Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
DC == David Cantrell dcantr...@redhat.com writes: DC I was using 'unused-patches' until the packaging guidelines had us DC change Patch lines to use %{name} if that applied. Please quote chapter and verse there. I don't recall any guidelines requiring such a thing. - J -- fedora-devel-list

Re: Need a sponsor: mod_proxy_html (apache)

2009-12-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MB == Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk writes: MB Here is a list of review requests that are not yet assigned to a MB reviewer: Rather than huge bugzilla queries, why not just http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/ ? - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Weird problem building zsh in local mock but not in koji

2009-11-24 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
I'm having a problem building the current zsh srpm (zsh-4.3.10-4.fc13.src.rpm) on my local builder, which runs F11-x86_64 and has mock-0.9.18-1.fc11.noarch. On IRC, a user reported the same problem, only his builder runs CentOS 5.4 and has mock-0.9.14-2.el5.noarch. Surprisingly, the same srpm

Re: Weird problem building zsh in local mock but not in koji

2009-11-24 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RM == Roland McGrath rol...@redhat.com writes: RM That is job control weirdness. Something about the state of tty RM magic is different in the two different contexts where you run the RM test. Unfortunately that level of magic is mostly beyond me. RM The things to look at are whether the

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] License tag to use for CC0 1.0 Universal?

2009-11-17 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TC == Tom \spot\ Callaway tcall...@redhat.com writes: TC It probably merits a separate entry, because it is a rather thorough TC public domain declaration. Does this have any of the issues that public domain has with respect to people who live in countries where they cannot disclaim all of

Re: A silly question about our FC tag

2009-11-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
IRP == Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br writes: IRP because renaming it will cause problems, Actually not if done in conjunction with a release bump, such as we do with a mass rebuild. - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

[Fedora-legal-list] Combining copyrights on Erlang source files

2009-11-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
A question occurred to me after doing a review recently about whether Erlang source is compiled and linked together like C source or whether the source files remain separate like, say, Python. The issue is an Erlang package where some source files are LGPLv3+ but one is GPLv2+. I took the safe

[Fedora-legal-list] Does the AGPL impose packaging requirements?

2009-11-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Does Fedora as a distro need to package AGPL (v3, if it matters) software in any specific way to meet the requirements of the license? Or do we simply provide a package (and src.rpm) and leave it up to the person installing the software to make sure they comply? - J

Re: conflict between seedit - selinux-policy and qstat - torque-client

2009-11-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RK == Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com writes: RK 2. qstat and torque-client both provide a qstat binary... is there RK anything done to get that resolved upstream? or is it a conflicts RK and forget scenario? This one, I think, should be easily resolvable with alternatives. Actually I think all

Re: conflict between seedit - selinux-policy and qstat - torque-client

2009-11-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
ST == Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch writes: ST Would be happy for an alternatives solution. I have yet another ST /usr/bin/qstat for a POSIX interface to batch on the way at some ST point. Turns out that the other queuing systems (torque and gridengine) have already renamed their qstat

Re: Ubuntu shows updates / security updates on shell logins

2009-11-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RWMJ == Richard W M Jones rjo...@redhat.com writes: RWMJ Newly installed Ubuntu 9.10, when you log in over ssh you may see: RWMJ 34 packages can be updated. 10 updates are security updates. What a terrible idea. My users, who are welcome to ssh into a number of machines at my site, have no

Re: Pyhton image

2009-11-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JM == Jonathan MERCIER bioinfornat...@gmail.com writes: JM Dear sir, I have open a bug: JM https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532248 JM But i have any answer! What can i do? Somehow acquire patience? Work on debugging the problem yourself? You haven't given much time at all for the

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SD == Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes: SD On the server (Which is suggested): Add the following entry to the SD /etc/exports file: SD / *(ro,fsid=0) SD Note: 'fsid=0' is explained in the exports(5) man pages. Could someone comment on any potential security issues that exporting the

