Re: Comcast permanent block on port 25

2008-12-21 Thread Les Mikesell
expensive than good bandwidth to the home. Comcast bundles several accounts with email and space on their servers for storage and http service along with the connection. There's not a lot of reason to run your own server unless you have dynamic content. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes

Re: 1-second kernel

2008-12-20 Thread Les Mikesell
how to get 'your' version of Linux into these ROMs. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Free Public Wifi, and me being snoopy

2008-12-20 Thread Les Mikesell
case of Microsoft stupidity: http://billkosloskymd.typepad.com/wirelessdoc/2008/01/free-public-wi.html -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http

Re: Call for vote: Nautilus use Browser view for fedora 11

2008-12-20 Thread Les Mikesell
a fair chance that they won't get moderator approval and ever appear. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate

Re: Call for vote: Nautilus use Browser view for fedora 11

2008-12-20 Thread Les Mikesell
place would take ~10 minutes (including the time to install sabayon). The time and energy you have invested in this thread by now probably measures in days... Does sabayon allow publishing a profile so people could share their choices? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list

Re: Call for vote: Nautilus use Browser view for fedora 11

2008-12-20 Thread Les Mikesell
are doing now. Is there a fixed policy on how fedora must relate to upstream packages? That is, do you have a requirement to take every default that the upstream has (themes, etc.)? Or can any packager make any whimsical change he wants at any time? Or something in between? -- Les Mikesell

Re: 1-second kernel

2008-12-20 Thread Les Mikesell
) typically aren't booted frequently anyway. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: OT: Comcast permanent block on port 25

2008-12-19 Thread Les Mikesell
as you download via pop so you can delete copies from your server as you read them and still be able to use the web interface to gmail to search for something later. Or, just set up an imap client directly with gmail and not bother with your own server. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes

Re: starting multiple simultaneous downloads of a file

2008-12-19 Thread Les Mikesell
? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: starting multiple simultaneous downloads of a file

2008-12-19 Thread Les Mikesell
Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Em Sex 19 Dez 2008, Les Mikesell escreveu: Ali, Saqib wrote: Hello All, I am looking for a utility that can start multiple simultaneous downloads of a file. I was looking into wget, but it doesn't seem like that it can do that. Any thoughts? You've got a multi

Re: Call for vote: Nautilus use Browser view for fedora 11

2008-12-19 Thread Les Mikesell
Mark wrote: btw. i never understood why Linus Torvalds was so opposed to Gnome. i'm beginning to understand why. How much less RAM would your system need if everything shared one window toolkit? And how much better could it be if all development had focused on just one? -- Les Miksell

Re: Comcast permanent block on port 25

2008-12-19 Thread Les Mikesell
cost residential account comes with terms that say you won't run servers on it. If you aren't running a server, it doesn't matter much if they block port 25 or not. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https

Re: Comcast permanent block on port 25

2008-12-19 Thread Les Mikesell
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 16:00:29 -0600, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: The low cost residential account comes with terms that say you won't run servers on it. If you aren't running a server, it doesn't matter much if they block port 25 or not. Except

Re: Setting up Linksys WRT54GL for Remote Server

2008-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
a different port to forward to port 22 on the other box - or if you want more convenient access, set up something like openvpn between the private networks behind the routers. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https

Re: F10, VMware Server 2.0, and selinux

2008-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
the distribution's nonstandard quirks in a useful way. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Evolution with mapi plugin?

2008-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
by the CEO and the Board... And in the places where it didn't, the typical email would just become a word or excel attachment instead of html. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora

Re: Setting up Linksys WRT54GL for Remote Server

2008-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
Dave Ihnat wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:59:04PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: You probably only have one public IP so you can port-forward port 22 to only one inside address. You can pick a different port to forward to port 22 on the other box - or if you want more convenient access, set

Re: Setting up Linksys WRT54GL for Remote Server

2008-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
/etc/ssh/sshd_config. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?

