subject line as change request and no additional information? I'm not the one who has to deal with them and it drives me insane, so I'm not sure how others can work with it -- especially those unfortunate enough to not have message

Re: change request

2009-03-11 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-03-11 09:53:24 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Gianluca Varisco wrote: Mike McGrath wrote: diff --git a/configs/web/translate.fedoraproject.org/transifex.conf b/configs/web/translate.fedoraproject.org/transife index 940b314..43292bf 100644 ---

Re: sanity request

2009-03-11 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Ian Weller wrote: How is it that we can have fifty threads in this list with the subject line as change request and no additional information? I'm not the one who has to deal with them and it drives me insane, so I'm not sure how others can work with it -- especially

RE: Password resets

2009-03-11 Thread Simon Birtwistle
I'm coming to this discussion without much background, so apologies if I am missing something, but from what I gather all you're trying to do is check for active contributors? If so, why not send an email along the following lines instead of requiring password resets? According to our records

Re: sanity request

2009-03-11 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 15:32 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: In other words please describe your change requests in the subject line to help with differentiation. Thanks, The Non-Management :) FWIW, these only happen during a change freeze and aren't really list stuff but more workflow

Re: sanity request

2009-03-11 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 15:32 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: In other words please describe your change requests in the subject line to help with differentiation. Thanks, The Non-Management :) FWIW, these only happen during a change freeze and

Re: sanity request

2009-03-11 Thread Dimitris Glezos
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: One thing I think we could do is do more of what mmcgrath just did, posting the proposed change as a diff.  As long as it isn't sensitive info, we can just use the git send-email

Change request - Using git send-email

2009-03-11 Thread Jesse Keating
Here is a message from git send-email. To get here, I used: $ git commit -a Created commit cb85f54: Disable rawhide. 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) $ git format-patch HEAD^ 0001-Disable-rawhide.patch $ git send-email --compose --to Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com

[PATCH] Disable rawhide.

2009-03-11 Thread Jesse Keating
From: Jesse Keating jkeat...@puppet1.fedora.phx.redhat.com This is a test commit for email send testing --- configs/build/rawhide |3 ++- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/configs/build/rawhide b/configs/build/rawhide index 2bdaa57..4c7f0b8 100644 ---

[PATCH] Add a git-email package class

2009-03-11 Thread Jesse Keating
--- manifests/services/packages.pp |6 ++ 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/manifests/services/packages.pp b/manifests/services/packages.pp index bd3f667..8cd7ed7 100644 --- a/manifests/services/packages.pp +++ b/manifests/services/packages.pp @@ -193,6

Change Request - Puppetize git(-email) being on puppet systems

2009-03-11 Thread Jesse Keating
I already installed git-email on puppet1, but this puts it in puppet itself. I also noticed that git wasn't puppetized for puppet1 either. -- Jes ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com

[PATCH] Make sure git and git-email are installed on puppet systems

2009-03-11 Thread Jesse Keating
--- manifests/servergroups/puppet.pp |2 ++ 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/manifests/servergroups/puppet.pp b/manifests/servergroups/puppet.pp index d054fef..c393f9a 100644 --- a/manifests/servergroups/puppet.pp +++ b/manifests/servergroups/puppet.pp @@ -13,6