Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance

2009-06-13 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 21:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 05:43 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: and no, glxgears is not a benchmark! Indeed, glxgears really sucks as as a benchmark, Phoronix's benchmark suite (as imperfect as it is) is definitely more useful. I

Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance

2009-06-13 Thread drago01
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Gilboa Davaragilb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 21:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 05:43 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: and no, glxgears is not a benchmark! Indeed, glxgears really sucks as as a benchmark, Phoronix's

Re: unable to include capability.h

2009-06-13 Thread Steve Grubb
On Friday 12 June 2009 09:02:39 am Daniel Lezcano wrote: As I only need the CAP_SYS_BOOT, I will define it manually in the source code and will remove the include, that's ugly but anyway... :/ Alternatelyas of today, libcap-ng is now in Fedora. It has a far simpler API and you should be

Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance

2009-06-13 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 06:05:52AM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: Up until 30 minutes ago, I was unaware of the fact that they use test-suite compiled binaries. Though I'd imagine that in Phoronix' view, having (far) different compile options in the distribution supplied binaries might generate

Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Matt Domsch
(Reposting to f-d-l from my blog post last night. http://domsch.com/blog/?p=85 includes a couple nice graphs to help illustrate.) CDs are Dead. Long live CDs. I was running some stats on the Fedora 11 release, and an interesting thing caught my eye. Very few people are downloading the six (or in

Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance

2009-06-13 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 12:20 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Gilboa Davaragilb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 21:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 05:43 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: and no, glxgears is not a benchmark! Indeed,

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 08:46 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote: Your thoughts? If we don't do split CDs, Fedora Unity is likely to do them. If we don't produce and test split media as part of our beta/release cycle, we'll likely not find bugs with their usage until after the release is made and Fedora

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 09:34 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com said: CDs had their place, back when DVD readers weren't commonplace, and before we had LiveCD/LiveUSB medias. Now, DVDs are fairly common, the LiveCDs work great for a lot of installs,

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Matt Domsch
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 07:04:12PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 09:34 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com said: CDs had their place, back when DVD readers weren't commonplace, and before we had LiveCD/LiveUSB medias. Now, DVDs

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Tom Lane
Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 08:46 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote: Your thoughts? If we don't do split CDs, Fedora Unity is likely to do them. Are we sure about that? The reasons not to bother would be just as strong for Unity, no? If we don't produce and test

Re: Strange /etc/fedora-release and smolt help

2009-06-13 Thread Richard Fearn
Can anyone with F11 installed look at what is in their /etc/fedora-release and tell me which one you have, and how you installed?  Also what version of fedora-release you have. $ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 11 (Leonidas) Installed this morning using x86_64 DVD. $ rpm -q

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: Are we sure about that? The reasons not to bother would be just as strong for Unity, no? I agree with that chain of reasoning, but am not convinced of the starting premise. OK lets remove any doubt, if Fedora Project does not produce them Fedora

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 11:12 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 07:04:12PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: Hmm, I'd want netboot.img back, since I normally use a USB stick to start the network install (OK, there is the possibility of using livecd-iso-to-disk, but that's a lot more

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Robert Marcano
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Robert 'Bob' Jensenb...@fedoraunity.org wrote: OK lets remove any doubt, if Fedora Project does not produce them Fedora Unity will if at all possible. The last time the CD media was dropped the crys and screams of terror from the third world that have never

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
the user's still able to install using netboot.iso. On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Robert 'Bob' Jensenb...@fedoraunity.org wrote: - Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: Are we sure about that?  The reasons not to bother would be just as strong for Unity, no? I agree with that chain of

Anybody know how to contact Axel Thimm?