2008-12-16 Thread Les Mikesell
or acceptable, you need to specify bg,soft for the mount - or better yet use the automounter so you don't even consider mounting until the need arises. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: Free (as in speech) flash alternative

2008-12-16 Thread Les Mikesell
Kam Leo wrote: By using or consuming flash content you will be supporting the very company that created the Flash standard, non-free players, and associated content creation tools. Don't use flash and you will not be offended. And the alternative? Silverlight/Moonlight? -- Les Mikesell

Re: OT: mp3 - ac3 - SP/DIF output?

2008-12-15 Thread Les Mikesell
encoding isn't very demanding, my CPUs are both hovering around 1 to 2% usage. If you only have 2 channels, is there some reason to encode as ac3 instead of pcm? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com

Re: E-mail Server

2008-12-14 Thread Les Mikesell
be reasonable to deploy strictly as a mail server if you want. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate

Re: Second try: Clarification of statement about stateless sytem]

2008-12-12 Thread Les Mikesell
on that. Anyway, the idea is that you can have a group of client computers with no maintenance or installation for the OS but the /home directories are saved across reboots, either on a local drive or nfs-mounted from a server. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: infrastructure modest proposal

2008-12-12 Thread Les Mikesell
process, it might actually become possible to do meaningful tests with packages in their proposed production context. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines

Re: Why was this dbus disaster released mid-release?

2008-12-12 Thread Les Mikesell
. Sorry to destroy your illusions, but I work with hundreds of windows servers that stay up for years with only a few scheduled reboots. Before (say) Win2k SP2 you might have been able to make a point about this. Today you can't. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing

Re: Sprint service smartphone recommendation for F10?

2008-12-12 Thread Les Mikesell
'movies near me' where you can drill down to review, but that may be on all the sprint phones with gps and data. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http

Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??

2008-12-07 Thread Les Mikesell
item: let the users download it and if it is broken they get to keep both pieces. Having a way to add comments and feedback would let you crowdsource the work of determining what works best in what situations, though. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora

Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.

2008-12-07 Thread Les Mikesell
beta quality ? Seriously? Am I just misreading? I don't see it defined as a test bed there. How does 'proving ground' and 'laboratory' differ substantially from 'test bed'? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https

Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.

2008-12-07 Thread Les Mikesell
to you? Giving and taking from the community -- isn't that a definition of a community member? Do you usually talk about your community in terms of how you can 'use' it? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https

Re: OT: rdesktop and netmeeting

2008-12-07 Thread Les Mikesell
with Macs? A number of family members are running Macs these days, and it'd be great to be able to connect with them. If you have SIP connectivity, Counterpath's X-lite might work for you: http://www.counterpath.net/X-Lite-Download.html. I haven't tried it with F10 though. -- Les Mikesell

Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??

2008-12-06 Thread Les Mikesell
, not the million variables he had to change to do it. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??

2008-12-06 Thread Les Mikesell
to use such a program is going to cost you in maintenance over time. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate

Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??

2008-12-06 Thread Les Mikesell
if the article was strictly about businesses using RHEL, the changes all start being distributed in fedora - including the ones that are going to cause maintenance issues for users upgrading to the next RHEL. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list

Re: Analog-to-Digital Audio:

2008-12-06 Thread Les Mikesell
specifications. The flat response is only a want. I can calibrate out any deviations if they are not severe (like being at -60dB at 5 Hz :-). You probably want to start here: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ for anything resembling professional audio On Linux. -- Les Mikesell

Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??

2008-12-06 Thread Les Mikesell
of the caching dns server that would help some subset of users. Making an end user need to know about a million config options to create one of a dozen or so common setups doesn't make much more sense than just throwing the source code at them. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list

Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??

2008-12-06 Thread Les Mikesell
configs might cover most of the cases. This is, of course, a different issue than 'how do I connect a form in openoffice to a table in postgresql?'. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??