Requesting help with http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/

2009-10-22 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
For ages there's been this ugly set of pages at http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/ used by folks who do package reviews for Fedora to avoid having to stare at the bugzilla query screen. Lately I've been trying to overhaul things a bit; I made things generate from genshi templates

Re: Perl RPM Requires/Provides

2009-10-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
ES == Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr writes: ES Note that there's only the option of selectively removing the ES automatically found values: ES http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Perl#Filtering_Requires:_and_Provides Well, actually if you look at what's on that page, it

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: [publican-list] Adjusting copyright information

2009-10-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RF == Richard Fontana rfont...@redhat.com writes: [Offensiveness of WTFPL text] RF Agreed, this is unfortunate. :) Might I suggest simply modifying the offensive language? I know license proliferation is bad, but if the result is legally equivalent and serves the necessary purpose then I

Re: Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SSF == Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus ste...@seekline.net writes: SSF If I interpret the naming guidelines right, then a period is not SSF allowed in a package name. Could you indicate where in the naming guidelines you see that a period is not valid in a package name? - J -- fedora-devel-list

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
FJR == Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com writes: FJR * Phonon backend not as mature as Xine one FJR - missing functionality Perhaps you could supply more detail as to which functionality is missing? - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] rubygem GPLv3 package requiring GPLv2 package

2009-09-25 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JK == Jan Klepek jan.kle...@brandforge.sk writes: JK Hi, I'm working on packaging rubygem-ditz which is licensed under JK GPLv3 ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525211 ). Ditz JK require library rubygem-trollop which is under GPLv2 ( JK

Re: Where is Callum Lerwick / seg?

2009-09-23 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
I know that Callum has in the past had periods where he is very busy. Given that he's asked for assistance before, and that no reasonable maintainer wouldn't want help from experienced packagers when busy, I went ahead and approved agoode and rdieter's requests for watchbugzilla, watchcommits and

Re: Fwd: [Bug 249824] Review Request: last.fm - listen to last.fm radio stations

2009-09-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MAS == Michel Alexandre Salim michael.silva...@gmail.com writes: MAS Who is this Piotr Drag and why is he suddenly Cc:ing himself on MAS very old bug requests? I assume you mean un-ccing himself. Do you believe he has violated some rule by removing himself from the CC list of several bugs? I

Re: Question about .bs files

2009-09-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
OP == Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com writes: OP Can anyone tell me what the purpose of an empty *.bs files in the OP auto directory tree would be? Do we need to package them? You shouldn't package them. There's a reason the specfle template deletes them: # Remove the next line from

Re: how to determain those no longer required packages

2009-08-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
AT == Axel Thimm axel.th...@atrpms.net writes: AT I don't think apt traces whether a packages was a pulled in manually AT or automatically, does it? yum does keep track of many things in the yumdb and I think the reason key is supposed to track this, but for me it seems reason is always user.

Re: tests in %doc?

2009-08-28 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SK == Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com writes: SK Hello, I have noticed that some of the perl module packages do pack SK their tests in the %doc subdirectory. Is that intentional? One maintainer insists on doing it. I think it's pointless, but I gave up arguing long ago. - J -- Fedora Extras

Re: Strange message from Bugzilla

2009-08-24 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MAS == Michel Alexandre Salim michael.silva...@gmail.com writes: MAS When a review is granted, the mail always says $REVIEWER has MAS granted $REVIEWER's request for fedora-review. Shouldn't the MAS second $REVIEWER be $PACKAGER ? That's just a by-product of the way we abuse bugzilla's flags

Re: Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs

2009-08-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JJ == Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com writes: JJ Would someone who has editing rights to JJ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Emacs please do a global JJ search and replace: Could we have some explanation of why these changes are needed? Have these directories changed location

Re: Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs

2009-08-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Certainly the text not agreeing with the templates is something we need to fix. I've changed four references of xemacs/site-packages to xemacs/site-packages/lisp in two specfile templates. Please double-check that everything is correct. - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JN == Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com writes: JN These virtual provides, such as tex(tex), tex(latex) or tex(xetex) JN were added at the beginning of the year 2008 so it works at least JN for Fedora 9 and higher. JN We should file bugs for these packages. There are many, many more packages that

Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JLT == Jason L Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu writes: JLT There are many, many more packages that require tetex-latex at JLT build time. Notably every R package, most likely because of JLT http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:R. I have adjusted the guideline page to reference tex(latex), but I

Re: soname number bump for audit-libs

2009-08-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SG == Steve Grubb sgr...@redhat.com writes: SG It would have been in before feature freeze if sc-audit hadn't SG gotten stuck in package review. A couple of points here, since you seem to be blaming the review process for the lateness of this package: Submitting a new package request and

Re: soname number bump for audit-libs

2009-08-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SG == Steve Grubb sgr...@redhat.com writes: SG I was doing the package review and someone else took it from me. You had it assigned to yourself with the fedora-review flag set? Looking at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_activity.cgi?id=514602, it seems that it was assigned to you but the flag

Re: Review

2009-08-05 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JL == Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org writes: JL (I'm not very sure, however, about the current policy of wanting JL sponsors to review first packages. IMHO anyone should be able to JL review them, just as long as a sponsor goes through them and some JL inofficial reviews by the

Re: Review

2009-08-05 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JL == Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org writes: JL That's what I think, too, but JL http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join#Get_Sponsored JL thinks otherwise: Actually it just says what I said more succinctly. An informal review can be done by anyone. The actual full

Re: F12 rpm on F11 (rpmlib(PayloadIsXz))

2009-08-01 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
AT == Axel Thimm axel.th...@atrpms.net writes: AT Is there an upgrade-rpm-for-F11 available? In updates-testing. - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Rawhide mock builds broken

2009-07-31 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JK == Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: JK Hrm, so I wonder about this. Does exim rely on the group ownership JK at all for anything? Would it make sense to have a general JK 'service' or 'nobody' group that these things could be tossed in if JK the group isn't to be used, to avoid

Re: Rawhide mock builds broken

2009-07-31 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JLT == Jason L Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu writes: JLT So useradd must have changed its behavior quite recently. It could be shadow-4.1.4.1-sysacc.patch, I guess, but that was built in rawhide on the 16th of this month and I've done plenty of builds since then. - J -- fedora-devel-list

Rawhide mock builds broken

2009-07-30 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Today I tried to do some rawhide builds in my usual mock setup (running on updated x86_64 F11), but somehow I can't even init a chroot due to: Executing command: ['/usr/sbin/groupadd', '-g', '498', 'mockbuild'] Child returncode was: 4 GID 498 is already occupied by exim, which gets pulled in

Re: Rawhide mock builds broken

2009-07-30 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JK == Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net writes: JK Mock is trying to add a user / group that matches the user / group JK calling it. Is the user calling it of gid 498? That's the GID of the mock group on the host. It's not my primary GID, but I guess that doesn't matter. It would

Re: rpms/kmess/F-11 kmess.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-07-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TM == Till Maas opensou...@till.name writes: TM Please explain why. The details are in the review ticket; I neglected to check where my message was going before I sent it. But basically, it's not permissible to say your package is a clone of X where X is a trademark. - J --

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] aria2 license

2009-07-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RS == Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org writes: RS Hi, http://aria2.sf.net was marked as GPLv2 so far. I recently RS took over the package and noticed that the license is actually RS GPLv2+ with an exception for OpenSSL. That doesn't seem to be RS specifically covered under the licensing

Re: openssh-blacklist - careless waste of space.

2009-07-24 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
YK == Yanko Kaneti yan...@declera.com writes: YK Seriously wtf!? Can't answer that. YK And where is the frikken package review for it? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509990 Unfortunately neither the reviewer nor the packager updated the ticket title with the changed name of the

Re: Is BuildRoot still mandatory?

2009-07-20 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
BP == Björn Persson bj...@rombobjörn.se writes: BP So my question is: If there are no plans to build a package on any BP distribution release where a BuildRoot tag is needed, and it is BP known that the package won't build cleanly on such a release, is a BP BuildRoot tag still required for the

Re: Proposal to Drop Fedora 12 Features

2009-07-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
d == drago01 drag...@gmail.com writes: d Afaik those are blocking on xz review request rel-eng to coordinate d a mass rebuild The xz review had stalled; notting asked me to step in but somehow it slipped my mind for a day. I just went ahead and took it over; there are a couple of things to

Re: epel-release in Fedora repos?