2009-06-13 Thread Ricky Zhou
Hi, as per the process at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers, does anybody know how to contact Axel Thimm? We've been pinging him at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484855 for over two weeks now, although the bug has sat there for much longer

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Robert Marcano rob...@marcanoonline.com said: I think you are right about x86_64 probably is going to have a DVD Rom, I only have needed the CDs when installing i386 servers isolated from the internet. Remember, the minimum CPU for 32-bit x86 today is i586 (Pentium), and IIRC

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Remember, the minimum CPU for 32-bit x86 today is i586 (Pentium), and IIRC there was discussion about rebuilding for i686 (Pentium Pro). If we really want to decrease the mirror foot print how about we off load some of the 640MB+ data and docs

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Robert Marcano
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Chris Adamscmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Remember, the minimum CPU for 32-bit x86 today is i586 (Pentium), and IIRC there was discussion about rebuilding for i686 (Pentium Pro). You are technically right , but I am talking about the Fedora release Tag (that was

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br wrote: the user's still able to install using netboot.iso. Yeah some guy in a mud hut with no DSL only a 56k modem, Power 4 hours a day... NetInst FAIL. I remember Seth talking a while back about yum's performance. As I remember, sure

Re: Anybody know how to contact Axel Thimm?

2009-06-13 Thread Axel Thimm
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 02:38:28PM -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: that's true. I am also have a bug reported for nx package waiting for a long time. There are new nx packages in updates-testing since a week now. Which bug are you referring to? On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Ricky

Re: Anybody know how to contact Axel Thimm?

2009-06-13 Thread Milos Jakubicek
He recently responded, though he seems to be not so active now: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474017 Milos On 13.6.2009 19:38, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: that's true. I am also have a bug reported for nx package waiting for a long time. On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Ricky

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On 13/06/09 19:22, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Itamar Reis Peixotoita...@ispbrasil.com.br wrote: the user's still able to install using netboot.iso. Yeah some guy in a mud hut with no DSL only a 56k modem, Power 4 hours a day... NetInst FAIL. Just curious. But if a user has

Re: Anybody know how to contact Axel Thimm?

2009-06-13 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-06-13 09:24:12 PM, Axel Thimm wrote: It's correct that the bug is open a while, but technically your first ping as on 2009-06-05 00:05:35 EDT, that's hardly two weeks. I was waiting for 1.15.0 (out three days ago) to check whether the patch is still neccessary. But it looks like it

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Robert Marcano
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious. But if a user has bandwidth problems, how is\are mutiple CD's going to help, or is it purely on hardware grounds, no dvd-rom. No/slow internet is commonly followed by old hardware, it is a common

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Robert Marcano rob...@marcanoonline.com wrote: No/slow internet is commonly followed by old hardware, it is a common combination in my country. Recently on Fedora Venezuela mailing list we were discussing creating a special respin just because of the bandwidth problem here These are

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Matt Domschmatt_dom...@dell.com wrote: Your thoughts? Is there a geographic regional bias in the data? 1) Are all countries/regions downloading the split cds at less than 5% of the download activity for the given country region? 2) Is there a geographical

Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance

2009-06-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
drago01 wrote: There are alot of open source games[1} that are useable to for benchmarking. glxgears is NOT a benchmark. If you don't have anything but glxgears than you have NO benchmark. +1 [1]: openarena, nexuiz, ... Also etracer, torcs etc. Basically everything 3D with an FPS display

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious. But if a user has bandwidth problems, how is\are mutiple CD's going to help, or is it purely on hardware grounds, no dvd-rom. Does no one remember what happened last time the CD ball was dropped? Lets not repeat history just

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Robert 'Bob' Jensen b...@fedoraunity.org said: I remember Seth talking a while back about yum's performance. As I remember, sure yum worked fine on his computers but try it on the OLPC. He then understood what the bugs and complaints were about. Uh, OLPC doesn't have a CD

Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance

2009-06-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gilboa Davara wrote: I subscribed to Phoronix' RSS feed and at least 1/3-1/2 of their news stories are on OSS driver (mostly Intel and ATI) driver development - far more than any other OSS new site. [1] Too bad their hardware benchmarks do not match the development news, and too bad they also

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jesse Keating wrote: If we don't do split CDs, Fedora Unity is likely to do them. If we don't produce and test split media as part of our beta/release cycle, we'll likely not find bugs with their usage until after the release is made and Fedora Unity attempts to make them. As long as

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensenb...@fedoraunity.org wrote: Does no one remember what happened last time the CD ball was dropped? Lets not repeat history just for fun. We have been down this road before, it was ugly and only lasted one release. Torrent tracker numbers BTW

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: Yeah some guy in a mud hut with no DSL only a 56k modem, Power 4 hours a day... NetInst FAIL. We can't support everything. I'm sure there are some people still using a 486, we already don't support them anymore. A reasonably fast Internet connection is basically

Why a multilib wrapper for non-multilib architectures?!