2008-12-06 Thread Les Mikesell
and administrivia. But they aren't treated differently in the distributions, which contributes to the reputation of open source documentation that started this topic. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman

Re: script help

2008-12-01 Thread Les Mikesell
the with their contents, or you can 'rmdir' if they are empty. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Quest8ion about what backup util to use.

2008-11-26 Thread Les Mikesell
it.) Is there a favored util that will do what I want? Backuppc is close. It is really intended to back up multiple machines over a network with a web interface to browse and restore, but it will work locally and you can mount your extra disk in it's archive location. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL

Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux

2008-11-25 Thread Les Mikesell
. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Network Card Naming Issue

2008-11-21 Thread Les Mikesell
pretty. What if you want to replace your current eth0 with a different card and shift the use of the existing one to a different subnet? And all of this gets in the way when you need to restore your backups onto a similar but different box. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora

Re: Network Card Naming Issue

2008-11-21 Thread Les Mikesell
. The problem of mismatched identifiers is always going to exist, depending on which part you swap, and the motherboard, nics, conrollers, and disks are all equally candidates. We just need something besides andaconda that knows how to glue the pieces together. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Make a DHCP server using Fedora - Help

2008-11-19 Thread Les Mikesell
. You might avoid it if you run a nameserver and squid proxy on the host and configure the clients to use the proxy. Otherwise you need the host to route the packets if you have a NAT gateway elsewhere, or to route and NAT if nothing but the host knows about this subnet. -- Les Mikesell

Re: Make a DHCP server using Fedora - Help

2008-11-19 Thread Les Mikesell
dhcp-serving interface there. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Make a DHCP server using Fedora - Help

2008-11-19 Thread Les Mikesell
Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Wed, 11/19/08, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Make a DHCP server using Fedora - Help To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date

Re: set up NAT (network address translation) on local server

2008-11-19 Thread Les Mikesell
] ~]# cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# Try modprobe iptable_nat iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE and make sure the host itself can ping the targets you are trying. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com

Re: any drawbacks to 64-bit versus 32-bit install?

2008-11-18 Thread Les Mikesell
codec which leaves you pretty much in the same shape as needing flash. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate

Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
a compressed disk image. http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/ -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
it, or look up one of the packages that keeps some history, like rdiff-backup. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate

Re: dependency champion?

2008-11-07 Thread Les Mikesell
the functionality required for rendering their language existed already and could be reused, rather than requiring the Pango team to write it themselves. This is how software is *supposed* to work. You mean all optional things are supposed to be linked whether needed at runtime or not? -- Les

Re: freenx 7.3

2008-11-06 Thread Les Mikesell
Roman Makurin wrote: В Втр, 04/11/2008 в 09:46 -0600, Les Mikesell пишет: Does anyone have step-by-step instructions for using freenx 7.3's ability to remotely mirror the console session? I'm trying to do it under Centos but maybe someone here has more experience with it. I can mirror a non

Re: screen + vim + paste - not happy

2008-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
the initial screen draw. If you haven't tried it, it is much more responsive on remote connections than other remote X approaches and cross platform clients are easy to install. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https

freenx 7.3

2008-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
to get a connection to the console session. If I say I want a vnc session I can see mirroring the console as a choice but haven't been able to make it connect. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman

Re: Fedora / RedHat - The problem

2008-11-03 Thread Les Mikesell
of *.rpmnew or *.rpmsave files get logged somewhere? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-11-03 Thread Les Mikesell
, a kernel update would not boot on some common scsi controllers. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate

Re: Fedora / RedHat - The problem

2008-11-03 Thread Les Mikesell
time than anything else. Blame vista for changing interfaces which is what breaks things. Something Microsoft does every decade or so (and maybe they've learned something from it now) and linux continues to do about every month. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Fedora / RedHat - The problem