2009-07-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JK == Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: JK At 7000+ srpms there is no way I could evaluate each and every one JK for validity before submitting it for a rebuild. I think the point is that the package owner should have deleted it from devel so that there would be nothing for rel-eng to

Re: epel-release in Fedora repos?

2009-07-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TM == Till Maas opensou...@till.name writes: TM Imho if the devel branch is a problem, then it should not be TM created when the package is imported to CVS, if it is a epel-only TM package. The devel branch is mandatory, but that doesn't mean that the package owner has to import anything there

Re: Mass-Package Orphanage

2009-07-03 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
NDN == Nathanael D Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca writes: NDN I'm wondering if it is possible to be a co-maintainer with NDN someone willing? In general, all you need is a sponsor. The usual route to that is via the submission of new packages, but it's not the only way. I happen to be a sponsor, so

Re: Mass-Package Orphanage

2009-07-03 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
DS == Dodji Seketeli do...@redhat.com writes: DS Interesting. I thought people were obliged to submit _new_ DS packages to request sponsorship, Any user can request sponsorship without doing anything. That doesn't mean they're going to get it, of course. It is the sponsor's responsibility to

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MC == Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com writes: MC So, how should I propose to FESCO exclusion of DiveIntoPython MC (BTW, wonderful book), Jules Verne and anything else we find? Open a ticket on their trac (https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/). The issue here is that the guidelines explicitly permit

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MC == Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com writes: MC Well, I always understood, that documentation which is part of MC normal package is OK, but source package which contains nothing MC else than documentation isn't. If that was the case, then I see 17 -docs packages that build completely separately

Re: Fedora LaTeX SIG?

2009-06-11 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JL == Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org writes: JL On 06/02/2009 07:27 AM, Jindrich Novy wrote: New version texlive-2008 (to be in f12): one single texlive package generating 3944 subpackages / 1065 MiB JL Oh. My. God. Please read the whole thread; that was the initial proposal,

Re: Fedora LaTeX SIG?

2009-06-11 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
NM == Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: NM I didn't see this before but I can only agree with the replies: NM this is an insane plan. Nobody is ever going to review properly a NM 2.7 MiB spec file, updating will be hell, etc. Isn't it nice, then that the final plan is

Re: rpms/polkit-gnome/devel polkit-gnome.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-09 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MB == Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) boche...@fedoraproject.org writes: MB After each item in the review guidelines, add a [more] link that MB points to the relevant section in the packaging guidelines ? Do you realize that the document already has footnotes doing exactly that? - J --

Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
J == Jason L Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu writes: J The Packaging Committee will meet Tuesday, 2009-05-26 at 17:00UTC J in the #fedora-meeting channel on chat.freenode.net. Due to lack of quorum, this meeting is postponed to Tuesday, 2009-06-02. I will send an updated agenda as the meeting

Re: Removing %clean

2009-05-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TC == Tom \spot\ Callaway tcall...@redhat.com writes: TC Is anyone opposed to that? It's hard to oppose anything that frees us from carrying around all of this useless crap in every specfile. If we ever want our packaging to be considered sane, we have to make progress towards getting rid of

Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-25 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
The Packaging Committee will meet Tuesday, 2009-05-26 at 17:00UTC in the #fedora-meeting channel on chat.freenode.net. FPC works from the agenda at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/GuidelinesTodo; there's just one item currently on the agenda: Phase out Buildroot -

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Another list of potential issues

2009-04-30 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TC == Tom \spot\ Callaway tcall...@redhat.com writes: TC pike: Not in Fedora. FYI, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459579 If there's an issue, could you add a comment there? - J ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] CDF license