2009-06-13 Thread Robert Scheck
Hello everbody, can somebody please explain me, why we've multilib wrappers for packages at non-multilib architectures such as arm, alpha, ia64 and sh? - http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/devel/gmp/gmp-mparam.h?view=co -

Outage Notification - 2009-06-15 23:00 UTC

2009-06-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
There will be an outage starting at 2009-06-15 23:00 UTC, which will last approximately 1.5 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-06-15 23:00 UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem Websites

Re: Why a multilib wrapper for non-multilib architectures?!

2009-06-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Robert Scheck rob...@fedoraproject.org said: can somebody please explain me, why we've multilib wrappers for packages at non-multilib architectures such as arm, alpha, ia64 and sh? multiarch != multilib Just for starters, long before x86_64 came into the picture, we had i386,

Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance

2009-06-13 Thread James Hubbard
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Gilboa Davaragilb...@gmail.com wrote: I apologize in advance, for the overly harsh language. (Not specifically directed at you, Kevin). I don't believe that you're being overly harsh. I've been surprised in general in the amount of whining that I've been

Re: Why a multilib wrapper for non-multilib architectures?!

2009-06-13 Thread Robert Scheck
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Chris Adams wrote: Just for starters, long before x86_64 came into the picture, we had i386, i486, i586, and i686. On Alpha, you have (IIRC) ev4, ev5, ev6, ev67, etc. You have seen, that these wrappers treat alpha as alpha and %{ix86} as i386 and that's it?! So your

Re: Why a multilib wrapper for non-multilib architectures?!

2009-06-13 Thread Robert Scheck
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Probably because it's less maintenance work in the specfile to just always add the wrapper. (On the other hand, it means extra work (adding an #ifdef) when adding a secondary arch.) Well, how would it help to have a wrapper for ia64 if no non-ia64

Re: Why a multilib wrapper for non-multilib architectures?!

2009-06-13 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Robert Scheck wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Probably because it's less maintenance work in the specfile to just always add the wrapper. (On the other hand, it means extra work (adding an #ifdef) when adding a secondary arch.) Well, how would

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: If Fedora Unity wants to create them, the burden of making them work should be on them. If Fedora Project will not or can not give the community what it needs that is where the community steps up, this is exactly what we did for Fedora 7.

Re: system-config-firewall picking up slack where firestarter fell off

2009-06-13 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 06/12/2009 04:54 PM, Adam Miller wrote: I'm retired firestarter, I picked it up recently as it was orphaned but as we are moving towards PolicyKit and there's no upstream to assist with the port and after a discussion we had here on the list I decided it was time to retire it. Now, with that

Re: Packaging Request: pdftkgui

2009-06-13 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 06/12/2009 01:08 AM, Mani A wrote: The GUI is well designed and is worth packaging http://www.paehl.de/pdf/gui_pdftk.html It is not present in the package database. feel free to add it to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist (unless you want to package, submit

Re: Why a multilib wrapper for non-multilib architectures?!

2009-06-13 Thread Robert Scheck
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Because as a Fedora packager, neither am I responsible nor do I care about ia64 packages. Replace ia64 by alpha (or any other secondary arch) and rerun my answer. Sorry, but wrong answer for a Fedora packager. If you lack knowledge, you should try to

Help needed for undefined symbol _ZN10ECMemTable6CreateEP14_SPropTagArrayjPPS_

2009-06-13 Thread Robert Scheck
Good evening, I'm still on the way to get the Zarafa Groupware into Fedora (see Fedora Package review request https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498194) and beside of the ongoing legal issue, I've also found a technical issue where I need some help. At the moment, it's a bit difficult:

Re: Why a multilib wrapper for non-multilib architectures?!