2008-11-03 Thread Les Mikesell
customers, -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
be supported with interchangeable parts? You aren't talking Ford and Chevy here - it's more like DeLorian and Tesla. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
of that one? It stuck all the new technology available in 1957 into one car. Engineering-wise it was not bad at all, but it was such a flop in acceptance that the name became a joke. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
of bug fixes in the updates to understand why you really don't want to upgrade anything important until after about 6 months after a release. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:21:04 -0600, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: work as a business. The Delorian is best known as the car in the Back to the Futuremovies. Perhaps, but their owner's creative ideas in financing also got them a lot of noteriety

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 21:54 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: Chris Tyler wrote: On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 20:41 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: I would certainly find Fedora more useful if it got security fixes for a year instead of six months. Fedora gets security fixes and updates

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-10-31 Thread Les Mikesell
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: The real problem with this from a user's perspective is that no version of fedora ever 'matures'. That is, you can participate in the process, report bugs, etc., but you never end up with a resulting improved, stable version that is useful for any

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-10-31 Thread Les Mikesell
Claude Jones wrote: On Fri October 31 2008 1:06:10 pm Les Mikesell wrote: The real problem with this from a user's perspective is that no version of fedora ever 'matures'. I have no idea why I'm jumping in to this, Les, but the real problem is that you refuse to accept that some people like

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-10-31 Thread Les Mikesell
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: Are you working simply to improve your computer? I thought the machines were supposed to work for us. Some people like to explore the way machines work, and modify them, rather then just use them. If we didn't have people that like to tinker

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-10-31 Thread Les Mikesell
to change the goals of the rest of us? Basically I'm just wondering out loud where the next server distribution is going to come from. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Dave Ihnat wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:28:22AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: However, there are conceptual differences in system administration so it is somewhat painful to jump back and forth between ubuntu and an RPM based system with redhat-style configuration frequently. True

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Dave Ihnat wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:02:46AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Sure, but there were reasons that SysV, AIX, Solaris, HPUX etc. didn't share the best way do everything. Among opensource builds of essentially the same upstream packages there's less excuse to maintain

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
, it is a project policy and philosophy difference that permits the repositories to be coordinated. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org

Re: OT: find command permissions: how to exclude dir?

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
. (Does anyone else think .gvfs is a PITA?) I usually throw in the -mount option to find on general principles to keep it from walking into isos or nfs mounts that might be in arbitrary places and explicitly list the mount points I want if it has to span them. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL

Re: Ubuntu Ibex offers choice of KDE4.1.2 or KDE3.5.10... and kernel-2.6.27.

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
. When the choice is among free linux distributions, what is the point of making one into something users don't want? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http

Re: Remote Rescue - PXE, SSH, and a remote console?

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
a framebuffer containing a root xterm in the waiting remote vncviewer. But, those options don't work together. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http

Re: X over a reverse SSH tunnel

2008-10-29 Thread Les Mikesell
(or dynamic dns) you can make it connect. If you only need to connect to the tunnel endpoint you can use private addresses for the tunnel and add routing for it on your home side. For more than that you'll need routing set up on both sides or NAT on the tunnel box. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Les Mikesell
the GUIness for when you want to pick a new package or two? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: X over a reverse SSH tunnel

2008-10-28 Thread Les Mikesell
always performs better for me, except perhaps for the initial screen draw and I use it over a local lan, remote cablemodem, and an assortment of slower remote connections. What are the circumstances where vnc works better for you? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing

Re: X over a reverse SSH tunnel

2008-10-28 Thread Les Mikesell
don't check the box under 'advanced' that says 'disable encryption of all traffic' everything should run through its internally set up ssh tunnel (which shouldn't care that it is running through your reverse tunnel_. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora

Re: X over a reverse SSH tunnel

2008-10-26 Thread Les Mikesell
http://www.nomachine.com. You can connect using only port 22 so your firewall probably already permits it and remote performance is much better than vnc. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman

Re: What are your unsatisfied NetworkManager use cases?

