Re: Chown ???

2009-04-09 Thread Andrew Kelly
Hmm, guess none of you losers watch the Discovery channel, huh? Isn't anybody interested in bettering themselves anymore? Sheesh... Some cave paintings recently discovered in what was once the heart of the early bronze age Germanic tribes (and carbon dated to that period in confirmation)

Re: X fails to start after recent update

2009-02-27 Thread Andrew Kelly
Hugh, On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 16:57 -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: I did an update. It said I should reboot. After reboot, X does not come up. I can flip to a text console: that's what I'm typing this into. Anyone else have this problem? Same problem here, also running F 10 on X86-66

Re: Yam repository for Fedora howto ?

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 09:58 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 10:32 +0200, Gregory Machin wrote: Hi can anyone recommend a good Yam howto for setting up local mirror for yum and automated installs ? OK, I'll bite. What's Yam? It's a sweet potato. Or, if you're

Re: Fedora Infinity: A Dumb Question?

2008-08-06 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 22:14 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 16:36 -0600, kwhiskerz wrote: I have always wondered why it is necessary to issue a new version of Fedora (or any other OS every 6 months). Why cannot an OS be like a river, constantly flowing and always

Re: Fedora Infinity: A Dumb Question?

2008-08-06 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 10:01 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: For those of us old enough to remember, Rawhide also has it's own TV show and theme song[1]: Move ‘em on, head ‘em up, head ‘em up, move ‘em out, Move ‘em on, head ‘em out Rawhide! http://lwn.net/Articles/257634/ Alan Really

Re: Fedora Infinity: A Dumb Question?

2008-08-06 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 12:50 +0100, Michael C wrote: Andrew Kelly wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 22:14 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 16:36 -0600, kwhiskerz wrote: I have always wondered why it is necessary to issue a new version of Fedora (or any other

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-28 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 13:32 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Björn Persson wrote: If you are really paranoid (or about to do large transactions on what you hope is your banking site), you could do a 'whois' lookup for the target domain to find their own name servers and send a query directly

My own private GNU / Linux thread

2008-07-28 Thread Andrew Kelly
Yes, it's mine, but I'm happy to share. Well, at least as long as it doesn't become tainted by any self-important bluster. I've been in very close contact with a scandinavian physicist who has proof that the number of strange attractors these threads are generating is beginning to affect the

Re: *News Flash* Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 11:34 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: CNN reports that leading climatologists and Al Gore have confirms that all the hot air on this thread is accelerating global warming. Al Gore, Al Gore, that rings a bell. Isn't he that guy who invented that internetwork whachacallit? Heeza

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 14:54 +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 21:47 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: the GPL is the one that most often does not permit freedom compared to any other set of combinations Just because it doesn't permit the freedom that *you* want to exploit... All

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 11:38 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: Do you have a sample config for me to look at? I have some vermin I want to killfile, and I've not had time to set anything up yet... If you are using claws then use Create Filter Rule by From or Subject and move them into another

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-15 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 23:25 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jul 14, 2008, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip for brevity Except that what you call Linux software isn't actually for Linux. Have you ever heard of Nexenta (GNU/kOpenSolaris), Debian GNU/kFreeBSD, and even UnixWare? If you

Re: Closed source modules will be banned from kernel?

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 00:10 -0400, max wrote: Andrew Kelly wrote: :^)knowledge of self is the best kind of knowledge to have , recognize the switch and then you can learn how to flip it. Been looking for that one a while, indeed. It was written by a journalist named Wulfing von

Re: Closed source modules will be banned from kernel?

2008-07-11 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 13:25 -0400, max wrote: Is this a case of incorrect attributions in your reader, or are you really asking me this question and if so, what's prompted that? You wrote in response to Anne's question/statement/comment: It's not actually considered OK, Anne, it's just

Re: Closed source modules will be banned from kernel?

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 12:04 -0400, max wrote: Andrew Kelly wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 08:35 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: snip Why is it considered OK to insult people on a mailing list, when you wouldn't to their face? Anne snip [panpan panpan panpan] Big soap box

Re: Any suggestions for Really Annoying Alarms !!?

2008-07-09 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 08:15 -0400, William Case wrote: snip Been there, done that. There is lots of alarm programs out there, but I want something that is simple to set, then grabs you by the throat and won't let you go until you do whatever it is you are supposed to do. Years and years

Re: Closed source modules will be banned from kernel?

2008-07-08 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 08:35 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 07 July 2008 20:37:33 Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:51:51 +0100 Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Binary modules usually last only a few releases before changes in the kernel break them by accident anyway so I

Re: Regarding the keylogger in the linux fedora systems

2008-06-30 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 22:04 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 12:21 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: snip Its a bad idea to install something like that on your machine anyway. An attacker will probably know of all such common tools floating around, like a prepackaged rpm,

Re: What is the matter with fedora 9?

2008-06-27 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 14:00 -0700, Craig White wrote: snip The thing I love about flat earth folks who disparage things like NetworkManager and PulseAudio is that they are consistently blind to the fact that there are circumstances where these are valuable tools. Craig Indeed. Yes. And

Re: Upgrade from 8 to 9: Yes or no ?

2008-06-19 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 16:09 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 18 June 2008 15:58:08 Andrew Kelly wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:05 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:42:43 +0100 Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One slight problem with this is that if one

Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)

2008-06-18 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 06:59 -0700, stan wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: http://digg.com/environment/Race_hots_up_to_produce_the_first_car_running_on_tap_water Please check this out and digg it... also see the links in the digg comments. Never studied thermodynamics? I have a

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-17 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 12:17 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Andrew Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 15:03 -0600, linuxguy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 09:38 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: QUESTION TO DEVELOPERS: Is there any hope of a full

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-16 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 15:03 -0600, linuxguy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 09:38 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: QUESTION TO DEVELOPERS: Is there any hope of a full KDE 3.5 in F10, plus an upgrade path from F8 to F10 that preserves KDE 3.5 configurations? KDE 4.0 is incomplete and not suitable

Re: Things are poppin now!

2008-06-11 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 20:06 -0700, john wendel wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: The new 2.6.25.4-10.fc8 kernel update seems to have infected my fedora 8 boot partition with the same popping noise that I first noticed after installing fedora 9:

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:09 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: Andrew Kelly akelly at corisweb.org writes: Even Sidux won't yet touch KDE4, and that's right out there on the scary edge and KDE-centric to boot. One must learn to read the omens. Sidux is based on Debian unstable (sid). Hence