2009-06-13 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Scheck rob...@fedoraproject.org writes: On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Probably because it's less maintenance work in the specfile to just always add the wrapper. (On the other hand, it means extra work (adding an #ifdef) when adding a secondary arch.) Well, how would it

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Benny Amorsen
Robert Marcano rob...@marcanoonline.com writes: I think you are right about x86_64 probably is going to have a DVD Rom, I only have needed the CDs when installing i386 servers isolated from the internet. I think we should start considering the option to ship the net install ISO as a hard disk

bind-chroot in F11

2009-06-13 Thread mike cloaked
I checked the contents of the bind-chroot package in both F10 and f11 - as I was puzzled about running bind-chroot since things seemed rather different to previous behaviour. In F11 the contents contain /var/named/chroot and within this directory are /dev containing file null, random and zero

Re: Why a multilib wrapper for non-multilib architectures?!

2009-06-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Tom Lane wrote: Personally I don't use multilib wrappers on arches that don't need it; I think not needing extra cases in the wrapper header outweighs the added complexity in the specfile. But I'm not going to tell the gmp maintainer he's wrong for doing it the other way. +1 -- Rex --

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Matt Domsch
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 09:04:30PM +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: If Fedora Unity wants to create them, the burden of making them work should be on them. If Fedora Project will not or can not give the community what it needs

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Jesse Keating
Don't be clouded by who is requesting it. Releng qa anaconda et al would love to stop doing split cds. Less confusion on what to download would be appreciated by many too. We are one of the last distros to still do cd media outside of live media. Is this a case of users not knowing

Re: Strange /etc/fedora-release and smolt help

2009-06-13 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/06/09 09:40 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: Can anyone with F11 installed look at what is in their /etc/fedora-release and tell me which one you have, and how you installed? Also what version of fedora-release you have. -Mike $ cat

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Bradley Baetz
On 14/06/09 04:53, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious. But if a user has bandwidth problems, how is\are mutiple CD's going to help, or is it purely on hardware grounds, no dvd-rom. Does no one remember what happened last time the CD ball

Re: What I HATE about F11

2009-06-13 Thread Christian Rose
On 6/14/09, Charles Butterfield charles.butterfi...@nextcentury.com wrote: [...] Root gdm login - gets harder every release - SHAME ON YOU root nazis! Interesting. Godwin's law right from the start of a thread? I must buy a lottery ticket today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

[Bug 451744] Review Request: root - The CERN analyzer for high to medium energy physics

2009-06-13 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455510] Undisplayable glyphs on Wikipedia

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[Bug 455510] Undisplayable glyphs on Wikipedia

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[Bug 22268] New: [RFE] Add Phœnician support

2009-06-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22268 Summary: [RFE] Add Phœnician support Product: DejaVu Version: unspecified Platform: Other OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: medium

[Bug 505757] file does not identify properly some pcf.gz files

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[Bug 505758] New: inconsistent opentype font label

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[Bug 505759] file does not identify properly some pfa files shipped with groff

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[Bug 505759] New: file does not identify properly some pfa files

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[Bug 505762] New: file does not identify properly some pfa files shipped with ghostscript

2009-06-13 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 505759] file does not identify properly some pfa files shipped with groff

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[Bug 505762] file does not identify properly some pfa files shipped with ghostscript

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[Bug 505757] file does not identify properly some pcf.gz files shipped in japanese-bitmap-fonts

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[Bug 505764] New: file does not identify properly some pfa files shipped with a2ps

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[Bug 505765] New: file does not identify properly some pfb files shipped in texlive-texmf-fonts

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[Bug 505765] file does not identify properly some pfb files shipped in texlive-texmf-fonts

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[Bug 505775] New: file does not identify properly some pfa files shipped with enscript

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[Issue 102652] Fonts in directory with name having underscore character in it, are not found

2009-06-13 Thread fropeter
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=102652 --- Additional comments from frope...@openoffice.org Sat Jun 13 20:34:06 + 2009 --- I reverted the name of the directory to it's old one, including underscore

[Issue 102652] Fonts in directory with name having underscore character in it, are not found

2009-06-13 Thread kpalagin
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=102652 User kpalagin changed the following: What|Old value |New value

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Legal CD/DVD/BD writing software for RedHat and Fedora

2009-06-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/06/09 11:10, Joerg Schilling wrote: Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/06/09 00:25, Joerg Schilling wrote: Is there no RedHat lawyer in this list? If you believe you have a case. Hire, a lawyer. No one is stopping