2008-10-22 Thread Les Mikesell
the default gateway or the DNS servers that are offered. That is, I just want to be able to reach the addresses on that branch, not route anything through it. Screwing up your default gateway is at least as bad as resolv.conf. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-05 Thread Les Mikesell
it by hand? I thought /etc/mdadm.conf wasn't really necessary anymore - and you said the rescue mode boot worked when it obviously couldn't read it. What happens if you just remove it? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Les Mikesell
, but are the underlying partition types set to FD (raid autodetect). I don't see why they'd work from the rescue boot if they aren't though unless you are assembling them by hand. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Jeffrey Ross wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I extracted the initrd file and looked at the file init. in this file I can see the following (relevant) information.. echo Creating block device nodes. mkblkdevs echo loading raid1 module modprobe -q raid1 Don't you need

Re: howto join lines

2008-10-01 Thread Les Mikesell
a reasonable thing to run in backticks so the shell will do it for you: echo `cat multi_line_file` or echo $(cat multi_line_file`) if you prefer that syntax. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman

Re: [Fwd: Config Network Setting]

2008-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
in your ifcfg-ethX file to force a setting but if the other end of the connection is set to autonegotiate both ends must negotiate - and current equipment usually gets it right. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https

Re: Preventing rsync of copying always all files to my pen

2008-09-27 Thread Les Mikesell
? Rsync will attempt to update the file attributes and display the name if you use -v, but they won't quite match between fat and linux filesystems so it will do it again next time. It shouldn't take much time, though. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Installation of multiple Linux Instances

2008-09-19 Thread Les Mikesell
natively on the host or a different system and let the clients connect remotely. If you need to test the database server side under different OS versions you could try iscsi disk connections instead of vmware images. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list

Re: PDA Calendar sync (was Re: Calendar choice: looking for advice)

2008-09-12 Thread Les Mikesell
outlook sync software will work with it. Is there a free equivalent? Or some other wireless device that works as well as the ipod touch? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-09 Thread Les Mikesell
forwarding relay. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-09 Thread Les Mikesell
of devices, etc. you may find you need more things running just in case. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate

Re: Backup Server RAID Suggestions - Resend

2008-09-08 Thread Les Mikesell
to a new one. Plus, you don't have to worry about matching up with the old controller if you want to move a disk or a set. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http

Re: grandma-rated mail reader

2008-09-08 Thread Les Mikesell
mode (or why the modes are hidden in a second-level pull-down.) There must be something simpler out there. Help. Give thunderbird a try. It looks/works pretty much the same across linux/windows/mac and is all pretty obvious. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: grandma-rated mail reader

2008-09-08 Thread Les Mikesell
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Give thunderbird a try. It looks/works pretty much the same across linux/windows/mac and is all pretty obvious. Thanks, I'll have a look at it. At first glance it still seems to have more bells and whistles than she would

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-08 Thread Les Mikesell
to configure their MUA(s) to speak SMTP directly with an ISP or 3rd party relay, but the preference is more likely due to the nicer fill-in-the-form configuration interface instead of the overall functionality. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-07 Thread Les Mikesell
. Can any key trust scenario where they have to obtain a new key protect against installing modified packages? (i.e. assume that the fake key and packages come from the same place(s) pretending to be the official repositories and mirrors). -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-07 Thread Les Mikesell
can't fool anyone. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-07 Thread Les Mikesell
implicitly trust the delivery mechanism of the RPM packages? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-07 Thread Les Mikesell
a different reason to trust the key than the content it verifies. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-07 Thread Les Mikesell
the same person has to also possess the old signing key. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-06 Thread Les Mikesell
difficult than necessary and should have the same fill-in-the-form GUI that an MUA would have for the same items, but not that the functionality isn't there or isn't needed. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-06 Thread Les Mikesell
that the current state makes it difficult enough to set up that many users don't bother. But I don't think that justifies removing it - and I'd expect more than logwatch to have RPM dependencies on a mail transport. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list

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