2009-04-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JB == Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com writes: JB It would seem no. It has a very confusing 'not sold for profit' JB item. Note that Debian believes this is sufficiently free, because they have no requirement that software be redistributable for profit on its own, only as part of their

Re: [pkgdb] kernel: oliver has requested commit

2009-02-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
KM == Kyle McMartin k...@infradead.org writes: KM Uh, who are you again? Oliver Falk, works on the Alpha port if I'm not mistaken. - J ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] lwjgl

2009-02-20 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
FL == Farkas Levente lfar...@lfarkas.org writes: FL hi, i'd like to know that lwjgl is ok for fedora: FL http://www.lwjgl.org/license.php thanks in advance. yours. That's just 3-clause BSD, isn't it? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing/BSD#New_BSD_.28no_advertising.2C_3_clause.29 It's

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] mldonkey's src/utils/lib/md4.h licence

2009-01-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
DM == Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski domi...@greysector.net writes: DM Am I mistaken? Is this licence acceptable for Fedora? The info at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing/FAQ#What_about_the_RSA_license_on_their_MD5_implementation.3F_Isn.27t_that_GPL-incompatible.3F seems to be on-point

Re: Security reviews for new packages

2009-01-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MT == Mamoru Tasaka mtas...@ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp writes: MT I guess I can basic reviews also required for other packages, MT however for security matters I really applicate any help from who MT knows how to deal with securitly issues. Well, my request didn't result in any assistance, so I'm not

Re: config changes

2009-01-13 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
DJ == Dave Jones da...@redhat.com writes: DJ The last time we tried this, it blew up a lot due to broken DJ BIOSes. Yes, this used to kill a bunch of my machines dead. It may be better now; I'm quite willing to boot test kernels if someone wants to point me at one. - J

Re: Koji feature proposals

2009-01-06 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
OF == Oliver Falk oli...@linux-kernel.at writes: OF And regarding your point: '... different arches build noarch OF subpackage with different contents'. Well, then it's definitly not OF *noarch*, is't it? :-) It is quite possible for the contents to differ by, say, date, or by timestamps being

Re: Koji feature proposals

2009-01-06 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MB == Mike Bonnet mi...@redhat.com writes: MB There is some set of post-build checks we may want to run on these MB noarch subpackages to ensure they are in fact noarch, and that MB their content is sane. I think it would be sufficient to collect all of the noarch packages generated from the

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] THOR Public License (based on MPL)

2008-11-19 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
This package brings up a couple of other issues. Firstly, it's an emulator, but it doesn't seem to need any original ROMs to run because they're written their own work-alikes. I'm assuming this is OK, but I guess it's worth asking. Secondly, those work-alike ROMs are included in pre-assembled

Re: Security reviews for new packages

2008-11-11 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
KF == Kevin Fenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KF I'm no expert, but I could take a look I suppose. Another pair of eyes won't hurt, of course, but honestly I don't know what's involved in an actual secuity review. KF How about we make a F_SECURITY_REVIEW tracker bug, and any review KF that needs

Front page links to pkgdb?

2008-11-11 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Someone asked on IRC today how someone who is not a Fedora user could know if a particular piece of software is packaged for Fedora. I pointed them to pkgdb (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/) but then went to the web site to try to understand why they couldn't figure that out for

Re: Trying to figure out some umask issues

2008-11-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JK == Jesse Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JK I do believe that sets it to whatever owner permissions the file JK has on the filesystem, root owner, root group, whatever group JK permissions it has on the filesystem or something close to that JK effect. Well, yes, but obviously

Trying to figure out some umask issues

2008-11-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
I do a large number of local mock builds as a part of the package reviews that I do, and one problem I consistently run into is executables and .so files coming out with mode 775, but a scratch build in Fedora's koji instance showing the expected 755 permissions. I thought it might be some local

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] CeCILL licence

2008-10-09 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
DM == Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DM Hi. SciLab has changed its licence to CeCILLv2[1], which claims to DM be GPLv2+ compatible. I tried reading it and it gave me a DM headache. It seems to contain a few dubious passages[2]. Could RH DM Legal have a look at it and

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] binclock license

2008-09-05 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TC == Tom \spot\ Callaway Tom writes: TC Given that the author wrote the debian/copyright file, we can TC take that as his intent. Would it be possible to add a bit to the Licensing page or FAQ about determining intent in situations like this? Or it would simply be better to ask in each case?