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Legal CD/DVD/BD writing software for RedHat and Fedora

2009-06-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On 13/06/09 11:48, Joerg Schilling wrote: Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/06/09 11:10, Joerg Schilling wrote: Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/06/09 00:25, Joerg Schilling wrote: Is there no RedHat lawyer in this list? If you believe you have a case. Hire,

Re: OpenJDK / IcedTea is ###p

2009-06-13 Thread David
Again, are you sure you do? OpenJDK is 100% compliant to the JCK (Java Compatibility Kit, the official Java compliance test) and something like 99% identical to Sun Java 1.6 (it supports even several non-standard sun.* and com.sun.* classes and other implementation details, as it's derived

Re: OpenJDK / IcedTea is ###p

2009-06-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/13/2009 11:38 AM, David wrote: I need 'the real stuff' for several things. And, in spite of people such as you, that is what I am going to use. I will continue to 'try' the Linux 'knock-offs' and when they do the job? Great. Until? I need 'the real stuff'. Assuming this rant is

Re: HOWTO? Install TrueType fonts (not MS freefonts) onto Fedora 10

2009-06-13 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 13:10 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote: Don't forget that you need to set permissions and selinux context for these. Surely not... If you copy a file to a standard location, it should get set the proper contexts, during the copy. I haven't had to do this when I

Re: Fresh Fedora 11 fetches 362MB+ of updates, where's deltaRPM?

2009-06-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 06:45:03 +0200, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: I also hope we'll see LZMA payloads soon. Gzip is really bad. Other distributions have at least been using bzip2, which compresses significantly better, but Fedora refused it for CPU consumption reasons.

Re: F11: Hibernate OK, resume - not so much

2009-06-13 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi Steve, How do I do pstack *with debugging enabled*? Simply install the debug packages for xorg, your driver and other stuff you see in the stack-trace. You can use debuginfo-install to get the appropriate packages. The simply execute a few pstack pid-of-x, open a bug report and report it.

Re: Cd won't mount normally in fc10

2009-06-13 Thread Partha
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 02:10:37PM -1000, Dave Burns wrote: Is there some message I should be seeing in dmesg or /var/log/messages that would tell me that what is screwed up? if hal is able to mount removable drives automatically it logs them into /var/log/messages. Did you get any messages

Re: Fresh Fedora 11 fetches 362MB+ of updates, where's deltaRPM?

2009-06-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/13/2009 11:43 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 06:45:03 +0200, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: I also hope we'll see LZMA payloads soon. Gzip is really bad. Other distributions have at least been using bzip2, which compresses significantly better, but

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

2009-06-13 Thread g
Beartooth wrote: I have it on excellent authority that a .45 acp won't make a hole clear through a hard drive, but that a .30-06 will. factory .45 acp may not. custom .45 acp can. .357 mag good for spindle motor. rem 720 .306 can at 600 yds. .25c print @ 100 yds -- peace out. tc,hago.

Re: OpenJDK / IcedTea is ###p

2009-06-13 Thread David
On 6/13/2009 2:11 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/13/2009 11:38 AM, David wrote: I need 'the real stuff' for several things. And, in spite of people such as you, that is what I am going to use. I will continue to 'try' the Linux 'knock-offs' and when they do the job? Great. Until? I need

F11 is requiring root priv to mount DVD/CD - auto-magic method isn't working

2009-06-13 Thread Gerald B. Cox
When I insert a DVD/CD, the media is detected in KDE device notifier as expected. I'm then given suggested actions for the device. When I select Open with Dolphin I receive the message: Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder file:///mnt/source does not exist. I then open

Re: Fresh Fedora 11 fetches 362MB+ of updates, where's deltaRPM?

2009-06-13 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 14:55 +0930, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 22:20 +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote: The Fedora infrastructure team is trying to streamline the process a bit, but the fact remains that generating deltarpms costs a lot in CPU time and RAM usage, and the more deltarpms you

Re: OpenJDK / IcedTea is ###p

2009-06-13 Thread Major Péter
I did installed Sun JDK, and also I added it to the alternatives, but it looks like, that there is no way to get rid of OpenJDK: If you tries to install maven2 with yum, it will still download the openjdk, even if there is no need to do that (in alternatives Sun JDK is the only possibility).

