Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-12-01 Thread Jesse Keating
On Friday 01 December 2006 18:58, David D. Eisenstein wrote: > > I'm involved in discussions with RH management this week, and probably > > next week. > > Any chance that others involved with Fedora Legacy in addition to you > might be able to be involved in those discussions, Jesse? Unfortunately

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-12-01 Thread David D. Eisenstein
Jesse Keating wrote: On Thursday 30 November 2006 10:32, Matthew Miller wrote: Everyone's pretty much talking like this is a done deal. Any idea when an official decision will be made? I'm involved in discussions with RH management this week, and probably next week. Any chance that others

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 11/30/06, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: > Unfortunately I will have to be migrating our last Fedora servers > over to CentOS even sooner now... I take it, then, that extending Fedora's (supported) life-cycle to 13+ mos isn't sufficient for your needs?

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Op 30-nov-2006, om 17:11 heeft Matthew Miller het volgende geschreven: On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 04:40:55PM +0100, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: Not for that couple of FC3 machines my clients have running. Or am I misunderstanding the 13 months of support somehow? FC3 was released on November

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 04:40:55PM +0100, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: > Not for that couple of FC3 machines my clients have running. Or am I > misunderstanding the 13 months of support somehow? FC3 was released > on November 8 2004. Also, FC4 (I don't have any FC4 machines) was > released

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Rex Dieter wrote: Unfortunately I will have to be migrating our last Fedora servers over to CentOS even sooner now... I take it, then, that extending Fedora's (supported) life-cycle to 13+ mos isn't sufficient for your needs? Not for that couple of FC3 machines my clients have running. Or

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 10:35:44AM -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: > > Everyone's pretty much talking like this is a done deal. Any idea when an > > official decision will be made? > I'm involved in discussions with RH management this week, and probably next > week. Okay, thanks for the update. --

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thursday 30 November 2006 10:32, Matthew Miller wrote: > Everyone's pretty much talking like this is a done deal. Any idea when an > official decision will be made? I'm involved in discussions with RH management this week, and probably next week. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 08:12:53AM -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: > That honestly depends on if releasing core to the outside world gets the > approval of Red Hat management. We hope it does, and if it does (and if > Legacy and FESCO agrees) than the 13month will fall into effect. So it > hasn't

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 09:11:52AM -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > > Unfortunately I will have to be migrating our last Fedora servers > > over to CentOS even sooner now... > I take it, then, that extending Fedora's (supported) life-cycle to 13+ mos > isn't sufficient for your needs? That's the case he

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Tony Molloy
On Thursday 30 November 2006 14:59, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: > > I think it's sad Fedora Legacy seems to be ending a little > prematurely, but I totally understand that the people that were > carrying this dying beast have decided to just put it down and let it > be. Unfortunately I will hav

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Rex Dieter
Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: > Unfortunately I will have to be migrating our last Fedora servers > over to CentOS even sooner now... I take it, then, that extending Fedora's (supported) life-cycle to 13+ mos isn't sufficient for your needs? -- Rex -- fedora-legacy-list mailing list fedora-le

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Axel Thimm wrote: If some statement from legacy is needed about FC3/FC4 before that decision is made (which IMHO is needed), how about something along a heading of "Fedora Legacy is ending its current support model working towards direct involvement in maintenance of upcoming Fedora releas

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Axel Thimm
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 08:12:53AM -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thursday 30 November 2006 06:55, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Is the 13-month lifespan for Core (i.e. "merged Legacy") accepted as > > official? > > > That honestly depends on if releasing core to the outside world gets the > appro

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thursday 30 November 2006 06:55, Matthew Miller wrote: > Is the 13-month lifespan for Core (i.e. "merged Legacy") accepted as > official? That honestly depends on if releasing core to the outside world gets the approval of Red Hat management. We hope it does, and if it does (and if Legacy a

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 10:12:11PM -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: > > Okay, what more do we need to make it official? > Webpage changes to note our wrapup, reporting to the Fedora Board regarding > our project status, postings to fedora-announce-list, and then watching the > flames roll in. Is the

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 21:58, Matthew Miller wrote: > Okay, what more do we need to make it official? Webpage changes to note our wrapup, reporting to the Fedora Board regarding our project status, postings to fedora-announce-list, and then watching the flames roll in. -- Jesse Keating

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 09:54:31PM -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: > I think this would be best. Legacy was an experiment that worked for a > period > of time and has overtime worked less and less. Interest has waned as well as > willingness to participate. Okay, what more do we need to make it o

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 21:37, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 03:33:59AM +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > > I would rephrase it in a positive way: Legacy is merged with Core and > > Extras under one umbrella redefining EOL time marks. E.g. there is a > > shorter total lifespan, but

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 03:33:59AM +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > I would rephrase it in a positive way: Legacy is merged with Core and > Extras under one umbrella redefining EOL time marks. E.g. there is a > shorter total lifespan, but during that lifespan there is more > manpower assigned to get time

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread Axel Thimm
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 02:29:28PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 01:26:12PM -0600, David Eisenstein wrote: > > I wish I could do more. But really, I don't know that that wish is > > realistic. Does anyone else wish more could be done? Or do we just kill > > the > > proj

RE: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread Russ Lavoie
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of the Fedora Legacy Project Subject: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates Benjamin Smith wrote: > On Saturday 18 November 2006 01:20, Florian La Roche wrote: > >>Interest in Fedora Legacy has slowed down. You can find some >>FC4 updates at http://www.

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 01:26:12PM -0600, David Eisenstein wrote: > I wish I could do more. But really, I don't know that that wish is > realistic. Does anyone else wish more could be done? Or do we just kill the > project? Well, as I've said, I wish more could be done, but I can't really do it

nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread David Eisenstein
Benjamin Smith wrote: > On Saturday 18 November 2006 01:20, Florian La Roche wrote: > >>Interest in Fedora Legacy has slowed down. You can find some >>FC4 updates at http://www.jur-linux.org/rpms/fc-updates/4/ , >>but some updates will probably also soon show up at >>http://fedoralegacy.org/ > >