Re: bodhi abuse?

2008-08-30 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Yes, I have seen many of these on my and other updates. It's quite annoying to me that someone would try to do that. I mean, if you really want an update and you've tested it, contact the maintainer and make a request. But creating fake accounts just to bump karma is only going to force people

[Fedora-legal-list] Trusting upstream website when code has no license

2008-08-15 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
This may be a FAQ, but searching didn't turn it up. If it's not already documented, perhaps we could get it into the FAQ page because this question comes up often enough when doing package reviews. The problem is code which has no license information at all. Sometimes there are copyright

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Trusting upstream website when code has no license

2008-08-15 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RF == Richard Fontana [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RF Disclaimer: IAARHL, IANYL, TINLA No problem. However, please forgive this response for I am new to this list and don't know who everyone is. I simply do not know if should take your comments as rendered opinion for the purposes of acceptance

Re: fun with CVS branching

2008-04-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
BN == Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BN So, the question would be... is this worth it? Do we want to keep BN supporting this? I can't see how it's all that useful. And given that this is the kind of weirdness that's going to be difficult to emulate using some other version control

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-12 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
GS == Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GS So if you do find a module with problematic licenses it would be GS great if you could check if CPANTS http://cpants.perl.org/ has GS also caught that issue. This is good news; Perl modules have often been a source of licensing trouble due to

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-12 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
GS == Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GS What others would you include in that list? The current set of approved licenses should be at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing (which isn't responding for me at the moment, so I can't cut'n'paste for you). - J -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-11 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
DC == Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DC I've always had a sneaking suspicion that what I've got are good DC enough for me, but not for Fedora's repositories. Well, modern cpanspec generates pretty good specs. Generally what you need to do is verify the license (which unfortunately seems

Re: How to have Perl packages co-maintained by perl-sig?

2008-03-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SK == Stepan Kasal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SK But I'm not going to make a request now, as I do not want to SK interfere with Jason's activity. I was done with what I was doing about ten minutes after I sent my message, which is over six days ago. I only did Alex's packages. - J -- Fedora

Re: kernel posttrans and preun hooks for other packages

2008-02-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
PJ == Peter Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PJ That doesn't guarantee the right thing -- it's inverted. It makes PJ it so that before kernel-devel's %post runs, kernel must be PJ installed. What Matt needs is a guarantee that kernel-devel is PJ installed (if it will be installed at all) before

Re: Oddly hanging mock build

2008-01-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
CW == Clark Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CW [...] It looks like it's hanging while running the test CW t/06error.t: Oh, crap; I never considered the possibility that it's actually made it that far into the package build. Unfortunately the mock output makes it look like it hasn't actually

Oddly hanging mock build

2008-01-15 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
I'm not sure what to make of this so I haven't yet filed a bug. But I noticed that one of spot's jobs was taking way longer than it should: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=31678 and so I grabbed the srpm and tried to build it on my local builder. It hung at the same place

Re: Security Changes For Fedora 9

2007-12-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
KF == Kevin Fenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 7: Password Protect Single User Mode (Runlevel 1) KF Might be worth doing. That's what the grub password is for. - J -- Fedora-security-list mailing list Fedora-security-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-security-list

Re: -vanilla builds.