Re: Other host already uses address -

2009-06-13 Thread Bob Goodwin
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: It's difficult without the ethernet connection, I would have to type it manually. but in addition to eth0 or 1 and lo, I also have an pan0? I do not show that on this good computer? I tried plugging in a PCI ethernet card but the probe function

reverting from Fedora 11 to Fedora 10 (Intel video trauma)

2009-06-13 Thread Danny Yee
Is there any simple way to revert an upgrade from Fedora 10 to Fedora 11? I'd like to preserve /home, /usr/local and at least copies of configuration and log files, but I'd rather not have to copy everything onto an external drive and wipe the system. My Intel G45/X4500 motherboard graphics

Re: VM questions

2009-06-13 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 01:43 +, Amadeus W.M. wrote: I have a dual Xeon 64 bit processor, which I don't believe has hardware VM support. Can I still run a VM machine in F11 with XP as guest OS? Which F11 disk should I download? Could you post the output of $ cat /proc/cpuinfo? In

Re: Fresh Fedora 11 fetches 362MB+ of updates, where's deltaRPM?

2009-06-13 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Jonathan Dieter jdie...@gmail.com wrote: Nobody is talking about stopping deltarpms. The real question is how many deltarpms we will generate, and that's going to be decided once compose times (see my other reply on this thread) go down. Throwing hardware

Auto-installed HP printer not working due to missing hpijs

2009-06-13 Thread Daniel Roesen
Hi, while installing Fedora 11, my HP PhotoSmart PSC 2610 (USB+Ethernet) got automatically detected and installed as USB printer. So far so nice and shiny. Unfortunately, any attempt to print a test page results in a failure, stating that foomatic-rip failed. No indication in any syslog why and

ti_usb_3410_5052: probe of 3-2:1.0 failed with error -5 ??

2009-06-13 Thread Gregory Machin
Hi I have a Huawei device that I have been using on fc 8 and fc 10. But now with fc 11 it does not work. Here is the log file entries for the device. Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: usb 3-2: USB disconnect, address 26 Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using

Re: Other host already uses address -

2009-06-13 Thread Bob Goodwin
Bob Goodwin wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: It's difficult without the ethernet connection, I would have to type it manually. but in addition to eth0 or 1 and lo, I also have an pan0? I do not show that on this good computer? I tried plugging in a PCI ethernet card but

Re: F11: Hibernate OK, resume - not so much

2009-06-13 Thread Steven Stern
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/12/2009 04:54 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: I guess the following stuff would help: - pstack traces of Xorg with debugging statements enabled, while Xorg is at 100% cpu - hardware used FYI, I'll post to bugzilla, but here's the trace top

Re: Other host already uses address -

2009-06-13 Thread Partha
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 08:29:34AM -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have another problem! The thumb drives are not being properly detected. They show up in lsusb are listed under Gnome Places but do not appear on the desktop? I believe they should show up under /media,

Am I Missing Fedora 11 Updates?

2009-06-13 Thread Robert L Cochran
I'm not missing any updates, have I? It has been a few days without them. I'm using a Fedora 11 which was installed way back during the beta period and kept up to date ever since. Perhaps my yum is set up wrong? -- # yum

Re: OpenJDK / IcedTea is ###p

2009-06-13 Thread Robert L Cochran
Yeah, I'm sure. Been there. Done that. Bob On 06/13/2009 12:25 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Robert L Cochran wrote: Arduino software (from http://www.arduino.cc/ ) needs the Sun Java version to run properly. Have you actually tried it with OpenJDK? Projects will often say you need Sun

Re: Am I Missing Fedora 11 Updates?

2009-06-13 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 09:43 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: I'm not missing any updates, have I? It has been a few days without them. I'm using a Fedora 11 which was installed way back during the beta period and kept up to date ever since. Perhaps my yum is set up wrong? We had noticed this

Re: Am I Missing Fedora 11 Updates?

2009-06-13 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 16:47 +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 09:43 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: I'm not missing any updates, have I? It has been a few days without them. I'm using a Fedora 11 which was installed way back during the beta period and kept up to date ever

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