2007-08-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
DJ == Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DJ I think we ended up settling on putting them on DJ people.fedoraproject.org. Given the 150MB quota, this probably DJ means... Actually all it means is that you need to ask for more space. - J ___

Re: Fedora 8 security flaws in Bugzilla

2007-08-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
LK == Lubomir Kundrak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LK Or are we going to handle that in another way? SFM? If the problem is bodhi closing bugs that may need to remain open to track the issue in different branches, wouldn't it be far simpler for bodhi to grow the option to just not close referenced

Re: License tag for perl modules

2007-08-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RN == Robin Norwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RN So you may want to update the license field as you go (Not RN blindly, of course...there are probably exceptions). I think there may be a few modules out there which are Artistic _only_, which it seems makes them unacceptable for Fedora. I

Re: License tag for perl modules

2007-08-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
PH == Paul Howarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PH rpmlint (at least up to rpmlint-0.80-2) still complains about PH this: Yes, Ville has indicated that he's fixing this. - J -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list

Re: License tag for perl modules

2007-08-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
IB == Ian Burrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IB Why would Artistic license be considered unacceptable for Fedora? It's in the Bad Licenses list at the bottom of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing IB Also, the Artistic 2.0 license is different. Yes, as recognized on the above page. IB It

Re: mark pod files as %doc?

2007-08-08 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
CG == Chris Grau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CG Which means they'd be installed under CG /usr/share/doc/%{name}-%{version}, right? No, it means they'd be marked as %doc and therefore wouldn't be installed with an --excludedocs install. - J -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG

Re: iwl3945

2007-06-08 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JU == Jonathan Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JU So, I was wondering what would be useful information to help debug JU this, beyond it doesn't work very well. Well, the latest F8 kernels have a newer version of the iwlwifi drivers; some folks have reported that it works much better for

Re: Archive::Zip - 'unauthorized' release.

2007-06-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RN == Robin Norwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RN Is there a general policy for this sort of situation, and if not, RN should there be? I'm not sure we could make one. When upstream forks (or pseudo-forks as seems to have happened here), we're going to have to figure out what to do on a

Re: Test::Pod::Coverage tests...

2007-05-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RC == Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RC You don't want to know about the bugs and deficits your packages RC suffer from? Well, to play devil's advocate, if we're to consider lack of documentation coverage a bug and block inclusion of packages due to those bugs, then we shouldn't even

Re: Mock going forward

2006-09-01 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
CW == Chris Weyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CW A while ago and on a different list, tibbs proposed adding one CW last bit to the buildcycle: Actually I think it was this list. Honestly I don't think this needs to be in mock, but mock really needs to continue to give me the means to do that kind

Re: Running rpmlint within mock

2006-07-17 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
CW == Clark Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CW Well dang, now you're going to make me work for it :). Well, no big deal; I'm happy with what I have now, although I really hope that I'll be able to continue to make it work somehow after mockhelper goes away. I think some type of

Re: proposed mock changes (diff)

2006-07-17 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MEB == Michael E Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MEB I just caught up on the rpmlint discussion, and have a few MEB concerns. MEB Security of installing just-built RPM Can't be any worse than actually building the package, can it? MEB Can rpmlint just be done outside of mock (using mock

Re: Running rpmlint within mock

2006-07-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
CW == Clark Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CW Just so you know, I have a version of mock that takes a --rpmlint CW command line option which will add rpmlint to the chroot CW transaction set, install it in the chroot and then run rpmlint on CW the generated SRPM and RPMs, putting the output

Re: Running rpmlint within mock

2006-07-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TK == Toshio Kuratomi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TK I don't know what Andras had in mind but one potential problem is TK that BuildRequires might not pull in all of a package's Requires. TK Noarch packages would be the primary place you'll see this. Obviously there's a working yum and a full set

Re: Running rpmlint within mock

2006-07-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JLT == Jason L Tibbitts, Jason writes: JLT Because I was told that is the only way rpmlint can run certain JLT checks. For an example of a check that only works if you actually install the package, see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=198835#c6 - J --

Re: Running rpmlint within mock

2006-07-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JK == Jesse Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JK mock chroot will allow you to run a comand in the chroot. Oh, awesome. Honestly, very many thanks. Might I be so bold as to suggest something like the following patch? Index: mock.py

Re: The next time you need to build a stack of modules...

2006-05-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SP == Steven Pritchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SP I just tried this with OpenFrame (something I manually built all SP the dependencies for a while back), and it looks like I'm down to SP 5 required modules that aren't in Extras already. Looks like I'll have more Perl modules to review. - J

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